Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?

Stefan Hummelink

Hi All,

As is quite familiar by know, several users are bothered by a position delay of the cursor/flyer in relation to the actual position the road. I was one of the first users here to confirm (back in spring 2023 or so) that running another GPS app, such as Flitsmeister in parallel to MRA Navigation Next almost completely solves this issue. At the time I was already relieved to find that FM worked a charm and did not look any further.

Since this issue has by now been identified to be caused by the HERE SDK, I've checked whether or not FM is the only app that shows improvements to the position delay.

I would like to ask all users that are familiar with this use, that is: they are still bothered with it, to check whether or not other GPS apps are also effective in signficantly reducing the position delay/lag.

These results may aid Corjan and HERE in finding the root cause.

Phone characteristics:

Brand: OnePlus
Type: OnePlus 6 (ONEPLUS A6003)
OS version: Android 11, OxygenOS 11.1.2.2
OS Build nr: ONEPLUS A6003_22_211125

I checked the following apps:

Flitsmeister: delay gone
Waze: delay gone
TomTom MyDrive: no effect
Google Maps: no effect

On behalf of us all: thanks

Con Hennekens

@Stefan-Hummelink, I thought it made no difference as to which other app you have running, as long as they use the Google location service? I'll gather some info.

Stefan Hummelink

@Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

Google location servic

This on its own would be contradicted by the fact that running GMaps in parallel did nothing at all for the delay on my OP6.

Con Hennekens

@Stefan-Hummelink,

First case is in, my wife

Phone characteristics:

Brand: Oppo
Type: A72 (CPH2067)
OS version: Android 11, ColorOS 11.1

FlitsMeister seems to help, but we have to check again.

Con Hennekens

@Stefan-Hummelink,

Second case in, my son

Phone characteristics:

Brand: Motorola
Type: G73 (XT2237-2)
OS version: Android 13

Flitsmeister active in background does not help.

Con Hennekens

@Stefan-Hummelink,

Third case in, a friend

Phone characteristics:

Brand: Oppo
Type: A5 (CPH1931)
OS version: Android 10, ColorOS7.1

GMaps seems to help a bit, Flitmeister not tried yet.

Con Hennekens

@Stefan-Hummelink, I think the devices chipset could be a big deal for this problem. But that is more difficult to ask for.

Stefan Hummelink

@Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

devices chipset

Indeed, if the HERE dev's think that may be a good to know, they can extract it based on our provided model info :).

Con Hennekens

@Stefan-Hummelink, exactly.

RetiredWingMan

FM is not available in my area, j found that running a Speedometer app in the background fixes the issue.

Samsung Galaxy S20 5G. Android 13 UI 5.1

Stefan Hummelink

@RetiredWingMan Thanks for reporting!

Jörgen

iPhone 12
iOS 17.4.1
MRA 4.1.2 303

No other GPS tool running

No delay

Stefan Hummelink

@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

No delay

Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome ...

M. Schrijver

The GPS receiver is in most cases a part of the phones SOC.

The cause is probably the SOC software together with Here software
You need to build a large database with Phones specs and which has the problem or not. From there Here needs to do some fixes.
Sadly there are to much different phones in use to build a proper database on this forum.

My Input:
I use Android Auto which uses the Goldwings GPS receiver.
This one is most of the time a bit behind. How much?
Mostly 20-50 meters but sometimes up to 200 meters.

Stefan Hummelink

@M-Schrijver said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

You need to build a large database

Haha ya, for sure. This was an initial attempt.

Peter Verweij

Here also on both an iPhone SE 2020 and a Google Pixel 7, there is a significant delay and therefore worthless to start and promote use in our Oldtimer Club.
If there is a solution please do, because this makes all other great solutions within MRA unusable.

Jörgen

@Stefan-Hummelink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

No delay

Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome ...

Ok, ok,

Today with
Oukitel tablet RT3
Android 12,
MRA 4.1.2 V 303
No other GPS tool running
Big delay (20-30m)

With Altimeter App runing in the background

No or acceptable delay.

Stefan Hummelink

@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

No or acceptable delay.

Awesome! This is the kind of information that may be useful for @Corjan-Meijerink to feedback to HERE, or HERE can read this forum thread haha.

Corjan Meijerink

With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update!

Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink
He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone! Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain!

Stefan Hummelink

@Corjan-Meijerink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink

So glad and proud that I was able to contribute to your solution!