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  • Baltusundefined Baltus

    Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
    I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
    Best regards, Baltus.

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    RouteXpert
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    @Baltus
    Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

    Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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    • Baltusundefined Baltus

      Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
      I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
      Best regards, Baltus.

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      wrote on last edited by Steve Lynch
      #15

      @Baltus

      I am no Cyclist as I have skinny chicken legs, but in theory it would be possible to do this with MyRoute-App Mobile which is free.

      You would not get turn by turn notifications but a route-track to visually follow.

      In the screenshot below I have presumed that Purple is a Cycle Route on Wimbledon Common. (I may be wrong but it makes no difference, as you will know the Legend for cycles routes.)

      Create the Waypoints on the OpenCycleMap Overlay.

      86F3F60F-65FB-459C-B9D6-CEED1765E210.jpeg

      Then save the file to your Computer/Mobile as gpx 1.0 (route, track, POI).
      Then import the gpx file as a route-track.

      2BECBD84-2F88-40A6-928A-44D206ED0C55.jpeg

      Then open the route on your mobile phone in the new MyRoute-App Mobile.

      167AFD3B-AFA8-4711-9CAB-49300D714150.jpeg

      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

        @Baltus
        Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

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        Con Hennekens
        Alpha tester
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        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

        @Baltus
        Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

        Where there is a will, there is a way πŸ˜‰
        I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

          @Baltus
          Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

          Where there is a will, there is a way πŸ˜‰
          I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

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          Nick Carthew
          RouteXpert
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          @Con-Hennekens said in Other standard map:

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

          @Baltus
          Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

          Where there is a will, there is a way πŸ˜‰
          I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

          The MRA Mobile app is perfect for navigating because of the OSM Cycling map.

          AD106778-8A50-4314-8341-E06DAF7F0E8E.png

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

            @Con-Hennekens said in Other standard map:

            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

            @Baltus
            Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

            Where there is a will, there is a way πŸ˜‰
            I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

            The MRA Mobile app is perfect for navigating because of the OSM Cycling map.

            AD106778-8A50-4314-8341-E06DAF7F0E8E.png

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            Baltus
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            @Nick-Carthew
            Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

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            • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

              @Baltus
              Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

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              #19

              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
              Hi Hans, thank you for your reply. Unforetunately it is not an answer on my question.
              My question was not "If" but "when" will it be possible to make use of OSM maps in the Navigation-app.
              I had already a liftime membership on MRA. So I knew already how to make routes for my motortours and how to make biketours.
              For my motortours i use my Garmin GPS. But i had no device to ride my bike tours. Later on, when the Navigation-app was introduced, there was mentioned that you do not need a gps device anymore. Simply use your phone or a ruggedized tablet.
              But no warning about a ristriction for only Here maps. Also nowedays there is no warning. I think it is a missed opportunity if it stays so.
              I think there are enough cyclists to make a special effort for that group
              So Hans, please an answer on my question πŸ™‚

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              • Baltusundefined Baltus

                @Nick-Carthew
                Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

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                Nick Carthew
                RouteXpert
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                @Baltus said in Other standard map:

                @Nick-Carthew
                Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

                The MRA Mobile app does have a navigation function and is perfect for cycling. Design a route on the OSM planning map (use the OpenCyclemap overlay) and choose cycling as the form of transport. Then open that route in the MRA Mobile app and click the arrow in the bottom right of the screen twice, you will see that the position cursor changes to a blue arrow, you are now in navigation mode. Navigation is only follow the line with no spoken instructions but it does have auto zoom that changes the zoom level with speed.

                C5562DF6-E0CC-4A2E-9B0B-825D583E43B7.jpeg

                Always willing to help if I can.
                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                  @Baltus said in Other standard map:

                  @Nick-Carthew
                  Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

                  The MRA Mobile app does have a navigation function and is perfect for cycling. Design a route on the OSM planning map (use the OpenCyclemap overlay) and choose cycling as the form of transport. Then open that route in the MRA Mobile app and click the arrow in the bottom right of the screen twice, you will see that the position cursor changes to a blue arrow, you are now in navigation mode. Navigation is only follow the line with no spoken instructions but it does have auto zoom that changes the zoom level with speed.

                  C5562DF6-E0CC-4A2E-9B0B-825D583E43B7.jpeg

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                  @Nick-Carthew
                  Nick, this is an eyeopener for me. I found the MRA mobile app not useful. Most of the time i have my laptop with me. So if i want to make or adjust a route that is the thing i use.
                  The only question i have now is: How much mobile data wil it cost if i navigate this way. I can not make use of offline maps nor a downloaded route. Do you have any idea. If Not, I simply give it a try.
                  Baltus.

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                  • Baltusundefined Baltus

                    @Nick-Carthew
                    Nick, this is an eyeopener for me. I found the MRA mobile app not useful. Most of the time i have my laptop with me. So if i want to make or adjust a route that is the thing i use.
                    The only question i have now is: How much mobile data wil it cost if i navigate this way. I can not make use of offline maps nor a downloaded route. Do you have any idea. If Not, I simply give it a try.
                    Baltus.

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                    Nick Carthew
                    RouteXpert
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @Baltus said in Other standard map:

                    @Nick-Carthew
                    Nick, this is an eyeopener for me. I found the MRA mobile app not useful. Most of the time i have my laptop with me. So if i want to make or adjust a route that is the thing i use.
                    The only question i have now is: How much mobile data wil it cost if i navigate this way. I can not make use of offline maps nor a downloaded route. Do you have any idea. If Not, I simply give it a try.
                    Baltus.

                    I don’t have an exact answer but I would think that mobile data usage will be minimal. Give it a try, I’m sure that you will be pleasantly surprised.

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                    • Baltusundefined Baltus

                      Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
                      I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
                      Best regards, Baltus.

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                      @Baltus I suggest you give it a try to use OsmAnd as your bike navigation app. Construct your routes in the OSM map with MRA, and load them up in the OsmAnd app. I've never used it to navigate myself, but I know there is a bike mode, and you can upload your tracks in it. Should it be said, it works (only ?) with OSM card material. And it looks finished, I can tell...

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                        @John-Roberts, I am in no way affiliated to MyRouteApp and have no video's whatsoever. But I am willing to try to help. But that is difficult if you don't tell what satnav we are talking about, do not link your route and share no screenshots. But if your device acknowledges new data, and then cannot find it, the problem lies most likely within your device.

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                          @John-Roberts said in Other standard map:

                          Hello Con-Hennekens
                          I can create a route on myrouteapp with no problem, but when I transfer it in the standard way exactly as demonstrated by your video, my satnav acknowledges it has received "new data" but when I select ok, the satnav then advises "no data found".
                          I have created over the years several routes, but just lately it is not transferring to my Garmin?
                          Have you had other users with the same problem?
                          Can you advise how I can resolve this please?

                          Hi John,
                          Some questions and suggestions:
                          Which Zumo do you have?
                          Is your ZUMO upToDate, maps and software.
                          Do you have the latest version of the connector? (Windows 49.msi & Mac 24.pkg)
                          Which file are you transferring? (gpx.....)
                          Share your route, so we can see if it might be the route.

                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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