@jack-van-tilburg I agree. It is usually a bad idea to work directly with your "historical" routes as the risk is high that you would unintentionaly change them. Your approach is much safer.

@sven-v As far as I know it's not possible to do what you want in MRA But.... there is a workaround Let's say you have a route with waypoints 1 to 6 and you want to set a winding route level between waypoint 3 and 4. Proceed: 1.- Make a route A from 1 to 3 2.- Make a route B from 3 to 4 and set winding route level as you want. Expand that route to more points (dependint how long is). Let's say you expand to 40 waypoints 3.- Make a route C from 4 to 6 Now, join all the routes and the trip 3 to 4 will keep the route designed with the winding level you choosed

@ian-street Which .gpx format to use seems very dependent on the device to be used. I haven’t a clue how yours might treat .gpx1.0 (my 390 was designed to use this despite 1.1 being current at the time???). In theory, from what little I’ve read about them, I think the formats ‘should’ be backwards compatible, in that devices intended to use later versions can use earlier ones. But somehow… This is Garmin we’re talking about! Give it a go, you won’t do any damage, but might get an error message or odd looking route!

@tom-vandenbossche One work around you may want to try is to use Google MyMaps. Create a new map, and import each day's track into a separate layer. You can have up to 10 layers per map, so that will accommodate a 10 day trip, and if you need more you just create a separate map. This is very quick and easy to do as MRA allows you to export (save as) up to 10 routes or tracks at one time. These are combined into one zip file with the same names they have in MRA and can be unzipped quickly back into 10 separate files. Importing into MyMaps layers is very quick and easy as well once you've done it a time or two. The nice thing about MyMaps is you can turn each layer (your individual day's route in your case) on and off completely unlike Basecamp which shows them all and just highlights the one that you've selected. You can also very easily share your entire trip on MyMaps with friends and family if you want to show them where you're going or have been. I'll upload a couple of examples below of routes that I've exported from MRA to MyMaps. The first will show all 10 layers visible, and the second will show all but one turned off. Steve [image: 1643563120375-routes-1.jpg] [image: 1643563138513-routes-2.jpg]

@sudolea This is how I exactly plan my routes. With the split option available it works perfectly.

Thanks @pad-0, I hadn't realised that certain functions only apply to specific maps.

@steve-lynch Re. “Like @PAD-0 said they are ways round most of the issues.” Indeed, but not really very happy ones! Avoidance of a feature because it doesn’t work, or doesn’t work reliably, is not ideal, to put it mildly! It does seem to be an MRA standard though, as expressed at its highest level by Navigation app best being avoided altogether!!!

@hans-van-de-ven-mra-master Perfect. Thank you so much Hans! Tom Dorcey Spyder Owners and Ryders (SOAR)

@pad-0 thx for yr review and advices. I will follow-up Rgds

@brian-albee It probably depends on the way the filters are set. You can click one of the "parameters" in the toolbar that is shown when viewing the overview of multiple routes in a folder. Click "Name" to set the sorting order for the Name parameter, or click on of the other parameters to filter by that parameter. Probably you've changed it by accident to i.e. Privacyacy setting or Modification date ? [image: 1642946886464-screenshot_20220123-150624__01-resized.jpg]

@hans-van-de-ven-mra-master Exactly. Thanks a million

@hans-van-de-ven-mra-master Top hier kan ik wat mee , bedankt

@con-hennekens Beste heer Hennekens, bedankt voor uw uitleg en reactie, dit ga ik uitproberen groetjs Willem

@nick-carthew Thanks for the advice I'll give it a try.

@herko-ter-horst The app does not run long enough for the phone to overheat. I first noticed the issue on a recent trip. I tested the problem just sitting in my house. The phone just restarts after a half hour or so.

DANKE !!!!!!!!!!!! lg Franz

Thanks for the input. I built a route around my current location and tested the options. They seem to work similar, but are worded differently. Testing definitely was the best way to figure this out. I have one issue with the way the Android and IOS versions of the app navigate. The app should navigate to the closest point in the direction that you are going. For instance, I placed a point closest to my location in the opposite direction of my route and the system wanted to double back in the opposite direction and then move forward. In my opinion, the app should alway navigate to the closest point with the higher number.

@peter-bijnsdorp Ik maak het mijzelf iets makkelijker. Ik ga, net als jij, In mijn route bibliotheek naar de route die ik zou willen navigeren en klik dan op het icoontje "route bewerken" en wijzig dan alleen de naam. Iedere aanpassing is voldoende om de datum "Gewijzigd" aan te passen. Jij noemt in jouw beschrijving ook 'track'. Maar MRA Nav werkt niet met tracks. (wist je vast al ) Werkt prima voor één/twee routes maar voor meerdaagse reizen vind ik het makkelijker om een evenement aan te maken en de geplande routes daarin op te nemen.

@hans-van-de-ven-mra-master Bedankt Hans, dit werkt idd.