@james-blythe My motorcycle friend has a TomTom, and I have a Garmin. The way we enter the (shared) routes in our device(s), is to import the track into the device, not the route. Doing it this way already several years now, we have hardly ever had differences. Indeed, differences mostly (only) occur when on one of both devices doesn't have a navigable road where the other one does have one.

This way of working (i.e. using the track rather than the original route) is less labour-intensive than the one explained above by Hans above (and I may be wrong, but I think there's a smaller chance of resulting into different routes). On the other hand, it has one disadvantage which may be your show-stopper : you lose the POI's of your original route(s). If you want to have the POI's available in the routes, you have to do it the way Hans explains.

But irrespective of the way you put the route(s) in your devices : to me, riding the same route with a TomTom and a Garmin together is combining the best of the 2 worlds, we hardly ever have problems finding a way around any event on our route (like deviations, road works, or the likes).

@marc-31 Is die Garmin Camper 660 in enige zin (type-)gerelateerd aan de Garmin Zümo660 ? Ik dacht weliswaar ook in eerste instantie dat het gebruiken van een track de oplossing was (de Zümo660 bijvoorbeeld kon inderdaad overweg met tracks als ik het mij nog goed herinner). Maar als herberekenen niét uit kan worden gezet, zal mijns inziens de eerste de beste afwijking van de route als gevolg kunnen hebben dat hij jou "volgens de logica van de Garmin Camper660" naar het eindpunt zal brengen. Ik durf niet méér te zeggen, want ieder GPS-type durft daarop anders te reageren, zelfs tussen types binnen hetzelfde merk (want bijvoorbeeld de Garmin Zümo660 en de Zümo595 reageren wezenlijk anders op afwijkingen van een ingestelde route).

@mick-k said in Circular Routes:

@jack-van-tilburg That’s a good tip, thanks. I’m planning a 2500 mile tour in June so have just adjusted all the start points to 50 yards from the actual start point so I will definitely drive through them.

You might be wrong. On holidays, it regularly (in my case anyway) occurs that your bike is inside an undergound garage where there's not any satellite coverage at all. If you know your route, and depart in the right direction, you may very well have passed your route's first point already, just to find out, 500 meters down your route, that your GPS knows where it is : 450 meters behind you...

@Nick-Carthew-RouteXpert Then why not make it a user-selectable checkbox, for these users, in these cases, who want to see them anyway (switched off by default) ? (just a suggestion)

When would it become possible to export routes on Linux computers ? So far, I don't use MRA's export because I work with Linux. It can't be too hard, can it ? To say more, I'd willing to help develop this, for free, in my spare time (language of preference being Java).

(gelieve mijn reactie te lezen in de wetenschap dat ik jouw reactie van hierboven nog niet had gelezen, @marc-31)

@StefanHummelink Ik heb de scriptjes hier gebruiksklaar liggen als je dat wil (configureerbaar met omgevingsvariabelen), voor Windows op Cygwin weliswaar. Moeten met niet te heel veel moeite naar Linux converteerbaar zijn (naar "echte" Windows daarentegen is andere koek - Windows en scripting is niet de beste combinatie voor mijn kunde).

edit : ah neen, die scriptjes staan ook in de beschrijving van dat filmpje...

@linda-wouters I wouldn't especially state that you'd need more route points. However, if you have less of them, you might end up in obtaining (at times significantly) different routes if loading the same route into 2 different devices. I suggest you compare while still being at home, between the 2 devices, the routes once they have been uploaded to avoid (at times significantly) different routes in both devices (or work with tracks instead). In this regard, you may want to have a look at a recent topic : https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/2039/shared-routes-different-devices/6

P.S. Hint : if you see, in your next Eifel/Schwarzwald trip, a panel pointing to "Paris", you should consider yourself lost.

@StefanHummelink In Windows zul je dan beter Cygwin installeren om die bash- scriptjes aan de praat te krijgen. Ik heb wel een globaal scriptje dat de 4 acties in 1 keer uitvoert (OSM binnenhalen, de radars eruit halen in een .osm bestand, de oude .gpx hernoemen om tenslotte de nieuwe .gpx -"radars.gpx" - aan te maken). Als je een manier ziet om ze bij jou te krijgen, mag je dat scriptje best hebben, hoor. Als met dat script alles goed werkt, is de klus op een kleine 2 uur geklaard zonder manuele interventie (het downloaden en vervolgens het extraheren van de radars zijn beide nogal lange klussen, telkens ong. drie kwartier)...

@StefanHummelink Dat is een optie, inderdaad. Dan zou ik in jouw geval wel ook nog eens goed testen of je geen dubbele radars bekomt (in overlappende grensgebieden, namelijk). En in dat geval : of jouw GPS er goed op reageert. Iets zegt mij dat ik ooit eens zag vernoemd worden dat zijn GPS erop crashte. Dus toch nuttig om te testen, beter dan een trip plannen en dan jouw GPS zien crashen op de eerste radar die je op jouw route tegenkomt...

