Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?
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Hi All,
As is quite familiar by know, several users are bothered by a position delay of the cursor/flyer in relation to the actual position the road. I was one of the first users here to confirm (back in spring 2023 or so) that running another GPS app, such as Flitsmeister in parallel to MRA Navigation Next almost completely solves this issue. At the time I was already relieved to find that FM worked a charm and did not look any further.
Since this issue has by now been identified to be caused by the HERE SDK, I've checked whether or not FM is the only app that shows improvements to the position delay.
I would like to ask all users that are familiar with this use, that is: they are still bothered with it, to check whether or not other GPS apps are also effective in signficantly reducing the position delay/lag.
These results may aid Corjan and HERE in finding the root cause.
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: OnePlus
- Type: OnePlus 6 (ONEPLUS A6003)
- OS version: Android 11, OxygenOS 11.1.2.2
- OS Build nr: ONEPLUS A6003_22_211125
I checked the following apps:
- Flitsmeister: delay gone
- Waze: delay gone
- TomTom MyDrive: no effect
- Google Maps: no effect
On behalf of us all: thanks
@Stefan-Hummelink, I thought it made no difference as to which other app you have running, as long as they use the Google location service? I'll gather some info.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
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@Stefan-Hummelink, I thought it made no difference as to which other app you have running, as long as they use the Google location service? I'll gather some info.
@Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
Google location servic
This on its own would be contradicted by the fact that running GMaps in parallel did nothing at all for the delay on my OP6.
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Hi All,
As is quite familiar by know, several users are bothered by a position delay of the cursor/flyer in relation to the actual position the road. I was one of the first users here to confirm (back in spring 2023 or so) that running another GPS app, such as Flitsmeister in parallel to MRA Navigation Next almost completely solves this issue. At the time I was already relieved to find that FM worked a charm and did not look any further.
Since this issue has by now been identified to be caused by the HERE SDK, I've checked whether or not FM is the only app that shows improvements to the position delay.
I would like to ask all users that are familiar with this use, that is: they are still bothered with it, to check whether or not other GPS apps are also effective in signficantly reducing the position delay/lag.
These results may aid Corjan and HERE in finding the root cause.
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: OnePlus
- Type: OnePlus 6 (ONEPLUS A6003)
- OS version: Android 11, OxygenOS 11.1.2.2
- OS Build nr: ONEPLUS A6003_22_211125
I checked the following apps:
- Flitsmeister: delay gone
- Waze: delay gone
- TomTom MyDrive: no effect
- Google Maps: no effect
On behalf of us all: thanks
First case is in, my wife
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: Oppo
- Type: A72 (CPH2067)
- OS version: Android 11, ColorOS 11.1
FlitsMeister seems to help, but we have to check again.
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Hi All,
As is quite familiar by know, several users are bothered by a position delay of the cursor/flyer in relation to the actual position the road. I was one of the first users here to confirm (back in spring 2023 or so) that running another GPS app, such as Flitsmeister in parallel to MRA Navigation Next almost completely solves this issue. At the time I was already relieved to find that FM worked a charm and did not look any further.
Since this issue has by now been identified to be caused by the HERE SDK, I've checked whether or not FM is the only app that shows improvements to the position delay.
I would like to ask all users that are familiar with this use, that is: they are still bothered with it, to check whether or not other GPS apps are also effective in signficantly reducing the position delay/lag.
These results may aid Corjan and HERE in finding the root cause.
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: OnePlus
- Type: OnePlus 6 (ONEPLUS A6003)
- OS version: Android 11, OxygenOS 11.1.2.2
- OS Build nr: ONEPLUS A6003_22_211125
I checked the following apps:
- Flitsmeister: delay gone
- Waze: delay gone
- TomTom MyDrive: no effect
- Google Maps: no effect
On behalf of us all: thanks
Second case in, my son
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: Motorola
- Type: G73 (XT2237-2)
- OS version: Android 13
Flitsmeister active in background does not help.
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Hi All,
As is quite familiar by know, several users are bothered by a position delay of the cursor/flyer in relation to the actual position the road. I was one of the first users here to confirm (back in spring 2023 or so) that running another GPS app, such as Flitsmeister in parallel to MRA Navigation Next almost completely solves this issue. At the time I was already relieved to find that FM worked a charm and did not look any further.
Since this issue has by now been identified to be caused by the HERE SDK, I've checked whether or not FM is the only app that shows improvements to the position delay.
I would like to ask all users that are familiar with this use, that is: they are still bothered with it, to check whether or not other GPS apps are also effective in signficantly reducing the position delay/lag.
