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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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    Corjan Meijerink
    Developer
    wrote last edited by
    #1

    Hi everyone! 👋

    It is time for a new update!

    Device management

    render_small.png

    This is the core aspect of this update.
    Unfortunately we are seeing a massive amount of account sharing going on.
    At MyRoute-app we try our hardest every single day to be customer oriented and keeping our prices low. As of this year our base prices for subscriptions had to be increased (for the first time since 2021) and because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.

    As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones. As of this update we allow a maximum of 2 devices to be used at the same time. When exceeding this limit (3 devices) you will be presented a beautiful interface in which you can deregister another device. After doing so, you can use your current phone again 😃

    Some important notes:

    • Excessively switching between multiple phones will lead to an automatic warning
    • Attempts to use way too many devices (4) at once will lead to an automatic block

    Our terms & conditions will be updated appropriately.
    Simply put: times of sharing your account with big groups of friends or your club are over, sharing with your partner / personal use on a few devices is still allowed.

    A full announcement can be read here: https://info.myrouteapp.com/limit-of-2-devices/

    SSO fixed

    Signing into the app using a SSO authentication method (such as Apple or Google) was broken. Luckily this has now been fixed! 🎉

    Link and file opening

    Opening links and files with the app has always been possible.
    In this update the stability of these features has been improved to ensure it works as expected when the app is in any state (such as terminated / in the background / opened).

    Audio stability Android
    In some rare cases a clean install of the app would not output any audio while navigating - this now seems fixed.

    Minor fixes and stability improvements

    Many small issues that are not relevant to mention here have been fixed.
    Also we fixed a few errors that would result in route calculations failing.
    Finally a few critical CarPlay / Android Auto errors have been solved and we added a bit more logging to investigate some persistent issues a few users have.

    What's next
    Slowly but surely we are transitioning to a more focused dedication on the website.
    In the next update 5.1 we will:

    • Aim for solving all stability issues CarPlay and Android Auto
    • Add highly requested features to CarPlay and Android Auto
    • Major technical internal updates

    Cheers,
    Corjan

    Peter Zehentreiterundefined pehaundefined 2 Replies Last reply
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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      Hi everyone! 👋

      It is time for a new update!

      Device management

      render_small.png

      This is the core aspect of this update.
      Unfortunately we are seeing a massive amount of account sharing going on.
      At MyRoute-app we try our hardest every single day to be customer oriented and keeping our prices low. As of this year our base prices for subscriptions had to be increased (for the first time since 2021) and because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.

      As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones. As of this update we allow a maximum of 2 devices to be used at the same time. When exceeding this limit (3 devices) you will be presented a beautiful interface in which you can deregister another device. After doing so, you can use your current phone again 😃

      Some important notes:

      • Excessively switching between multiple phones will lead to an automatic warning
      • Attempts to use way too many devices (4) at once will lead to an automatic block

      Our terms & conditions will be updated appropriately.
      Simply put: times of sharing your account with big groups of friends or your club are over, sharing with your partner / personal use on a few devices is still allowed.

      A full announcement can be read here: https://info.myrouteapp.com/limit-of-2-devices/

      SSO fixed

      Signing into the app using a SSO authentication method (such as Apple or Google) was broken. Luckily this has now been fixed! 🎉

      Link and file opening

      Opening links and files with the app has always been possible.
      In this update the stability of these features has been improved to ensure it works as expected when the app is in any state (such as terminated / in the background / opened).

      Audio stability Android
      In some rare cases a clean install of the app would not output any audio while navigating - this now seems fixed.

      Minor fixes and stability improvements

      Many small issues that are not relevant to mention here have been fixed.
      Also we fixed a few errors that would result in route calculations failing.
      Finally a few critical CarPlay / Android Auto errors have been solved and we added a bit more logging to investigate some persistent issues a few users have.

      What's next
      Slowly but surely we are transitioning to a more focused dedication on the website.
      In the next update 5.1 we will:

      • Aim for solving all stability issues CarPlay and Android Auto
      • Add highly requested features to CarPlay and Android Auto
      • Major technical internal updates

      Cheers,
      Corjan

      Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
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      wrote last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
      #2

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in Update 5.0.3 - Device management:

      As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones. As of this update we allow a maximum of 2 devices to be used at the same time. When exceeding this limit (3 devices) you will be presented a beautiful interface in which you can deregister another device. After doing so, you can use your current phone again

      I have a question about that!
      I have the app running on four devices.

      1 Pixel 9 online (used for navigation)
      1 Motorola Edge 40 offline (used in parallel with navigation

      Then I have another Pixel 9 that I use as my everyday device and use in case of changes during the tour (so I can leave the other device in the navigation holder) and make changes via synchronization!

