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Of all the major maps available (Google, Apple. TomTom, OSM), HERE is the least reliable. As has been noted in several threads, the status of closed/open roads is continuously missed, out of date POI's remain on the maps for years, and unexplainable route calculations happen too often. Adding to the list, I recently found a HERE cartography error where sections of a road are actually in the wrong place. In the nutshell, HERE is HERE, and none of these significant deficiencies are going to change. Realistically, MRA is too functionally married to HERE to simply change vendors. MRA is painfully aware of the situation, but their hands are tied and they have no other choice than to make to best of the situation. Given the situation, as users of MRA, there are things we can do to somewhat mitigate the pain. The easiest is to perform all you your road status checks outside of MRA. Google and Apple provide accurate up-to-date road information that can easily be checked during route development. Additionally, if the HERE map won't let you route through a road that you know is open, and passing through that road is critical to your trip, consider using OSM as the base map. Unfortunately, this will only work if you're using a GPS instead of the NN phone app for route execution, but at least that choice is there for those it applies to. There are many tricks-and-tips for HERE workarounds posted throughout the forum. Many are very cleaver. It would be helpful if all those could somehow be consolidated and documented in one place for reference. I think that would be about the best we could get given the situation.

Yes, we have already driven about 300 km each for two days with the latest version V5.2.1(488), runs very well in the mobile phone applications so in the MRA... Thank you for that —- Ja wir sind jetzt schon zwei Tage jeweils ca. 300 km mit der neusten Version V5.2.1(488) gefahren, läuft sehr gut in der Handy Anwendungen also in der MRA… Danke dafür [image: 1785786128819-img_0676.jpeg]

Go to your Routelab account page and change the language to Italian. Then click on Support and you'll see the manuals are in Italian as well. Small warning while you're in there: it took me ages to get into my Routelab account at all last summer. I was on the road, and hotel and campsite wifi kept dying halfway through the login — I was convinced my account was broken. It was the network, not the site. Put a VPN on the laptop with an endpoint back home and it loaded first try, every time since. Picking one took longer than fixing the problem though, most reviews are just marketing. The roundup on https://kiesly.nl was the only one that actually compared them on speed and stability. Handy if you plan routes from abroad.

@Carl-Lee said: @mzokk, I'm wondering if in your above example, the OSM maps would not have had the break in the road in the first place? Hi Carl, that's exactly my point, the fault would not have been evident in OSM, BUT the Here maps were on the device so the route would have recalculated as the device would have seen the gap in the mapping and screwed up the route. @John-S-Parry said: Using a 1.2 GPX file would have avoided much of this drama, and it's one of the reasons I'm going to adopt 1.2 until something happens to convince me otherwise. Unfortunately the XT units do not play nicely with GPX 1.2 unless you switch recalculation off. Its good that the XT2 and 3 handle this much better but as I said I just plan most of my Routes on MRA route planner (the USP for me is that it's easy to use on the road) and just use the navigation app now. That means its WYSIWYG and there is no requirement to account for the vagaries of the Zumo XT. By the way I still love my Zumo 390 and 340 as their routing algorithm matches Basecamp when the settings are aligned and they also work well with the MRA Route planner. Truth be told, if I'd kept using the old simple units I'd never been tempted to move to phone based navigation. @John-S-Parry said: @mzokk Interesting scenario that you outlined. I've experienced some really strange HERE routing behaviour (on both Routeplanner and BC) but a gap like you showed has never been one of them. I reported this one and its now gone. I also had to report a similar one while planning a route in Scotland's central belt using minor roads to thread a route between Glasgow and Edinburgh, one in the Massif Central on the D62 in France and a couple local to me in Ireland. It appears that these faults occur at the edge of map tiles particularly where a road passes near to a river or railway line. I presume the process of linking the tiles is automated and the computing algorithm can get a bit confused. In Ireland, the most accurate maps are those produced by the Ordinance Survey and Google (I'd say they were on a par). OSM is next with Here maps the least accurate. That said, they are all very usable its just that you find anomalies and out of date bits from time to time as you do on paper maps.

enjoy the country side. hope it isn't raining cats and dogs

Die App mach so viel Spaß, Danke dafür, jetzt die 5. Tour jeweils ca. 200 - 300 km / Tag. Die Track - Bild Funktion ist [image: 1786038251162-img_0725.jpeg] [image: 1786038491155-img_0727.png]

Zijn er groepen die camperroutes hebben op gpx via MRA

Welcome! Hope your trip goes smoothly! Enjoy!

I know the area of the first two well, and they look very good to me. Just rode 1/3rd of route 1 this afternoon! And I like the info waypoints. Only one minor comment: some of the waypoints are just in front of a vital turn (route 1 waypoints 7 & 45, for example). I worry that the waypoint announcement might clash with the turn instruction (if people are using audio). Both have waypoints after the junction, so 7 & 45 (and any similar pre-junction ones) might be redundant.

@Lynchy67 It is on the list for major maintenance of the website, just like being able to export multiple routes in one go. Please be patient.

@Garry-Davis exactly, that would have been my second advice, but you are one step ahead. You can choose your beloved app, to count a route to the petrolstation

Hi ! So, the bad news is that Transfagarasan is still closed for now, but it should be opened in the next two weeks. You can check the live cam from time to time: https://www.roxy-world.ro/webcam-transfagarasan Good news is that Transalpina was opened about 5 days ago, some of my friends went there already and confirmed this. Enjoy Romania !