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Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?

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    @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

    Can anyone imagine what could be done to seamlessly transfer routes from Wikiloc to MRA?

    just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.

    Or do i understand you wrongly?

    @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

    GPS are XML tags that define the waypoints,

    I guess you mean GPX?

    And yes, we all know that but the GPX standard has not changed since 2004 while companies like e.g. MRA may want to include data that is not in that standard. I know this can be done with XML extensions.

    By default, such extensions are not part of the GPX standard and may therefore be unreadable (or then tags will be simply ignored) by other software but the one that created those extensions.

    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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    • Drabslab Drabslab

      @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

      Can anyone imagine what could be done to seamlessly transfer routes from Wikiloc to MRA?

      just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.

      Or do i understand you wrongly?

      @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

      GPS are XML tags that define the waypoints,

      I guess you mean GPX?

      And yes, we all know that but the GPX standard has not changed since 2004 while companies like e.g. MRA may want to include data that is not in that standard. I know this can be done with XML extensions.

      By default, such extensions are not part of the GPX standard and may therefore be unreadable (or then tags will be simply ignored) by other software but the one that created those extensions.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #37

      @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

      just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.
      Or do i understand you wrongly?

      I am sorry. I speak English very poorly. I meant to imply a rhetorical question. An unanswered question. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you very much for your interest. What I wanted to imply is the advantage for users to have a MRA file system that allows us to exchange routes by file exchange.

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      • Drabslab Drabslab

        @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

        Can anyone imagine what could be done to seamlessly transfer routes from Wikiloc to MRA?

        just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.

        Or do i understand you wrongly?

        @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

        GPS are XML tags that define the waypoints,

        I guess you mean GPX?

        And yes, we all know that but the GPX standard has not changed since 2004 while companies like e.g. MRA may want to include data that is not in that standard. I know this can be done with XML extensions.

        By default, such extensions are not part of the GPX standard and may therefore be unreadable (or then tags will be simply ignored) by other software but the one that created those extensions.

        Maicro Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #38

        @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

        I guess you mean GPX?
        And yes, we all know that but the GPX standard has not changed since 2004 while companies like e.g. MRA may want to include data that is not in that standard. I know this can be done with XML extensions.
        By default, such extensions are not part of the GPX standard and may therefore be unreadable (or then tags will be simply ignored) by other software but the one that created those extensions.

        Sorry again and thank you very much.

        I wanted to give the following idea. If MRA allows to create a file -with readable ASCII code or not- to export and import routes, you could:
        -Create a custom library locally to save routes.
        -Can share routes, by email or messaging programs like WhatsApp or Telegram, directly.

        It is a proposal, nothing more.

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        • Maicro Maicro

          @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

          I guess you mean GPX?
          And yes, we all know that but the GPX standard has not changed since 2004 while companies like e.g. MRA may want to include data that is not in that standard. I know this can be done with XML extensions.
          By default, such extensions are not part of the GPX standard and may therefore be unreadable (or then tags will be simply ignored) by other software but the one that created those extensions.

          Sorry again and thank you very much.

          I wanted to give the following idea. If MRA allows to create a file -with readable ASCII code or not- to export and import routes, you could:
          -Create a custom library locally to save routes.
          -Can share routes, by email or messaging programs like WhatsApp or Telegram, directly.

          It is a proposal, nothing more.

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          Corjan Meijerink
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          @Maicro thanks for the proposal! 🙂

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          • Albert van den Elsen Albert van den Elsen

            Hi @Maicro I'm afraid everything you ask is not possible. All the characters and colors are typical MRA features.
            The only thing you can do is to download the GPX route (1.1).
            In that case you will have a copy of your route, track and POI's.

            But why are you afraid of losing data in MRA? I have been using MRA since 2016 and have never lost data.
            You only lose data if you delete routes yourself.
            MRA does not have backup servers available at this time (yet). So they cannot restore deleted data.

