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  • John Robertsundefined John Roberts

    Good evening, having created a new route today on MRA I note that you now use Openstreetmap. I tried to download the map as usual to my Garmin sat nav but it would not download?
    Can you please advise is this due to your new map source, if so what do I need to do to download my latest route?

    Regards
    John Roberts

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    @John-Roberts said in Other standard map:

    I tried to download the map as usual

    I assume you mean "route" here, instead om "map". I cannot think of the download of a gpx to be dependent on the chosen map, especially since the OpenStreetMap was present already. Can you show a screenshot of what goes wrong exactly?

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @John-Roberts said in Other standard map:

      I tried to download the map as usual

      I assume you mean "route" here, instead om "map". I cannot think of the download of a gpx to be dependent on the chosen map, especially since the OpenStreetMap was present already. Can you show a screenshot of what goes wrong exactly?

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      @Michel van Hagen
      I am very un-happy with this, because now I can get differences between the map that MRA is using and the map that my Zumo XT is using.
      It might be better that you resolve your problems with the card supplier as soon as possible, or I am forced to move to another route planner.

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      • Andries Mulderundefined Andries Mulder

        @Michel van Hagen
        I am very un-happy with this, because now I can get differences between the map that MRA is using and the map that my Zumo XT is using.
        It might be better that you resolve your problems with the card supplier as soon as possible, or I am forced to move to another route planner.

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        Jack van Tilburg
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        #7

        @Andries-Mulder
        Your Zumo XT is using de Here map.
        You can select the Here map in the Menu <Default> to use this always for new routes?
        Does that help you?

        Schermafbeelding 2022-07-04 om 16.42.07.png

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        • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

          @Andries-Mulder
          Your Zumo XT is using de Here map.
          You can select the Here map in the Menu <Default> to use this always for new routes?
          Does that help you?

          Schermafbeelding 2022-07-04 om 16.42.07.png

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          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Other standard map:

          Those that help you

          ???

          It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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          • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

            @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Other standard map:

            Those that help you

            ???

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            #9

            @Drabslab said in Other standard map:

            @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Other standard map:

            Those that help you

            ???

            Whaha. Corrected.
            Sorry

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              Andries Mulder
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              #10

              @Jack-van-Tilburg
              It doesn't help me, because thats exactly what is no longer there.
              It has been changed and that whole menu item is gone, so only one map is there now, which is OSM.

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              • Andries Mulderundefined Andries Mulder

                @Jack-van-Tilburg
                It doesn't help me, because thats exactly what is no longer there.
                It has been changed and that whole menu item is gone, so only one map is there now, which is OSM.

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                #11

                @Andries-Mulder
                Wrong. Its there again or it was always there.

                So MRA is very good (again)

                My apologies for my mistake.

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                • Andries Mulderundefined Andries Mulder

                  @Andries-Mulder
                  Wrong. Its there again or it was always there.

                  So MRA is very good (again)

                  My apologies for my mistake.

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                  #12

                  @Andries-Mulder said in Other standard map:

                  @Andries-Mulder
                  Wrong. Its there again or it was always there.

                  So MRA is very good (again)

                  My apologies for my mistake.

                  Now we have written evidence that you make mistakes 😊 😀 😇

                  It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    #13

                    Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
                    I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
                    Best regards, Baltus.

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                    • Baltusundefined Baltus

                      Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
                      I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
                      Best regards, Baltus.

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                      #14

                      @Baltus
                      Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                      • Baltusundefined Baltus

                        Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
                        I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
                        Best regards, Baltus.

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                        #15

                        @Baltus

                        I am no Cyclist as I have skinny chicken legs, but in theory it would be possible to do this with MyRoute-App Mobile which is free.

                        You would not get turn by turn notifications but a route-track to visually follow.

                        In the screenshot below I have presumed that Purple is a Cycle Route on Wimbledon Common. (I may be wrong but it makes no difference, as you will know the Legend for cycles routes.)

                        Create the Waypoints on the OpenCycleMap Overlay.

                        86F3F60F-65FB-459C-B9D6-CEED1765E210.jpeg

                        Then save the file to your Computer/Mobile as gpx 1.0 (route, track, POI).
                        Then import the gpx file as a route-track.

                        2BECBD84-2F88-40A6-928A-44D206ED0C55.jpeg

                        Then open the route on your mobile phone in the new MyRoute-App Mobile.

                        167AFD3B-AFA8-4711-9CAB-49300D714150.jpeg

                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                          @Baltus
                          Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

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                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

                          @Baltus
                          Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

                          Where there is a will, there is a way 😉
                          I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

                            @Baltus
                            Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

                            Where there is a will, there is a way 😉
                            I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

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                            RouteXperts Instructor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @Con-Hennekens said in Other standard map:

                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

                            @Baltus
                            Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

                            Where there is a will, there is a way 😉
                            I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

                            The MRA Mobile app is perfect for navigating because of the OSM Cycling map.

                            AD106778-8A50-4314-8341-E06DAF7F0E8E.png

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                            • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                              @Con-Hennekens said in Other standard map:

                              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Other standard map:

                              @Baltus
                              Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

                              Where there is a will, there is a way 😉
                              I think the cycling community is big enough for a serious effort to be made in this regard. Maybe there is room for a specific cycle Navigation app, that DOES use the OSM map? It would make the MRA ecosystem more complete.