      Last but not least, I also have the app installed on an iPad....

      These 4 devices are used exclusively by ME ONLY.

      What do I need to do to continue using these 4 devices?

      BMW R 1250 GS
      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
      Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
      Pixel 9 "online"
      SPC Universal mount
      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
      Sena SLR 3
      Sena 50 R

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      • AWDC LAOundefined Offline
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        wrote last edited by AWDC LAO
        #3

        Ik heb ook MRA en NN op verschillende toestellen staan, MacBook Pro, een MacBook Air, 3 iPhones, en één Carpe Iter 4, gelukkig heb ik nu 2 full abonnementen,* maar dan moet ik vriend van mezelf zijn in beide <> richtingen.

        Tijdens de reizen zelf, kan ik op de goedkopere MacBook de routes nog bijsturen. Zelf rij ik altijd met 2 NN actief omdat er toch verschillen zijn en ik een detailkaart op het ene toestel en een grotere kaart op het andere kan gadeslaan zonder mijn handen van het stuur te halen .
        Soms bij offroad of tracks komt er nog de XT2 bij !

        Ik begrijp het gebruik op maximaal 2 toestellen gelijktijdig, maar hebt het wat moeilijk met de beperking van het installeren op maximaal 2 toestellen.

        R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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        • Lechfelderundefined Offline
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          wrote last edited by
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          Betrifft die Limitierung auf 2 Geräte nur die Funktion "Navigation Next"?

          Habe diese zwar, benötige die App nur zur Routenübertragung auf ein anderes System, allerdings auf mehreren Geräten. Würde, sofern dies zutrifft, dann Navigation Next deaktivieren bzw. löschen lassen.

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          • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

            Ik heb ook MRA en NN op verschillende toestellen staan, MacBook Pro, een MacBook Air, 3 iPhones, en één Carpe Iter 4, gelukkig heb ik nu 2 full abonnementen,* maar dan moet ik vriend van mezelf zijn in beide <> richtingen.

            Tijdens de reizen zelf, kan ik op de goedkopere MacBook de routes nog bijsturen. Zelf rij ik altijd met 2 NN actief omdat er toch verschillen zijn en ik een detailkaart op het ene toestel en een grotere kaart op het andere kan gadeslaan zonder mijn handen van het stuur te halen .
            Soms bij offroad of tracks komt er nog de XT2 bij !

            Ik begrijp het gebruik op maximaal 2 toestellen gelijktijdig, maar hebt het wat moeilijk met de beperking van het installeren op maximaal 2 toestellen.

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            wrote last edited by
            #5

            @AWDC-LAO

            HI,

            Can you use the same language that thread creator of this post used?

            Switching languange on web with online translator is no efective.

            Thank's.

            Lluis Arasanz

            • BMW F750GS
              MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device
            • Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
              Tasker and MMLink SW for Android App Control
            • iPhone 14 with Beta MyRoute-App (personal and primary CP use)
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            • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

              Ik heb ook MRA en NN op verschillende toestellen staan, MacBook Pro, een MacBook Air, 3 iPhones, en één Carpe Iter 4, gelukkig heb ik nu 2 full abonnementen,* maar dan moet ik vriend van mezelf zijn in beide <> richtingen.

              Tijdens de reizen zelf, kan ik op de goedkopere MacBook de routes nog bijsturen. Zelf rij ik altijd met 2 NN actief omdat er toch verschillen zijn en ik een detailkaart op het ene toestel en een grotere kaart op het andere kan gadeslaan zonder mijn handen van het stuur te halen .
              Soms bij offroad of tracks komt er nog de XT2 bij !

              Ik begrijp het gebruik op maximaal 2 toestellen gelijktijdig, maar hebt het wat moeilijk met de beperking van het installeren op maximaal 2 toestellen.

              Rob Veermanundefined Offline
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              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @AWDC-LAO Quote: "As of this update we allow a maximum of 2 devices to be used at the same time." Unquote

              You can still have it installed at al your devices, only the simultaneous use is limited (which I find understandable).

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                Corjan Meijerink
                Developer
                wrote last edited by Corjan Meijerink
                #7

                When significantly exceeding the limit it's best to contact our support department.
                We simply cannot support unlimited devices per account anymore. A custom solution will be found per account.

                We do not block the installations but monitor usage of your subscription and limit that.

                Example of a recent support ticket:

                • One account with 4 devices
                • 2 for husband, 2 for wife
                • Offered to upgrade account to 4 devices for another purchase
                • Means they can continue to share the account
                • Customer happy and we've covered the costs of all their devices so our prices can remain low

                Note: the device limit only concerns the app for Navigation Next users. Not the website or other users using the app.

