There really is not as much confusion as it seems. Why would anyone think an app that DOES NOT carry Navigation in the name has anything to do with navigation, While MRA Navigation always has been the navigation app? There has always been MRA (as short for myroute-app) as a route planner in two versions. One for the web and one for mobile use. It's really not that hard.

And that Next comes after the first is also no brainbreaker. What comes after Next is a surprise for now and not really a concern.

I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

I did not find this a boring story!

Nice to see the team growing, but please always remember the small roots you came from. It is a pleasure doing business with a small company that takes customer comments seriously. For me personally that is a VERY big benefit over the big names in Navigationland. And it is also the reason I take effort in commenting and replying to questions on this forum. I try to be an ambassador for MRA, but do not need the forum-title. I don't want it to become an obligation

It is really amazing to see how much MRA and Navigation have matured in such a short time! Congrats on that!

@Joseph-D-Livingood

• Open your route
• Click "Save as"
• Choose .pdf as filetype
• Click "Save"
• Enjoy!

There was a thread on this issue some time ago.
Routes that are opened once, are kept in memory for an unconfirmed time. I (on Android) am still able to load and navigatie some of the routes I opened back in september without issues. When I go on vacation and load all day-routes once on wifi before I leave, I am able to navigate all those routes without ever connecting to internet on my vacation address. Just make sure to download the needed maps off-line, and place your app in offline-mode. It would be nice if this forum would be kept clean from all untrue statements...

I think it is pretty clear that the error occurs because of unequal routing settings between MRA an Navigation. That is quite logical to happen. Instead of trying to fix this the routing way, it might be a good idea to have MRA routes add a settings section that define the routing-settings of a given route. When opening a route (whether in MRA or in Navigation) the routing settings can be set equal to the ones as defined in the route automatically. In other words: the routing settings become part of a route, instead of a stand-alone setting in an App. Acceptable for the "good-ideas-mailbox?

@matt-flaming said in Navigating via MRA Navigation...:

@mark-panarusky said in Navigating via MRA Navigation...:

Is there someway to organize or reorder the routes?

No.

One of the many issues we have with it.

Yes, there is, it is called events. I usually make an event, and add the routes of a multi-day trip to it. In Navigation you open events instead of routes. This way you keep routes that belong to each other nicely together. But of course it would be nice if the folder-structure would equal that of MRA routeplanner. They are working on it (I read somewhere here on the forum).

I know it is not a real substitute for the missing folder structure, but this can come in handy:
If you change the name of a route, and save it without actually changing the name, the route will appear at the top of the list in navigation. This gives you a handle to put the current routes at the top of the list.

As a fact, I found it to be quite handy that the lastly added or changed routes are being put on top, because it is most likely that those are most likely the routes that have my current interest.

@Con-Hennekens said in The Great Suggestion List:

Nice to find myself in the list
The actual suggestion was to "search routes based on X-distance form destantion an originating Y-distance from desired starting point" But I will forgive about the shortened version

May I deposit another one here, for Navigation?

• Expand the on-screen information with current-time, direction or compass, Height, en maybe more. It could be placed on either side of a landscape navigation screen, since more map than really needed is shown when using landscape. Maybe even move speed etc to the same location.

And for MRA?

• Since we have the heightprofile information, it could be used for a "caravan & camper" function. As opposite to the curvy road functions, Caravan and Camper drivers could benefit from leaving out slopes beyond a certain parameter.

To add to myself (all for Navigation):

• it would be excellent to have the "next turn" indicator at the top left show the next waypoint number to which you are navigating too. That keeps track of route progress, and in case of reboots, recalculations (often start at the beginning again) it gives a better idea of to which waypoint to skip (seems an easy one!)
• in addition to the above, it would be great if a single tap on the map would show a 2d overview of the route, and your location in it. That is much easier to zoom into areas that on the standard 3d naviagtion map. It seems odd to have to quit navigation in order to see an overview of the route.
• If there is a need to skip waypoints, it is a real PITA to have to scroll through the waypoints one by one. Why not make the waypoint selectable on the map? It is already clickable, just the button "select this waypoint to skip to" is missing. I can't imagine that to be a difficult change, but if so, a dropbox in which you can select a waypoint would already be a lot of progress. Besides: pressing "close" on a selected waypoint in that view takes you out of the "skip to" function, instead of just out of the selected waypoint details. Probably a bug.
• make the "start navigation from" options a system default option. At the moment of writing it is implemented as a routing-option, and it defaults to "start of the route" each time a route loads. That can't be meant like that

Most of these additions come from some frustration because of the fact that while navigating it frequently starts recalculating (sometimes while taking a wrong turn, sometimes spontaneously) and in some of those cases it start at the beginning of the route instead of the closest waypoint (ahead!). I am not sure why, but I think it has to do with the fact that where normally the remaining time and kilometers are shown, a text shows "calculating" instead for very long and very often. The navigation runs with no problems at that point. I did not have a chance to test, but I think having the system in off-line mode helps against that.

