MRA Navigation APP

Hans van de Ven MR.MRA · 27 Oct 2021, 12:47

The problem is that in Basecamp the road is not there.

Reinhard-32 · 27 Oct 2021, 12:51

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I can check it at my Win10 PC and my iMac pro but I have problems to find the exact location of the missing or not shown road in the map.

Kudee · 27 Oct 2021, 12:52

@Reinhard-32 https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5364210/mobile#43.58887733921692;17.518429756164554;14///

On MY Basecamp the Road ist ok

Reinhard-32 · 27 Oct 2021, 13:40

Thanks for sharing the route. I have open the route in BaseCamp on both machines and found no differences. The gravel road is not there.
Then I checked it at Here maps with the same result: The gravel road is not in the Here / Garmin map.
When you switch off the track then you can see that the gravel road is not there.

HERE Map:

Map in BaseCamp on IMac with visible red track:

Map in BaseCamp on Mac with invisible track:

Hans van de Ven MR.MRA · 27 Oct 2021, 13:40

Same here

Hans van de Ven MR.MRA · 27 Oct 2021, 14:02

I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

Reinhard-32 · 27 Oct 2021, 15:04

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

Kudee · 27 Oct 2021, 16:15

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

Now I have loaded the route on my 595, the calculation works and the route can be started.

So again checked the Zümo, I do not have OSM maps installed.
I am now quite confused, thought I understand it after all these years.

Would Garmin now route me on the route even though it does NOT exist on the map?

Again, apologies and thanks to all.

lg Kudee

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Nick Carthew · 27 Oct 2021, 16:55

The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road

Kudee · 27 Oct 2021, 17:33

@Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
Hope i understand it the right way?
lg Kudee

Nick Carthew · 27 Oct 2021, 17:56

@Kudee I was being funny

Hans van de Ven MR.MRA · 27 Oct 2021, 18:12

@Reinhard-32

In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

Steve Lynch · 27 Oct 2021, 18:32

If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either.

Kudee · 27 Oct 2021, 18:33

@Steve-Lynch OSMand as well

Reinhard-32 · 27 Oct 2021, 19:42

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

Hans van de Ven MR.MRA · 27 Oct 2021, 20:05

@Reinhard-32

Thanks

Con Hennekens · 29 Oct 2021, 10:14

So...
Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

Kudee · 29 Oct 2021, 18:26

@Con-Hennekens
Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

lg Kudee

PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

Steve Lynch · 29 Oct 2021, 20:35

@Kudee

The TET routes are generally a mix of routable roads and off-road tracks.
I.e. Linking off-road tracks together via routable roads.
I have no experience with OSMand so can’t comment on that.
The TET tracks are freely available so in theory you could import them into
OSMand and see what you get.
The Garmin XT can handle off-road tracks but the Here maps can’t as far as I know.