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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                  When significantly exceeding the limit it's best to contact our support department.
                  We simply cannot support unlimited devices per account anymore. A custom solution will be found per account.

                  We do not block the installations but monitor usage of your subscription and limit that.

                  Example of a recent support ticket:

                  • One account with 4 devices
                  • 2 for husband, 2 for wife
                  • Offered to upgrade account to 4 devices for another purchase
                  • Means they can continue to share the account
                  • Customer happy and we've covered the costs of all their devices so our prices can remain low

                  Note: the device limit only concerns the app for Navigation Next users. Not the website or other users using the app.

                  Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
                  Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
                  Peter Zehentreiter
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  @Corjan-Meijerink The following scenario...
                  The iPad is at home, ‘switched off’.

                  I am riding my motorbike and have the Pixel 9 online navigation mobile phone and MRA active, and my everyday Pixel 9 mobile phone is also online, but the MRA app is NOT active. The Motorola Edge 40 is also being used in parallel with the navigation system and is ‘completely OFFLINE’. MRA is also active.

                  What happens if I start the MRA app on my everyday mobile phone and want to make a correction to the route?
                  From this point on, three devices would be active with MRA (BUT ONLY TWO DEVICES ARE ONLINE).

                  Please reply.

                  BMW R 1250 GS
                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                  Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                  Pixel 9 "online"
                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                  Sena SLR 3
                  Sena 50 R

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                  • Hagedorn Hans-Jürgenundefined Offline
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                    Hagedorn Hans-Jürgen
                    wrote last edited by
                    #9

                    Hello,
                    I don't think this rule is right because I use one phone for motorcycle navigation, another for CarPlay, and an iPad for route planning on the go. Why can't it be like Spotify, where only one device can be logged in at a time? It's a shame; this makes the app unusable for many of my acquaintances, and I certainly can't recommend it anymore.

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                    • Hagedorn Hans-Jürgenundefined Hagedorn Hans-Jürgen

                      Hello,
                      I don't think this rule is right because I use one phone for motorcycle navigation, another for CarPlay, and an iPad for route planning on the go. Why can't it be like Spotify, where only one device can be logged in at a time? It's a shame; this makes the app unusable for many of my acquaintances, and I certainly can't recommend it anymore.

                      Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
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                      Peter Zehentreiter
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      @Hagedorn-Hans-Jürgen As far as I understand...you can have 2 devices parallel online, as soon as you start a 3rd device online, you have to close one Application of one of the running devices.

                      So planning on the go should work as long as only two devices are online.

                      Please enlighten me if this is not correct

                      BMW R 1250 GS
                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                      Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                      Pixel 9 "online"
                      SPC Universal mount
                      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                      Sena SLR 3
                      Sena 50 R

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                      • Lluis Arasanzundefined Offline
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                        Lluis Arasanz
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        Hi all,

                        I found that device limit is something good to left no one abuse this application.

                        I know also that more and more people installs in 2 phones (primary and backup) and uses a bigger screen, like a tablet, to route edit.

                        Perhaps, the device limit can be "launch" when user tries to "Navigate" a route? This allow use more devices for planning scenarios with no limits , but only a max of 2 to navigate.

                        Regards

                        Lluis Arasanz

                        • BMW F750GS
                          MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device
                        • Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
                          Tasker and MMLink SW for Android App Control
                        • iPhone 14 with Beta MyRoute-App (personal and primary CP use)
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                        • Hagedorn Hans-Jürgenundefined Hagedorn Hans-Jürgen

                          Hello,
                          I don't think this rule is right because I use one phone for motorcycle navigation, another for CarPlay, and an iPad for route planning on the go. Why can't it be like Spotify, where only one device can be logged in at a time? It's a shame; this makes the app unusable for many of my acquaintances, and I certainly can't recommend it anymore.

                          Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                          Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          @Hagedorn-Hans-Jürgen You won't even have an issue 🙂

                          You are using 2 devices as intended and sometimes a third.
                          When using the third you will be asked to unlist one of the other active devices which is a very smooth action with no impact at all.

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                          • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                            @Corjan-Meijerink The following scenario...
                            The iPad is at home, ‘switched off’.

                            I am riding my motorbike and have the Pixel 9 online navigation mobile phone and MRA active, and my everyday Pixel 9 mobile phone is also online, but the MRA app is NOT active. The Motorola Edge 40 is also being used in parallel with the navigation system and is ‘completely OFFLINE’. MRA is also active.

                            What happens if I start the MRA app on my everyday mobile phone and want to make a correction to the route?
                            From this point on, three devices would be active with MRA (BUT ONLY TWO DEVICES ARE ONLINE).

                            Please reply.

                            Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                            Corjan Meijerink
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #13

                            @Peter-Zehentreiter You would indeed be using too many devices.
                            Contacting customer support is the way.

