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  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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    Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
    RouteXpert
    wrote on last edited by
    #45

    Same here

    Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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      RouteXpert
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      #46

      I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

        I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

        Reinhard-32undefined Offline
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        #47

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

        https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

        Kindly regards
        Reinhard

        ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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        • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

          I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

          Kudeeundefined Offline
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          #48

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

          Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

          Now I have loaded the route on my 595, the calculation works and the route can be started.

          So again checked the Zümo, I do not have OSM maps installed.
          I am now quite confused, thought I understand it after all these years.

          Would Garmin now route me on the route even though it does NOT exist on the map?

          Again, apologies and thanks to all.

          lg Kudee

          Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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            RouteXpert
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            #49

            The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road 😊 e5c5cc58-45ff-4e51-9e91-c2aafb70de80-image.png

            Always willing to help if I can.
            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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            • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

              The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road 😊 e5c5cc58-45ff-4e51-9e91-c2aafb70de80-image.png

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              #50

              @Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
              Hope i understand it the right way?
              lg Kudee

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              • Kudeeundefined Kudee

                @Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
                Hope i understand it the right way?
                lg Kudee

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                Nick Carthew
                RouteXpert
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                #51

                @Kudee I was being funny 😁

                Always willing to help if I can.
                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

                  https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

                  Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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                  Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                  RouteXpert
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                  @Reinhard-32

                  In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

                  Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                  • Steve Lynchundefined Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by Steve Lynch
                    #53

                    If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either. 😳

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

                      If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either. 😳

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                      @Steve-Lynch OSMand as well 🙄

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                      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                        @Reinhard-32

                        In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

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                        #55

                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                        Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
                        Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

                        What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

                        Kindly regards
                        Reinhard

                        ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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                        • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                          Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
                          Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

                          What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

                          Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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                          Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                          RouteXpert
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #56

                          @Reinhard-32

                          Thanks

                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                          • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            So...
                            Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
                            Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
                            But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              So...
                              Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
                              Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
                              But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #58

                              @Con-Hennekens
                              Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

                              What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

                              lg Kudee

                              PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
                              OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

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                              • Kudeeundefined Kudee

                                @Con-Hennekens
                                Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

                                What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

                                lg Kudee

                                PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
                                OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

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                                Steve Lynch
                                Valued contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #59

                                @Kudee

                                The TET routes are generally a mix of routable roads and off-road tracks.
                                I.e. Linking off-road tracks together via routable roads.
                                I have no experience with OSMand so can’t comment on that.
                                The TET tracks are freely available so in theory you could import them into
                                OSMand and see what you get.
                                The Garmin XT can handle off-road tracks but the Here maps can’t as far as I know.

                                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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