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  • HABVEN aka MrMRA
    HABVEN aka MrMRA
    HABVEN aka MrMRA
    Valued contributor
    wrote on last edited by
    #45

    Same here

    BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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    • HABVEN aka MrMRA
      HABVEN aka MrMRA
      HABVEN aka MrMRA
      Valued contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #46

      I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

      BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

        I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

        Reinhard-32
        Reinhard-32
        Reinhard-32
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        #47

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

        https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

        Kindly regards
        Reinhard

        Montana 700i and Mac

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        • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

          I think the conclusion is that Garmin provides different maps in different countries.

          Kudee
          Kudee
          Kudee
          wrote on last edited by
          #48

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

          Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

          Now I have loaded the route on my 595, the calculation works and the route can be started.

          So again checked the Zümo, I do not have OSM maps installed.
          I am now quite confused, thought I understand it after all these years.

          Would Garmin now route me on the route even though it does NOT exist on the map?

          Again, apologies and thanks to all.

          lg Kudee

          Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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          • Nick Carthew
            Nick Carthew
            Nick Carthew
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            #49

            The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road 😊 e5c5cc58-45ff-4e51-9e91-c2aafb70de80-image.png

            Always willing to help if I can.
            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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            • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

              The road and route can be seen using the TomTom map in MRA. I thought TomTom was no good for off road 😊 e5c5cc58-45ff-4e51-9e91-c2aafb70de80-image.png

              Kudee
              Kudee
              Kudee
              wrote on last edited by
              #50

              @Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
              Hope i understand it the right way?
              lg Kudee

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              • Kudee Kudee

                @Nick-Carthew Nick, you miss out the point. Question is if Gamin would route me or not. MRA wouldn't. No problem with OSMand.
                Hope i understand it the right way?
                lg Kudee

                Nick Carthew
                Nick Carthew
                Nick Carthew
                RouteXpert
                wrote on last edited by
                #51

                @Kudee I was being funny 😁

                Always willing to help if I can.
                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                • Reinhard-32 Reinhard-32

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master No Hans, I don‘t think so. Here is the creator of the map and sells them to Garmin. Garmin prepared the map for using at garmin sat navs. When you look at the origin here map then yo can see that the discussed road is not there.

                  https://wego.here.com/?map=43.59131,17.52787,13,normal

                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #52

                  @Reinhard-32

                  In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

                  BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                  • Steve Lynch
                    Steve Lynch
                    Steve Lynch
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                    wrote on last edited by Steve Lynch
                    #53

                    If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either. 😳

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • Steve Lynch Steve Lynch

                      If it’s any consolation, Calimoto Premium uses OSM and it can’t route that particular track either. 😳

                      Kudee
                      Kudee
                      Kudee
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #54

                      @Steve-Lynch OSMand as well 🙄

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                      • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                        @Reinhard-32

                        In @Kudee basecamp NTU map the road is there I believe, but in my NTU map, same version, the road is not there

                        Reinhard-32
                        Reinhard-32
                        Reinhard-32
                        wrote on last edited by Reinhard-32
                        #55

                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                        Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
                        Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

                        What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

                        Kindly regards
                        Reinhard

                        Montana 700i and Mac

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                        • Reinhard-32 Reinhard-32

                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                          Hans, see Kudee‘s comment here:
                          Friends, I am embarrassed. This road doesn't exist in Basecamp and I didn't realize it. Shame on me. What I did is imported the track into Basecamp and converted it to a route. Looked at it in Bacecamp and it looks like a route.

                          What he saw was the track and not the road. In the Garmin map at BaseCamp the road unfortunately doesn‘t exist.

                          HABVEN aka MrMRA
                          HABVEN aka MrMRA
                          HABVEN aka MrMRA
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #56

                          @Reinhard-32

                          Thanks

                          BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                          • Con Hennekens
                            Con Hennekens
                            Con Hennekens
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #57

                            So...
                            Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
                            Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
                            But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

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                            • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                              So...
                              Happy that Here maps seem to be equal between MRA an Basecamp after all
                              Unhappy that Here seems to be lagging after OSM.
                              But perhaps Here considers this road as no road, while TT and OSM do. Is it drivable by car? I think for most map-makers that would be a factor of importance.

                              Kudee
                              Kudee
                              Kudee
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #58

                              @Con-Hennekens
                              Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

                              What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

                              lg Kudee

                              PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
                              OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

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                              • Kudee Kudee

                                @Con-Hennekens
                                Good question. Can the road be driven on by car? Or what are roads? I unfortunately do not have a track of the route driven in Ukraine (No Internet) also because the recording of tracks at MRA is poorly implemented. The track shown by me is legal to drive on. THAT should perhaps be the indicator whether the road / track is displayed.

                                What about TET tracks? Are these visible in Garmin / MRA?

                                lg Kudee

                                PS: My 595 is still running and I have OSM loaded for each of the STAN states. My goal is to navigate only with the mobile.
                                OSMand makes a good impression, 2 apps make it complicated again.

                                Steve Lynch
                                Steve Lynch
                                Steve Lynch
                                Valued contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #59

                                @Kudee

                                The TET routes are generally a mix of routable roads and off-road tracks.
                                I.e. Linking off-road tracks together via routable roads.
                                I have no experience with OSMand so can’t comment on that.
                                The TET tracks are freely available so in theory you could import them into
                                OSMand and see what you get.
                                The Garmin XT can handle off-road tracks but the Here maps can’t as far as I know.

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