@LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down...

@LennyO so it would seem, but if you are aware of it then you can pre-plan. think the lesson for me is, (when riding in group) ensure all have same map version ensure all settings the same compare the routes before riding off might consider all to use offline nav. (I do anyway)

@travellexxie hij staat op online navigatie (offline navigeren staat uit). Ik ga de komende tijd eens kijken hoe ik dit kan optimaliseren. Heb al een paar keer gehad dat ik mezelf vast rijdt tegen de werkzaamheden aan terwijl je een paar km ervoor prima had kunnen omrijden (navigeren).

@Bruno-7, Bij een route werkt er logica mbt het al of niet automatisch overslaan van een routepunt. Je zult dus altijd naar een routepunt herleidt worden (hetzij het gemiste, hetzij een volgend routepunt). Bij tracknavigatie wordt je op een min of meer logisch wijze teruggeleid naar de track. Dat kan ook ergens tussen routepunten in zijn in dat geval. Dat lijkt gunstig, maar is het zeker niet altijd. Mede omdat sommige gebruikers dit vergelijken met hoe een zumo of tomtom werkt. De MRA app heeft helaas geen "track awareness", dus die blijft je soms wat langer terugsturen naar een punt waar je niet meer naartoe wilt, ook al zit je weer op de track. Om echt verschil te ervaren, moet je het gewoon proberen denk ik

Offline navigation is off

@M.-Schrijver not only Skoda, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Volkswagen and Toyota also. Audi BMW and Mercedes are owners of HERE.

A few weeks ago I rode a route that I have done many times. on this occasion the NN did exactly as you describe here. tried to send me off and back on the motorway at almost every junction. I had 1 start point 400m away from my house and the next shaping point was located at the end of the motorway section. I did not need anymore as I know the route, it was a means of getting to the twisty toads and these two points were circa 50miles (80KM) apart. only reason I had the two initial points was to give me a rough arrival time. route as track I sent the log files to the devs, did not get an explanation, which I wasn't really looking for, the answer I received was, they would use the findings from the log files to help with updates. which was my intention when I sent the log files. curiouser and curiouser

We take all feedback serious but please, create a support ticket. Then we have an official way to communicate. Obviously audio is critical.

Allen bedankt voor de diverse zienswijze op mijn vraagstuk. Laat de ontwikkelaars adhv onze opmerkingen maar iets van maken (of niet).

Danke für den Link, Jörgen. Den Beitrag von Corjan kannte ich noch nicht, werde ihn jetzt "beobachten". .....und hoffe, dass das Problem bis zum Beginn meiner Bulgarien-Tour am 16.8. erledigt ist...

@Brian-McG, what issues. Explanation of how things works is hardly an issue. Not adhering to them could be an issue though

A little kick. I am in de proces of buying a different bike. This means also buying a different navigation device. The Caretta is one of the options on my shortlist. What is the current situation of MRA of the Caretta. Is it just as reliable as MRA on other devices or has the combination Caretta and MRA still some quirks.

@M.-Schrijver heel fijn!

Is there any progress or solution available? 2 weeks ago I got a response to my ticket in the support section that a new version will be available in a week. So another week went by, my ticket was closed and the problem still persists. Any chance to downgrade to 5.0 on IOS?

Ich würde kaufen, aber kein Abo nehmen. Ich brauche das zu wenig, deswegen warte ich auf ein Angebot. Das kriege ich, dauernd, aber nur für das Abo und nicht für Lifetime

@Mike-wiruth, I think you enabled some messy track to be visible on the map? Try this: On your phone, in the main map, press the map-style button. [image: 1785138114820-a010dd02-e51d-44ad-bc59-e3caa487c7a2-image.jpeg] Then tap the second menu option: "Routes visible on map" [image: 1785138183124-c36bc9cb-48ae-4d30-b144-351ba252e19b-image.jpeg] If any routes are listed here, delete them by the X on the right Or click the bin symbol to delete them all at once. [image: 1785138310954-8c62710a-5ac2-47a8-9601-1687bea86bb9-image.jpeg]

@Pierre-c would you possibly be able to share a route where you consistently get the added time & could you check if the distance is the same at the start of the navigation as is calculated on the web planner? I agree with what @nick-carthew is saying & this is how things should work MRA does behave as such most of the time but occasionally it has glitches or edge cases so it would be good/helpful if someone could check your route