                              The MRA Mobile app is perfect for navigating because of the OSM Cycling map.

                              AD106778-8A50-4314-8341-E06DAF7F0E8E.png

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                              @Nick-Carthew
                              Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

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                              • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                                @Baltus
                                Hi Baltus, no it is not possible. Navigation uses the Here-map.

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                                #19

                                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                                Hi Hans, thank you for your reply. Unforetunately it is not an answer on my question.
                                My question was not "If" but "when" will it be possible to make use of OSM maps in the Navigation-app.
                                I had already a liftime membership on MRA. So I knew already how to make routes for my motortours and how to make biketours.
                                For my motortours i use my Garmin GPS. But i had no device to ride my bike tours. Later on, when the Navigation-app was introduced, there was mentioned that you do not need a gps device anymore. Simply use your phone or a ruggedized tablet.
                                But no warning about a ristriction for only Here maps. Also nowedays there is no warning. I think it is a missed opportunity if it stays so.
                                I think there are enough cyclists to make a special effort for that group
                                So Hans, please an answer on my question 🙂

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                                • Baltusundefined Baltus

                                  @Nick-Carthew
                                  Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

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                                  RouteXperts Instructor
                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @Baltus said in Other standard map:

                                  @Nick-Carthew
                                  Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

                                  The MRA Mobile app does have a navigation function and is perfect for cycling. Design a route on the OSM planning map (use the OpenCyclemap overlay) and choose cycling as the form of transport. Then open that route in the MRA Mobile app and click the arrow in the bottom right of the screen twice, you will see that the position cursor changes to a blue arrow, you are now in navigation mode. Navigation is only follow the line with no spoken instructions but it does have auto zoom that changes the zoom level with speed.

                                  C5562DF6-E0CC-4A2E-9B0B-825D583E43B7.jpeg

                                  Always willing to help if I can.
                                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                  Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                  Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                  TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                    @Baltus said in Other standard map:

                                    @Nick-Carthew
                                    Nick, thanks for your reply. Ofcourse you can make bike routes with the MRA- mobile app. That is the same as MRA on the pc. But you can not use the app to navigate. Therefore you need the navigation app. But...... the navigation app only works with Here maps. If you load your OSM bike route.gpx into the navigation app than it rebuild your complete route, because the Here map does not have bikepaths. The new route sends you to the moon and even further.

                                    The MRA Mobile app does have a navigation function and is perfect for cycling. Design a route on the OSM planning map (use the OpenCyclemap overlay) and choose cycling as the form of transport. Then open that route in the MRA Mobile app and click the arrow in the bottom right of the screen twice, you will see that the position cursor changes to a blue arrow, you are now in navigation mode. Navigation is only follow the line with no spoken instructions but it does have auto zoom that changes the zoom level with speed.

                                    C5562DF6-E0CC-4A2E-9B0B-825D583E43B7.jpeg

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                                    @Nick-Carthew
                                    Nick, this is an eyeopener for me. I found the MRA mobile app not useful. Most of the time i have my laptop with me. So if i want to make or adjust a route that is the thing i use.
                                    The only question i have now is: How much mobile data wil it cost if i navigate this way. I can not make use of offline maps nor a downloaded route. Do you have any idea. If Not, I simply give it a try.
                                    Baltus.

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                                    • Baltusundefined Baltus

                                      @Nick-Carthew
                                      Nick, this is an eyeopener for me. I found the MRA mobile app not useful. Most of the time i have my laptop with me. So if i want to make or adjust a route that is the thing i use.
                                      The only question i have now is: How much mobile data wil it cost if i navigate this way. I can not make use of offline maps nor a downloaded route. Do you have any idea. If Not, I simply give it a try.
                                      Baltus.

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                                      RouteXperts Instructor
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                                      @Baltus said in Other standard map:

                                      @Nick-Carthew
                                      Nick, this is an eyeopener for me. I found the MRA mobile app not useful. Most of the time i have my laptop with me. So if i want to make or adjust a route that is the thing i use.
                                      The only question i have now is: How much mobile data wil it cost if i navigate this way. I can not make use of offline maps nor a downloaded route. Do you have any idea. If Not, I simply give it a try.
                                      Baltus.

                                      I don’t have an exact answer but I would think that mobile data usage will be minimal. Give it a try, I’m sure that you will be pleasantly surprised.

                                      Always willing to help if I can.
                                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                      • Baltusundefined Baltus

                                        Dear Michel. When will it be possible to make use of the OSM in the navigation app?
                                        I bought the app to use aspecially for my bike tours. In MRA it is possible to make very nice bike routes with the OSM. But in the navigation app it is impossible to play them.
                                        Best regards, Baltus.

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                                        @Baltus I suggest you give it a try to use OsmAnd as your bike navigation app. Construct your routes in the OSM map with MRA, and load them up in the OsmAnd app. I've never used it to navigate myself, but I know there is a bike mode, and you can upload your tracks in it. Should it be said, it works (only ?) with OSM card material. And it looks finished, I can tell...

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                                          @John-Roberts, I am in no way affiliated to MyRouteApp and have no video's whatsoever. But I am willing to try to help. But that is difficult if you don't tell what satnav we are talking about, do not link your route and share no screenshots. But if your device acknowledges new data, and then cannot find it, the problem lies most likely within your device.

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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