@ptrdvrs ok, I believe I have understood bit better... If you have a route, you can open via left side menue the internal POI section and select a POI category - may a Coffee shop. If you are zooming into the map, icons of this POI category will appear on map - and you can see, if in the preferred area, such a POI is close to your route. If you click on such an icon in map, you will be asked by popup window, if you simply want to add this POI as only POI to your route - or if you want to add it as POI AND as route point. As only POI, it will be visible only in the map and in the manageable list. As POI AND route point, it will be visible in the map as POI (and in manageable list) as well as route point, included in the route and route point list. If you transmit it via gpx 1.1 to garmin, the file includes POI, route with route points and track with track points. And Garmin will import all (POI as favorite). If you have a route, you can open via left side menue the internal POI section and in the tab "manage" you can enter your own POI, selected by position in the map. But unfortunately thus will only be a POI in map - no way to include it as route point. If you need it also as route point - in this procedure, you need to enter a route point manually nearby. In all 3 options: POI selected from internal POI section POI selected from internal POI section, incl. set as route point POI created manually every time, the POI will be transmitted to Garmin-XT into favorites. The route will not include it (only in case 2), but in your scenario- you can stop navigation, select the POI out of favorites and let garmin navigate to.

@Aggelos-Minoudis hmmm - looks like, you need to learn/understand basics how route planning and navigation works. May I help you by easy words: A route is a collection of points, defined by gps coordinates and called exactly as "rtept" (route points). A navigation app or device calculates a direction from one point to the next one, using street information in a map. And presenting it as a line as overlay on the map. Garmin is showing this line mostly in purple colour, with orange flag icons for each route point. Mostly navigation apps/devices can only handle limited amount of route points. Very often, people are talking about this points as waypoints; but this is technically not correct. A track is also a collection of points, defined by gps coordinates but called exactly as "trkpt" (track points). A navigation app or device is not calculating a direction from one point to the next point. But is presenting it as a line as overlay on the map. Garming let you select o colour in the settings, and only the first- and the last point will be presented in map. Usage of track points is mostly not limited. A track is usually a recorded file during a ride. Additionally you can enter POI (Point's of Interrest) out of a collection (gas stations, hotels, restaurants, etc.) - these are called exactly as "wpt" (way points). A navigation app or device is not calculating a direction from one point to the next point. But is presenting such points as a icon as overlay on the map. You can save a created route in MRA-Routeplanner as gpx 1.1 fike at your computer. Then open it as simple text file (may by notepad) - then you can see it: in the file, there is the route as well as the track. And if you have entered POI - there are also included in gpx file. If you are using MyRoute-App for navigation, you could be lucky, because this app is also able to guide/route you by a track! If you are going to transmit a route or a track by gps file to a Garmin device, you can do this by USB, copy to SD-Card, Bluetooth or WiFi - based by device type. For a Gamin-XT, I mostly used the Garmin app "Drive" (Bluetooth). But Garmin has developed the system/app "Explore" (Wifi) resp. Thread App (Bluetooth), to be used for future - starting with Garmin XT2! But you need to know: "Explore" is a route planning system and is calculating transmitted routes by its own algorithm. Effect: transmitted route to the device is mostly different to your original planned route! If you switch on in your XT2 preferences, to populate both, route and track on screen. Then you will see probably a difference between track and route (because the track will never be recalculated). To prevent this, use more route points during planning. To not overspent capability of garmin device, use more "shaping points" and less "via points" in MRA-Routeplanner.

The only way I can get my Nav6 to follow the planned route is to only use via points, if I use way points it always tries to deviate from the set route.

Als je een route open hebt staan op je toestel (dus voordat je op de navigeertoets klikt) heb je rechtsboven in het scherm de drie puntjes. Daarachter staat een knop om een QR code van je route te maken. Je kan die QR-code opslaan middels een screenshot of uitprinten. Een ander die de MRA-app heeft kan die route dan direct op zijn telefoon openen (de route moet dan wel de juiste privacy-modus hebben in zijn instellingen). Is dat wat je bedoelt?

