@Nick-Carthew-RouteXpert

I just looked at your "El Grande" route. Impressive from two viewpoints:

• My God, what a trip

• What a fantastic preparation, you are really putting a lot of time preparign and documenting your journeys. A real showcase of what is possible with MRA

@matt-flaming At my job, our big boss (also called Director General) has forbidden us to discuss on anything using email.... or any other form of electronic writing because he considers it the best way possible ... to end up in an argument, even when nobody really wants to have an argument.

Hence, I spend quite some time video conferencing... and have to admit my DG is right (there is a reason why he is director general ).

Here on this forum it is the same, we all start from our own experience, are from different cultures... and sometimes write somethign that can be taken badly by someone else. That does apply to everybody here, i am not throwing any stone to anybody in particular (it would mess up my computer screen )

Basically, you must stay on board... your critical view is valuable, I may not always agree ... but that is maybe the best part of it. Your criticism makes me think... and that on its own is constructive.

and let's agree to be even more careful in future how we say things, Constructive criticism, even when said muted, is picked up and will be listened to by the company running this show.

All the best

When making a route, each waypoint introduced leads to an automatic recalculation. When seriously changing a (long) route this can be a bt annoying as the system can take quite some time to recalculate and I have to wait in front of the screen until its done;

As a user, I would like to be able to stop automatic recalculation to change many points (or their order in the route) , or to combine several exiting routes and delete all the unneeded parts of that combination, and only have it calculated once when I switch calculation back on.

Uncalculated parts of the routes could be shown on screen by straight dotted lines (as an example).

I guess this could also save some server time?

Are you doing the same? I mean, constructing the most fabulous tours and holidays in MRA, looking at roads and points of interests in area's you've never been, dreaming of months on the road...

Corona boredom has strange effects, for sure

Idon't know whether the following qualifies as "discussion of the list itself, its' structure and possibly its' level of accuracy" as I am basically adding to the list but I have the following additional requests:

• A download option for all our routes in one go, respecting the folder structure, as backup

• Integration of our MRA account and profile, and the forum account and profile with options to decide what we want to make public and what not

I notice that novice users are sometimes struggling with the most simple things like how to make a route public.

Obviously, that is lack of experience, in combination with impatience to start using the system without going through the complete support site, but it is also a consequence of having difficulties finding the info.

So, I would like to put a request for the GSList to simplify and make coherent the user interface again.

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I am not a graphical designer, my programming skills were honed back in times where a computer delivered "output" under form of "listings" which were endless lengths of paper with a chain of small holes left and right to pull that paper through the printer.

Anything better than that is fine in my book

Bu that aside, i kind of like that those buttons, they have a joly look. I would however love to see the pop up a bit different. When it opens, halve of the buttons are hidden and one needs to pushh the "triangle with three dots" to open it up fully. I would hugely prefer to see all buttons in one go.

I cheer for every MRA update, although i sometimes hate how they do that

And just like all other users i have a ling list of unavailable features that i would like to see introduced ... but overall i am happy with the support that the routeplanner does give me.

And then, somecomments on this forum seem to suggest that any small shortcoming in the software, or the route, or the track is a life tgreathening situation capable of completely ruining a trip???
Hence, my question: shoul we be more capable of accepting some errors, and more capable of driving around considering mra as a welcome aid rather than as a nessential tool which potential failure ruins the trip?

@TJ-Higgins the satelite layer from Here is still there, it may (zoomed out) not look so nice but once you zoom in it is ok

@Brian-Liechty

Hai Brian,

I live in Belgium, a small country (10 million people) in Europe, and we are also at the leading edge of the disease. Government has taken the drastic decision to more or less shut down the entire economy. Many factories are closed. I have an office job and am working from home since a week.

We don't know where this virus will lead us. In Italy, it's devastating, and I hope our government has reacted fast enough and we don't end up with 3000+ deaths in Belgium as well, but we don't know, we can only follow the instructions of the government and hope for the best.