@jack-van-tilburg said in New MRA Mobile app:

@sudolea said in New MRA Mobile app:

Is it ? Sure ? The topic's title reads "New MRA Mobile App", and you state that it's about MRA Planner ?

Yes I am sure.
I just didn't know that I had to use the term "mobile" again for clarity.
As you say yourself:

The topic's title reads "New MRA Mobile App".

You just proved my point

@ronald-weaver I am confused at times, too. But to control the volume of the mp3's being played, there's only 2 settings. One is on the GPS, the other one on the headset...

The setting on the GPS is the "Media volume". That's a percentage of the main/maximum volume. If that one is, e.g., at 10 percent, you may have a problem hearing media loud enough in your headset. Mine is at 70% and I rarely modify it as I prefer songs being played a little less loud than the navigation instructions (which are set at 100%).

The setting on the headset itself is the one I myself use most. You can modify the volume (of all sounds coming from the GPS) louder and quiter there.

Note that I'm talking of the Zümo595, but I don't think it's any different on the 396...

@jack-van-tilburg said in New MRA Mobile app:

@ruud-schouten
It concerns the MyRouteApp Planner.
It is not about MyRouteApp Navigation that functions on Apple Car play.

Is it ? Sure ? The topic's title reads "New MRA Mobile App", and you state that it's about MRA Planner ?

How cynical that I, as a MyRoute-app user don't have any idea anymore if this will be applicable to me now. There have been so many marketing terms shouted around lately that I'm lost in the meantime...

There's MRA Mobile App, MyRouteApp Planner - whereas my current screen names the same thing "MyRoute-app" - see screenshot And there's also the used term "MRA Navigation". In short : you name it, you have it.

@nick-carthew So will the route planner now be changed (again) ? This is what I understand from @jack-van-tilburg 's reaction...

There was a topic recently asking for clarification of the different products and licenses, and it shows again that the current names aren't clear (enough).

I don't think that Zümo players can handle music streams with very high a bitrate. I wouldn't play the best quality MP3's, as these have caused problems to mine in the past (I'm now speaking of an older Zümo660). Even nowadays, I keep on using smaller bitrates in my newer Zümo595 as my "best practice".

Also note that the SD card can just as well be the cause of your current issue...

I think the suggestion of some matrix-like explanation makes sense. It is a dire sign if this licensing/product model needs explanation in this forum, in my humble opinion.

@herko-ter-horst said in Time Zones:

I'm not sure it makes sense to put this into your route. Durations do not have timezones.
...
The fact that your watch should be adjusted when crossing into a different time zone, doesn't influence the duration of the trip.

Don't you think the poster has his reason to ask this ? I think he is better placed to judge how much sense this makes according to his way of working (he wouldn't have asked his question otherwise, would he). On the other hand, just saying : if you take the ferry from the continent to the UK, the duration stays the same too, regardless of the timezone you cross. Yet, the ferry operator times are mentioned in local times. If it's not possible in MRA, it's not possible, so be it. But then again, I wouldn't make too much assumptions in his place...

@george-muller Sounds like this could help you out better :
https://www.optaplanner.org/learn/useCases/vehicleRoutingProblem.html

@jan-thijssen Jan, als ik jou vraag goed begreep, vrees ik dat bovenstaand antwoord jou op het verkeerde been zou kunnen zetten. Want de navigatie-stembegeleiding moeten in jouw GPS worden aangezet, daar komt MRA niet in tussen, dit is een instelling in jouw GPS zélf. Dat vereist, uiteraard, een (meestal bluetooth) connectie tussen jouw GPS en jouw helmsysteem.

@inge-bakermans True indeed, if you're on the road already (as I seem to understyand now). Moreover, you support the open source project. But it was a challenge to me to try it out, nothing more...

Triggered by the question (and the OSMAnd answer), I downloaded OSMAnd and tried it out, as I didn't know it. There are 7 free downloads coming with it, and I downloaded Flanders, then 2 Austrian regions. I was impressed by the detailed information on these offline maps, and I'll definitely use it in the next holiday's family hikes in Austria... So as a test, I tried to generate the Luxemburg data myself and tried to get it on my phone. Worked OK !

So then I successfully generated Iran too, but as this was a file of 600+MB, I didn't try it on my phone. But it can be generated indeed using OsmAndMapCreator. The steps :

• download the Iran .osm.pbf data file from geofabrik.de
• download OsmAndMapCreator
• create the map with OsmAndCreator :
  ° start it
  ° File -> Create .obf from .osm
  ° select the Iran .osm.pbf file, and
  ° press OK.
• after some time, you should obtain the Iran .obf file

Of course, do this at your own risk : I don't want you to get lost in Iran in the foreseeable future