Yes it helps. Last year I drove 5.000km mainly in France and it guided me well. It helped me, not riding my roof off, under a lower bridge

I got tired of playing with 1.1/1.2 and resorted to exporting to XT using GPX 1.0. Seems to keep the fidelity of the route I planned and includes all of the waypoints and viapoints where I put them. I keep the XT around as my 'belt and suspenders' approach. If my phone pukes, I have a dedicated satnav to fall back on. Just as long as I don't have to open Basecamp.

[image: 1753020876642-img_8932.jpeg] In de MGB een 7" draadloos Ali scherm (±€65) icm iPhone. Werkt uitstekend, goed overzicht en geluid via de telefoon. Mbv RAM Mount ook makkelijk op de R1200RT te monteren, geluid dan via de helm.

Ja. Mapsource kan als .GPx bestand wegschrijven. Dat is dus geen probleem. [image: 1752688990436-screenshot-001.jpg] Daarna gewoon importeren in MRA en eventueel bewerken. En zo ziet het er na importeren uit: [image: 1752689189178-screenshot-002.jpg]

@Corjan-Meijerink said in SilverFox Controller C 1: I indeed still need to update the manuals That would be great

I will make some adjustments and try again. Seems like waypoint adjustments are key! Thank you for the feedback.

@David-Kelly, Like other already said, it is easier solved by just starting your navigation from the routes menu. It is a bit strange to start routes from a GPX when you already have them in your app.

No, splitting the routes is indeed the recommended way

@LMG Search in the Support section of MRA for Display and merge routes.

Hey! Welcome to MyRoute-app (MRA), great to hear you’re already planning routes and syncing them with your TomTom Rider 550. What you’re describing — similar mileage but a much longer duration on the TomTom compared to MRA — is actually pretty common and can be due to a few reasons: TomTom’s Routing Preferences: TomTom devices often recalculate routes using their own algorithms and settings, which include speed limits, road types, and traffic conditions. Even if the distance is similar, if TomTom “thinks” some roads will take longer (due to lower speed limits, traffic, or road classes), the estimated duration can increase significantly. Speed Profile Differences: MRA might use an average speed or estimated speed profile that differs from TomTom’s. For example, MRA may estimate your trip speed based on typical motorcycle speeds, while TomTom uses its own speed limits and historical traffic data, which can add time. Traffic and Road Conditions: The TomTom Rider 550 has live traffic information and road hazard alerts. If the device detects slow traffic flows, accidents, roadworks, or other delays along your route, it can estimate a longer travel time. This can explain why the estimated time on the TomTom sometimes increases significantly. How long are your routes? The longer they are, the bigger the difference can be.

Als verkeersincidenten en verkeersinformatie aanstaat kan het zijn dat je route omgeleid wordt om deze te vermijden. Mocht deze aanstaan, uitzetten (zowel in de Drive app als in de 1095) en kijk wat er met je MRA route gpx 1.1 gebeurt. Zet eens herberekenen uit zoals Marinus al schreef (indien mogelijk want op de meeste outdoor toestellen van Garmin kan dit niet en dan wordt er herberekend rekening houdende met de voertuiginstellingen; dimensies) en kijk wat er dan gebeurt. Indien niet mogelijk ga je je route eerst in MRA web routeplanner moeten optimaliseren om zo min mogelijk afwijkingen te krijgen. Kan je hier een link plaatsen van je route zodat ik deze eens kan bekijken hoe deze er uit ziet en suggesties doen.

Fijn om te lezen!

@Roger-Needham-0 said in Other travellers using MRA not following the defined route: I create a link to the folder in which I have stored the routes and then let my friends download the routes as they please. So some will just ‘use’ the routes if they are also MRA Navigation users Other MRA Navigation Next users do not need to download the route. If they are friends in the app/RouteLab, and you made the route available for friends, they can navigate directly to the relevant folder and start the route immediately.