We have one huge advantage here in Belgium that despite our political system being the laughing stock of the rest of Europe, we do have one of the best health care and social security systems of the planet. Survive without a job means that you fall back on a minimum monthly income guaranteed and paid by by the government.That unemployment beneftit won't make you rich, but is certainly enough to survive and a bit more than that. Health insurance organised by the government will cover 70-90% of all costs related to hospitalisation and medicine, and the government has today announced fairly massive measures such as 1 billion euro allocated to support the hospitals (on the scale of a 10 million people population, that is a lot), granting delays to companies for paying their taxes, give very cheap loans to companies ... whatever it takes to keep economy alive basically.

Add to that the measures taken by the European Union and I think (hope) that economically speaking we are as safe as we can be under the given circumstances. Yes, companies will close, some poeple will lose thier job and the stock market is going down, and after the crisis it will go up again, as always.

The big worry is whether we, and our family, will stay healthy, or get sick and maybe die.

Compared to that, all the rest is fairly irrelevant. These days in Italy, where the disease is rampaging at full speed, people die simply becuse there are no beds free anymore in the hospitals, and no more oxigen masks, and the doctors are as ill as their patients. If I would be in a position to give advice to you and your customers: first take care of yourself and your loved ones, and then for your community. Stay home, stay alone, don't go to restaurants, or warehouses... forget about business... survive, and then pick up the pieces.

Feel free to disagree, I wholeheartedly hope that I am totally wrong and in two weeks time all this will prove to be a massive hoax but today, it does not look like that.

All the best.

@Don-Stauffer said in User POI:

Thanks for that, I'll give it a try. I have been using 'favorites' for routing, but like to use POI's for things that I may or may not decide to include on a route. Like a national park or a fabulous brew pub!

-dhs

When I find something interesting during the year i add the address as favorite. that makes it a lot easier to plan a holiday

@Con-Hennekens One does not exclude the other

If sufficient screen estate available then we could have a map without any clutter and the HUD approach aside with all the other information?

But I am biased, I adore aircraft

@Jabp this idea is just marvelous. I am all in favor

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master hallo vanuit Roeselare

@Con-Hennekens said in Suggestion: user defined navigation screen:

Oh, so now you are running away with my idea... (just joking)

Damn, you noticed

All true what you and Timo say, and yes definitively this is not part of a first viable product, but postponing is often leading to "never"

possibility to store several preferred navigation screen set-ups with several options (ETA, Time, Speed, ...) visible or not, and a user defined name.

Like this we could have a bicycle screen, an open road screen, a city screen... all looking like each individual user would like it

@Steve-Lynch said in Suggestion: routing options in planner transfer to Navigation Next:

I had a brain freeze

That is good if it does not last for too long.

If nothing else, it proves you have a brain

@Steve-Lynch said in Suggestion: routing options in planner transfer to Navigation Next:

Lots of talk about “Tracks” in this thread.
Maybe its just a language thing, but hasn’t it already been confirmed that MRA Next will be based on the Here map using Via and Shaping Points with GPX1.1 or GPX1.2?

I guess that Next, in combination with the routeplanner, will enable options that cannot be translated to gpx 1.1 or 12.2

This is irrelevant as long as you stay in the MRA universe but will be annoying when you move to a less performant platform like a GPS device from Garmin or TomTom where you can only import GPX files..

Although this is only a guess, MRA evolution should not be hampered by the limitations of other devices.

@Timo-Martosatiman-MRA Projects can, no matter the good intentions, the great idea's, the involvement and motivation of the resources, fail or be hugely successful for external reasons that the project has no influence on.

It is very useful to do a post mortem on any project, success or disaster, after it has ended and learn from it (and find area's for future projects ).

@Timo-Martosatiman-MRA said in Early stop to the Season Challenge. Brainstorm on the next:

Arrogance.

I would not dare to call it arrogance! If every project failed would be consequence of "arrogance" then half the working, volunteering, undertaking polulation would be arrogant.

Perhaps this seasonal challenge was a bit misguided and certainly not the best idea MRA ever had, but then again...

If you are able to learn from it ... then it was a good experience