I surely hope that my 2 main frustrations will be addressed:

• Selecting the waypoint to skip to is an inhumanitary task. Make the waypoint selectable from the screen instead of having to next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, until WP 88 or so...

• The option "start from nearest waypoint" does not stick. after loading a route, or restarting the app it defaults back to "start from beginning". This should be a systemwide option that sticks to what you tell it to do.

There really is not as much confusion as it seems. Why would anyone think an app that DOES NOT carry Navigation in the name has anything to do with navigation, While MRA Navigation always has been the navigation app? There has always been MRA (as short for myroute-app) as a route planner in two versions. One for the web and one for mobile use. It's really not that hard.

And that Next comes after the first is also no brainbreaker. What comes after Next is a surprise for now and not really a concern.

I think it's the people calling everything MRA (while it is not) are causing there own confusion.

@Tim-Thompson, I see a lot of "looking at Scenic" comments from you. I Think Scenic is a great Navigation tool, and MRA can indeed learn a lot from it. But If you think Scenic is such a great app, there is nothing holding you back from using that one. I don't feel the need for MRA to resemble Scenic that much. Like these colors, it is important not to have as many indistinguishable colors, but as less as needed contrastful colors.

I did not find this a boring story!

Nice to see the team growing, but please always remember the small roots you came from. It is a pleasure doing business with a small company that takes customer comments seriously. For me personally that is a VERY big benefit over the big names in Navigationland. And it is also the reason I take effort in commenting and replying to questions on this forum. I try to be an ambassador for MRA, but do not need the forum-title. I don't want it to become an obligation

It is really amazing to see how much MRA and Navigation have matured in such a short time! Congrats on that!

I think if maps become choosable in Navigation, it will add more issues for people with routes not being equal due to settings within the app. It will add complexity we don't want.

There was a thread on this issue some time ago.
Routes that are opened once, are kept in memory for an unconfirmed time. I (on Android) am still able to load and navigatie some of the routes I opened back in september without issues. When I go on vacation and load all day-routes once on wifi before I leave, I am able to navigate all those routes without ever connecting to internet on my vacation address. Just make sure to download the needed maps off-line, and place your app in offline-mode. It would be nice if this forum would be kept clean from all untrue statements...

@Stanisław said in Suggestion: Mark routes for visibility in Navigation (Next):

... but in paralell with whole directory structure available for browsing

This is asked for SOOO many times, that I cannot imagine it not being implemented

@matt-flaming said in Navigating via MRA Navigation...:

@mark-panarusky said in Navigating via MRA Navigation...:

Is there someway to organize or reorder the routes?

No.

One of the many issues we have with it.

Yes, there is, it is called events. I usually make an event, and add the routes of a multi-day trip to it. In Navigation you open events instead of routes. This way you keep routes that belong to each other nicely together. But of course it would be nice if the folder-structure would equal that of MRA routeplanner. They are working on it (I read somewhere here on the forum).

I know it is not a real substitute for the missing folder structure, but this can come in handy:
If you change the name of a route, and save it without actually changing the name, the route will appear at the top of the list in navigation. This gives you a handle to put the current routes at the top of the list.

As a fact, I found it to be quite handy that the lastly added or changed routes are being put on top, because it is most likely that those are most likely the routes that have my current interest.

@Timo-Martosatiman-MRA said in [MRA Navigation Next first video!]

• Examples of who does what right like @Herko-ter-Horst , providing TomTom Go as an example (including what we do better

I have no screenshot like Herko, but what I realy liked about my Zumo are the configurable datafields. As a fact, my suggestion to place all datafields at one side of the screen comes from there. If I remember correctly the Zumo offers 6 datafields that can filled in as wished with about 12 options like Speed, Time, Time to destination, Time to next guidance, and some other. One of them I really appreciated was Height (from GPS data), always nice when riding twisties in mountain areas.

I really like the idea of a tap to hide all that!

EDIT: actualy I do have a screenshot, just not my own

Of course I do not want to have that same look, but the user definable dashboards are certainly a nice gimmick.

@Joseph-D-Livingood

• Open your route
• Click "Save as"
• Choose .pdf as filetype
• Click "Save"
• Enjoy!

@Rob-Verhoeff, MRA itself is calling out for suggestions. So we will see at least SOMETHING of them in the endproduct.

@Jack-van-Tilburg said in MRA Navigation Next first video!:

Oh yes. I also regularly operate my navi while riding.

No one is more pious than the Pope

The idea of the smaller buttons for me was not to discourage people that use them in traffic. I understand your opinion, but on the other hand I am afraid that even with smaller buttons they will try and and that will attract even more attention off the road.

It would be an idea to have the buttons appear only when the speed is zero. But I think a lot of people who "can't even skip a waypoint" while riding will be mad about that. I am probably one of those people that really try to be responsible, but would not like that to be enforced.

@Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder, ik kan er helaas niet bij zijn, maar de uitkomsten komen vast wel voorbij hier!

@Rik-Grimbergen, As far as I remember this has always been selected automatically based on the route itself.

I don't mean to dismiss an idea, but for me the "realism" of a map that resembles the actual course of the road is much much preferred to the abstractness of signs that do not resemble the road.

But maybe there is a usefulness to this I didn't think of. Off-road routes maybe?

I'd like to add that more and more people are using bigger screens, some even use tablets. Dedicated Navigation devices used to be 3,5 or 4 inch, with a resolution of twice nothing. That "rule" only got broken by the most recent XT. Modern phones and rugged phones ar hard to find below 6" these days, and offer much much higher resolutions. I think the need for exorbitant large buttons, fonts and icons is much less than in the early days. They can be made a bit smaller I think, in favor of a larger map.

@Steve-Lynch said in MRA Navigation Next first video!:

I disagree that the Bike Location Icon should be moved up.
As someone who is only ever going to use Portrait mode, I would want to see as much of the road ahead as possible,

Of course I agree with that. But moving data fields down and location icon slightly up might just achieve that. Just to prevent datafields from obscuring the map.

@Drabslab, Oh, so now you are running away with my idea... (just joking)
I agree with @Timo-Martosatiman-MRA that only relevant info should be displayed. Problem is everyone has different ideas about relevance. Thats where user-configurability comes in. The on/off switching of data fields should above all be easy. We don't want to turn Navigation into some geek-thing like a Zumo

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master, yes I know, twenty is a bit much. But speed is already on your dashboard (although een logican datfield to be shown). Nice info is Arrival time, Arrival distance, distance to next guidance (if you are going straight on a long road it is nice to know in advance so you can get into cruise mode ), Height is an item I very much like, Distance to next waypoint (not shaping point). I think I am forgetting some useful options here

@Timo-Martosatiman-MRA said in [MRA Navigation Next first video!]

• Examples of who does what right like @Herko-ter-Horst , providing TomTom Go as an example (including what we do better

I have no screenshot like Herko, but what I realy liked about my Zumo are the configurable datafields. As a fact, my suggestion to place all datafields at one side of the screen comes from there. If I remember correctly the Zumo offers 6 datafields that can filled in as wished with about 12 options like Speed, Time, Time to destination, Time to next guidance, and some other. One of them I really appreciated was Height (from GPS data), always nice when riding twisties in mountain areas.

I really like the idea of a tap to hide all that!

EDIT: actualy I do have a screenshot, just not my own

Of course I do not want to have that same look, but the user definable dashboards are certainly a nice gimmick.