@Nick-Carthew said in Glove friendly buttons.:

We should start a business with @StefanHummelink

Great idea! You do the logistics, Stefan the sewing. I'll do the bookkeeping

@Drabslab said in Feature request: switch off automatic calculation of routes in the web routeapp:

When making a route, each waypoint introduced leads to an automatic recalculation. When seriously changing a (long) route this can be a bt annoying as the system can take quite some time to recalculate and I have to wait in front of the screen until its done;

As a user, I would like to be able to stop automatic recalculation to change many points (or their order in the route) , or to combine several exiting routes and delete all the unneeded parts of that combination, and only have it calculated once when I switch calculation back on.

@Terry-Cox-0 said in Feature request: switch off automatic calculation of routes in the web routeapp:

@Drabslab I think it is a very good suggestion. Doing a large multi day route before splitting off into multiple parts can be very handy for overall route hours or km. The refresh needn't be done every single route point change and must relieve the server of some CPU time too.

Hmm, I see that this can be a problem with large routes and many shapingpoints. However the solution would better not be to disable calculation temporarily, but to limit the recalculations to the shaping-point being created or moved, and the previous and next shaping point. That would eliminate A LOT of calculation, make every change a snap. Earlier and latter shaping points are not impacted by this recalculation anyway...

@Matt-Flaming said in Reverse Route:

Because I was hoping to get the all-inclusive, all-encompassing software solution that is printed on the box...the one that advertises MRA Planner and MRA Nav as a complete alternative to Garmin/TomTom...

I mean, I paid for it, it seems like I should be able to use it.

I still see no exaggeration in that marketing. Concerning car and motor navigation that is, about walking and cycling some things can be said... I have a Garmin and all software that goes with it, I haven't touched it in three years. I think that when you embrace the whatever quirks you see in MRA, like you obviously have embraced the quirks of other routeplanners, you can be quite satisfied with MRA. MRA has proven to listen to customers pretty good and no, not all of my input has been developed either. It is not so nice to keep attacking them about it, as if your ideas are more important then others.

There really is not as much confusion as it seems. Why would anyone think an app that DOES NOT carry Navigation in the name has anything to do with navigation, While MRA Navigation always has been the navigation app? There has always been MRA (as short for myroute-app) as a route planner in two versions. One for the web and one for mobile use. It's really not that hard.

And that Next comes after the first is also no brainbreaker. What comes after Next is a surprise for now and not really a concern.

I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

@hans-van-de-ven-mra-master said in route voor motoren verboden:

@con-hennekens

Con daarom even de poi bestanden uploaden en je kunt er met plannen van routes rekening mee houden en een ander weg kiezen

Dat moet ik inderdaad nog eens doen ja. Maar wat ik vooral bedoel is dat mensen onwetend routes van anderen downloaden (dat is toch ook het doel van een sociaal platform als MRA) en dan onderweg geconfronteerd worden met dat hele geneul. Ik neem aan dat de Expert-Routes ook niet allemaal aangepast worden om daar weg te blijven. Dan kun je wel aan de gang blijven. Bovendien zou dat ook niet goed zijn omdat door de week die beperking dan weer niet geldt. Dat bedoel ik dus met: je kunt geen rekening houden met wanneer mensen jouw route gaan rijden. Maar we dwalen af

Dat is precies waarom die hele weekendsluitingen en dergelijke volslagen walgelijk zijn. Daar is gewoon géén rekening mee te houden. Als nietsvermoedende motorrijder rijdt je vaak voor gedefinieerde routes. Sta je ineens met een groep bij zo'n wegafsluiting. Omweg zoeken of doorrijden? Effe kijken... Inmiddels zijn een aantal al een peuk aan het opsteken, je bent zo wéér een half uur verder zonder iets op te schieten.

I was ready to say it works for Android also. But it doesn't. No matter in what format I save the gpx, after opening it Sygic it calculates the fastest way from startpoint to endoint, and no shaping points are visible.

Isn't it so that an exhaust needs to be homologated in Germany for the specific bike? Having no proof of that (a certificate) is enough reason for a ticket from the police, and maybe even a walk home. Even if you do not exceed the noise limits.

@herko-ter-horst said in Navigation Folder list ?:

It's definitely 'fixed', the previous behaviour was quite annoying and counter-intuitive: just having a look at a route (even accidentally) shouldn't change anything.

Well, I have a habit of looking at routes I intend to ride, so for me it was quite convenient.

@herko-ter-horst said in Navigation Folder list ?:

@con-hennekens ...Of course this is all a work-around for the single list of all routes that we have to deal with.

It certainly is!

@herko-ter-horst said in Navigation Folder list ?:

@con-hennekens Actually, that behaviour (the modification date updating when nothing has been modified) has been fixed. You can still trigger it to update by actually changing something in the route.

Do we call that fixed or broken?
I see indeed. Easiest to make a change is to click on the pencil behind the route and click "save" or whatever that is in the English version. You don't actually have to change anything this way, and don't have to open the route.

@martin-garand, If you "touch" the routes you think you will use the coming days (by opening them in MRA and closing them again) they will move UP to the top of the list in MRA Navigation.

@herko-ter-horst, Ze hoeven alleen maar te zorgen dat de bron van het kaartmateriaal voor de planner identiek is aan die van Navigation. Het is een taak van de gebruiker om zijn offline kaarten up to date te houden. Das eigenlijk geen verschil met welke andere dedicated nav-unit dan ook.

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