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                            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                              @Hagedorn-Hans-Jürgen You won't even have an issue 🙂

                              You are using 2 devices as intended and sometimes a third.
                              When using the third you will be asked to unlist one of the other active devices which is a very smooth action with no impact at all.

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                              Peter Zehentreiter
                              wrote last edited by
                              #14

                              @Corjan-Meijerink said in Update 5.0.3 - Device management:

                              When using the third you will be asked to unlist one of the other active devices which is a very smooth action with no impact at all.

                              Also when one of these 3 devices is completely offline?

                              BMW R 1250 GS
                              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                              Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                              Pixel 9 "online"
                              SPC Universal mount
                              Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                              Sena SLR 3
                              Sena 50 R

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                              • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Update 5.0.3 - Device management:

                                When using the third you will be asked to unlist one of the other active devices which is a very smooth action with no impact at all.

                                Also when one of these 3 devices is completely offline?

                                Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                                Corjan Meijerink
                                Developer
                                wrote last edited by
                                #15

                                @Peter-Zehentreiter At one point you will be online and that's the point where we know what devices you used. In theory if you would never use internet we indeed cannot track the device 😉

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                                  is there a way to access the page that shows which devices I have registered or do I need to exceed the limit before this information is available?

                                  BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                                  Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                                  • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                                    is there a way to access the page that shows which devices I have registered or do I need to exceed the limit before this information is available?

                                    Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                                    Corjan Meijerink
                                    Developer
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Brian-McG from the account page in the app. There is a button to view your devices (near the bottom)

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                                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                      Hi everyone! 👋

                                      It is time for a new update!

                                      Device management

                                      render_small.png

                                      This is the core aspect of this update.
                                      Unfortunately we are seeing a massive amount of account sharing going on.
                                      At MyRoute-app we try our hardest every single day to be customer oriented and keeping our prices low. As of this year our base prices for subscriptions had to be increased (for the first time since 2021) and because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.

                                      As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones. As of this update we allow a maximum of 2 devices to be used at the same time. When exceeding this limit (3 devices) you will be presented a beautiful interface in which you can deregister another device. After doing so, you can use your current phone again 😃

                                      Some important notes:

                                      • Excessively switching between multiple phones will lead to an automatic warning
                                      • Attempts to use way too many devices (4) at once will lead to an automatic block

                                      Our terms & conditions will be updated appropriately.
                                      Simply put: times of sharing your account with big groups of friends or your club are over, sharing with your partner / personal use on a few devices is still allowed.

                                      A full announcement can be read here: https://info.myrouteapp.com/limit-of-2-devices/

                                      SSO fixed

                                      Signing into the app using a SSO authentication method (such as Apple or Google) was broken. Luckily this has now been fixed! 🎉

                                      Link and file opening

                                      Opening links and files with the app has always been possible.
                                      In this update the stability of these features has been improved to ensure it works as expected when the app is in any state (such as terminated / in the background / opened).

                                      Audio stability Android
                                      In some rare cases a clean install of the app would not output any audio while navigating - this now seems fixed.

                                      Minor fixes and stability improvements

                                      Many small issues that are not relevant to mention here have been fixed.
                                      Also we fixed a few errors that would result in route calculations failing.
                                      Finally a few critical CarPlay / Android Auto errors have been solved and we added a bit more logging to investigate some persistent issues a few users have.

                                      What's next
                                      Slowly but surely we are transitioning to a more focused dedication on the website.
                                      In the next update 5.1 we will:

                                      • Aim for solving all stability issues CarPlay and Android Auto
                                      • Add highly requested features to CarPlay and Android Auto
                                      • Major technical internal updates

                                      Cheers,
                                      Corjan

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                                      @Corjan-Meijerink said in Update 5.0.3 - Device management:

                                      Finally a few critical CarPlay / Android Auto errors have been solved and we added a bit more logging to investigate some persistent issues a few users have.

                                      Is the "map spinning when stopped" issue also adressed (maybe even fixed) here?

                                      VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
                                      Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
                                      Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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                                      • pehaundefined peha

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in Update 5.0.3 - Device management:

                                        Finally a few critical CarPlay / Android Auto errors have been solved and we added a bit more logging to investigate some persistent issues a few users have.

                                        Is the "map spinning when stopped" issue also adressed (maybe even fixed) here?

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                                        @peha haven’t worked on this explicitly

                                        5.1 is fully dedicated to AA / CP

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                                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                          @peha haven’t worked on this explicitly

                                          5.1 is fully dedicated to AA / CP

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for your reply. I will contact support via e-mail rather than discuss this further here, then, regarding this.

                                          VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
                                          Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
                                          Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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