These results may aid Corjan and HERE in finding the root cause.
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: OnePlus
- Type: OnePlus 6 (ONEPLUS A6003)
- OS version: Android 11, OxygenOS 11.1.2.2
- OS Build nr: ONEPLUS A6003_22_211125
I checked the following apps:
- Flitsmeister: delay gone
- Waze: delay gone
- TomTom MyDrive: no effect
- Google Maps: no effect
On behalf of us all: thanks
Third case in, a friend
Phone characteristics:
- Brand: Oppo
- Type: A5 (CPH1931)
- OS version: Android 10, ColorOS7.1
GMaps seems to help a bit, Flitmeister not tried yet.
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@Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
Google location servic
This on its own would be contradicted by the fact that running GMaps in parallel did nothing at all for the delay on my OP6.
@Stefan-Hummelink, I think the devices chipset could be a big deal for this problem. But that is more difficult to ask for.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe
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@Stefan-Hummelink, I think the devices chipset could be a big deal for this problem. But that is more difficult to ask for.
@Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
devices chipset
Indeed, if the HERE dev's think that may be a good to know, they can extract it based on our provided model info :).
Manks bu'j te bange.
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@Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
devices chipset
Indeed, if the HERE dev's think that may be a good to know, they can extract it based on our provided model info :).
@Stefan-Hummelink, exactly.
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FM is not available in my area, j found that running a Speedometer app in the background fixes the issue.
Samsung Galaxy S20 5G. Android 13 UI 5.1
2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.
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FM is not available in my area, j found that running a Speedometer app in the background fixes the issue.
Samsung Galaxy S20 5G. Android 13 UI 5.1
@RetiredWingMan Thanks for reporting!
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iPhone 12
iOS 17.4.1
MRA 4.1.2 303No other GPS tool running
No delay
Hardware
iPhone 12 pro (iOS 26.2.1)
iPad (7.Gen.) 18.7.3
Oukitel RT3 Pro (Andr. 14)
Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
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iPhone 12
iOS 17.4.1
MRA 4.1.2 303No other GPS tool running
No delay
@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
No delay
Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome
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The GPS receiver is in most cases a part of the phones SOC.
The cause is probably the SOC software together with Here software
You need to build a large database with Phones specs and which has the problem or not. From there Here needs to do some fixes.
Sadly there are to much different phones in use to build a proper database on this forum.My Input:
I use Android Auto which uses the Goldwings GPS receiver.
This one is most of the time a bit behind. How much?
Mostly 20-50 meters but sometimes up to 200 meters.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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The GPS receiver is in most cases a part of the phones SOC.
The cause is probably the SOC software together with Here software
You need to build a large database with Phones specs and which has the problem or not. From there Here needs to do some fixes.
Sadly there are to much different phones in use to build a proper database on this forum.My Input:
I use Android Auto which uses the Goldwings GPS receiver.
This one is most of the time a bit behind. How much?
Mostly 20-50 meters but sometimes up to 200 meters.@M-Schrijver said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
You need to build a large database
Haha ya, for sure. This was an initial attempt.
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Here also on both an iPhone SE 2020 and a Google Pixel 7, there is a significant delay and therefore worthless to start and promote use in our Oldtimer Club.
If there is a solution please do, because this makes all other great solutions within MRA unusable. -
@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
No delay
Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome
...@Stefan-Hummelink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
No delay
Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome
...Ok, ok,
Today with
Oukitel tablet RT3
Android 12,
MRA 4.1.2 V 303
No other GPS tool running
Big delay (20-30m)With Altimeter App runing in the background
No or acceptable delay.
Hardware
iPhone 12 pro (iOS 26.2.1)
iPad (7.Gen.) 18.7.3
Oukitel RT3 Pro (Andr. 14)
Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
MRA Workshops in Deutsch sind hier zu finden -
@Stefan-Hummelink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
No delay
Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome
...Ok, ok,
Today with
Oukitel tablet RT3
Android 12,
MRA 4.1.2 V 303
No other GPS tool running
Big delay (20-30m)With Altimeter App runing in the background
No or acceptable delay.
@Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
No or acceptable delay.
Awesome! This is the kind of information that may be useful for @Corjan-Meijerink to feedback to HERE, or HERE can read this forum thread haha.
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With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update!
Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink
He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone!
Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain! -
With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update!
Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink
He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone! Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain!@Corjan-Meijerink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:
Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink
So glad and proud that I was able to contribute to your solution!
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With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update!
Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink
He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone! Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain!@Corjan-Meijerink Great news ! One more step towards a solid reliable app. I plan to stay away from AA and CP for the foreseeable future.
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