@white-mouse-on-the-motorbike Dank je!

I don't see the 377 number when looking at my installed app in settings. The version number (in this case '4.3.4 - 377') can be seen in the account screen within the app: Menu (top left) -> Account (top right) scroll to the bottom You won't see the full version info in Google Play Store. [image: 1735063661673-version.jpg]

@M-Schrijver That's what threw me, the original settings that I had on the phone worked well with Waze, and Google maps, but affected MRA, which made me feel I was doing something wrong in the app. Trouble is I don't like messing about too much with phone settings, as before I know it I've buggered everything up.

I did some more tests and probably figured out what was going on. Here are my thoughts: When creating a route with the web planner, the calculated result is supplemented with "hidden shaping points" (similar to the GPX 1.2 format) to store and preserve its shape. An imported track (route track) gets its shape from the (typically huge amount of) track points. Let's call this the "original shape". Opening such a route or track with the navigation app shows its original shape as a preview. When starting navigation, the original shape is drawn on the map as a white line. On top of it, a route will be calculated using strictly HERE data that follows the original shape as closely as possible. The result is drawn as a blue line. If white and blue match, we see just a blue line; otherwise, both. If a part of the blue lines deviates too far from the white line, it will be cut and replaced by a straight line. The same happens when deviating during the navigation: the blue line will be recalculated and leads back (or close) to the white line. All turn indications refer to the blue line, not the white line. So, we are not navigating a pre-calculated route or track; we are actually navigating a route that is calculated on top of it and is always based on HERE data. I'm curious about any feedback. Am I right? Or, if wrong, what's then going on?

@M-Schrijver when navigating an offroad road as track, the original track data is used. However, as the entire route is marked as offroad, there is no track data. The track data is just straight lines between all waypoints The app does calculate a nice route to the nearest point on the track. Therefore you get a correct route to a point on the track and then just straight lines as the offroad route has no information.

I haven't used lane assist very often so far. For some tests, I gave it a go yesterday on a 50 km trip with a mix of highway, overland and cities around Hamburg / Germany. About 30 % of all lane assists were not exact or downright misleading. I turned lane assist off again...

@moto_ness open the app settings and you can choose the unit

@Robert-Hillen said in Tankstations tijdens navigatie: Misschien een idee dat als je klikt op dit tankstation plaatje dat deze als eerst volgende routepunt wordt toegevoegd en je dus meteen navigeert naar dit punt. Dat is precies hoe het werkt, als je als route navigeert (en niet als track).

@white-mouse-on-the-motorbike, of course not, previous versions did not have this track navigation

@Corjan-Meijerink Ah yes it might very well have been the case. Then I was only a bit confused by the text that tells me "... Go online ..." while being online. It is probably better to not show that part of the text but no big deal.

@seasdes I sometimes see this, too. In my country (UK),we drive on the left but I also drive a lot on the Continent, where they drive on the right. I see the misnumbering here at home and abroad, so it has nothing to do with the side of the road you drive on. What I think is happening is that MyRoute sometimes interprets a small side road ‘exit’ (sometimes leading nowhere other than to a gated field or a tiny road, used only by a person on foot or now just redundant) as a full exit, whereas other apps ignore it. I have seen other apps do the same thing (ie. adding an extra ‘exit’) when MyRoute ignores them. I have also seen some apps interpreting large roads, where there is an exit lane off the roundabout and an entry lane onto the roundabout, as both being exits. Sometimes, you just have to use your common sense and ignore the number. PS Most roundabouts have a sign on their approach, showing where the exit roads lead to and their position on the roundabout. Use the information the signs give, alongside the navigation, to help work out which exit to take. Just like we used to do before navigation app’s appeared to rule our lives.

The original route was calculated online but you navigate offline. Probably due to traffic / online data the white line was calculated but as you switched to offline another route has been taken.

@Herman-Veldhuizen @Con-Hennekens @Corjan-Meijerink. The latest app update looks very promising. I used navigation as tracks, no automatic recalculation. My route (set of possible stops) is now finally a set of via points (such that the app shows me the time/distance to the next possible stop) and it doesn't recalculate, just as I wanted. Driving a bus is maybe not so much different as driving a scenic route with a motorbike. Both go after a set of possible stops. The app has lots of potential. Thanks and keep up the good work.

@PA-Vis-0 Met de Here-kaart starten en de OSM kaartlaag activeren

@Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert I used option 1 via the hamburger menu

@M-Schrijver Dank voor je reactie en alles wat je noemt is waar en zijn goede tips. In dit geval was ik minder nauwkeurig en vertrouwde er op dat er geen verschil tussen MRA web (routelab) en MRA app zou zijn. En dat laatste was het dus wel het geval. Het feit dat de app de route wijzigt bij dezelfde instellingen was het punt van mijn topic.

@Brian-McG I carved out some time today and ran the route again. This time with a version where I added a 2 more shaping points as circled: [image: 1732151823225-screenshot-165.png] That did the trick, and Offline mode for the route worked. Waypoint #12 is too close after the turn, so I didn't get an audio announcement, but I was more concerned with simply forcing the turn on the correct street. In the nutshell, Offline is functional, but the assumption I had regarding an MRA route calculating the same both online and offline (all the time) is incorrect. The lesson for me is to load up (or just plain overload) on shaping points to leave nothing to chance. I still think there should be some kind of alert when the calculations are different, but I feel comfortable continuing with offline navigation when needed. Thanks again for your input.

@Jos-Hendrikx for motorcycle, you can get a Chigee Aio-5 Play and it has his own bar controller that works with Android Auto / Car Play !

@Ben-van-der-Burg Bedoel je het verschil tussen de snelheidsmeter van de auto en de snelheidsmeting via GPS/navigatie? Dan kan dat kloppen! Snelheidsmeting via GPS is nauwkeuriger dan via de "standaard" snelheidsmeter van een auto. De snelheidsmeter in een auto heeft tussen 4% en 10o% afwijking en zal altijd een hogere snelheid aangeven dan wat je daadwerkelijk rijdt. Dus als je een afwijking hebt van 6% en je de snelheidsmeter op de dashboard geeft aan dat je 100 rijdt, dan rij je een werkelijke snelheid van 94 km/u (6% van 100 km/u = 6 km/u). Snelheidsmeting via GPS signaal is nauwkeuriger dan de "standaard" snelheidsmeting van jouw auto. Dit komt voornamelijk vanwege de afstand tussen jouw auto en de satelliet. Hierdoor is de foutmarge juist zeer gering en is de afwijking tot op 1 km/u nauwkeurig. Er wordt gemeten tussen minimaal 2 meetpunten en bij sommige navigatie apps of navigatie systemen moet je soms het systeem kalibreren om het signaal van meerdere satellieten te ontvangen waardoor het voorkomt dat je van 2 tot 4 a 5 satellieten een signaal ontvangt wat jouw plaats positie en snelheid alleen maar nog nauwkeuriger maakt. Onder andere navigatie apps gebruiken de GPS systemen om naast een nauwkeurige plaatsbepaling ook jouw snelheid zo nauwkeurig mogelijk te berekenen om jouw eigen positie tov de te rijden route te bepalen. Vandaar dat je dus uiterst nauwkeurige route aanwijzingen krijgt via een navigatie app. Let wel op, in gebieden waar de dekking minder is, oa tunnels of in steden met veel hoogbouw kan het juist voorkomen dat er geen of slechte GPS signaal is waardoor jouw snelheid en positiebepaling stukken minder nauwkeurig is.