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            Hans Kremers
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            @Albert-van-den-Elsen

            I can understand Maicro's question.

            Accidents or desasters do happen. Either of technical nature or others. Using something as a service makes one dependent on the provider of this service that they will not lose the data, and with the data all the work that has been put into it.

            And one is dependent on the provider continuing the service. Webservices get discontinued more often then you might know. Even with the big players (Google etc) you are never certain.

            So having a method the pull out all the data you have in a platform, is reassuring..

            Regards,

            Hans

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            • Hans Kremers Hans Kremers

              @Albert-van-den-Elsen

              I can understand Maicro's question.

              Accidents or desasters do happen. Either of technical nature or others. Using something as a service makes one dependent on the provider of this service that they will not lose the data, and with the data all the work that has been put into it.

              And one is dependent on the provider continuing the service. Webservices get discontinued more often then you might know. Even with the big players (Google etc) you are never certain.

              So having a method the pull out all the data you have in a platform, is reassuring..

              Regards,

              Hans

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              @Hans-Kremers, GPX is the most universal method of transferring routes from one to another program, and if it were me, for that purpose I would use route AND tracks, since only those reassure you of being able to rebuilt a route unchanged.

              Explicitly for transferring routes, to other platforms, any closed source MRA specific file export would be senseless, because others can't import it. The only reassurance you get with that, is that you can reupload your routes completely intact to MRA, in case they lose your data. Also, with it you would be able to take old routes out of the platform to keep it plain and uncomplicated, while keeping the option to reupload them. And in itself that is a worthwhile idea.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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              • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                @Maicro thanks for the proposal! 🙂

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                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?: > thanks for the proposal!

                My thanks goes to you. I enjoy planning routes and I enjoy navigating them. One of the few applications that satisfies all needs in a simple way because it is made by passionate people. congratulations!

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                  @Hans-Kremers said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?: > @Albert-van-den-Elsen > > I can understand Maicro's question. > > Accidents or disasters happen. Either technical in nature or other. When you use something as a service, you are dependent on the provider of that service not to lose the data, and with the data all the work you put into it. > > And you depend on the provider to continue the service. Web services are discontinued more often than you might know. Even with the big providers (Google, etc.) you can never be sure. > > So it is reassuring to have a method to pull out all the data you have on a platform. > > Greetings, > > Hans

                  Thanks a lot! 🙂

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                  • Maicro Maicro

                    @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                    just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.
                    Or do i understand you wrongly?

                    I am sorry. I speak English very poorly. I meant to imply a rhetorical question. An unanswered question. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you very much for your interest. What I wanted to imply is the advantage for users to have a MRA file system that allows us to exchange routes by file exchange.

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                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                    @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                    just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.
                    Or do i understand you wrongly?

                    I am sorry. I speak English very poorly. I meant to imply a rhetorical question. An unanswered question. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you very much for your interest. What I wanted to imply is the advantage for users to have a MRA file system that allows us to exchange routes by file exchange.

                    I think your english is excellent. Butmisunderstandings do happen 😉😉

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    • Maicro Maicro

                      @Hans-Kremers said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?: > @Albert-van-den-Elsen > > I can understand Maicro's question. > > Accidents or disasters happen. Either technical in nature or other. When you use something as a service, you are dependent on the provider of that service not to lose the data, and with the data all the work you put into it. > > And you depend on the provider to continue the service. Web services are discontinued more often than you might know. Even with the big providers (Google, etc.) you can never be sure. > > So it is reassuring to have a method to pull out all the data you have on a platform. > > Greetings, > > Hans

                      Thanks a lot! 🙂

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                      @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                      @Hans-Kremers said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?: > @Albert-van-den-Elsen > > I can understand Maicro's question. > > Accidents or disasters happen. Either technical in nature or other. When you use something as a service, you are dependent on the provider of that service not to lose the data, and with the data all the work you put into it. > > And you depend on the provider to continue the service. Web services are discontinued more often than you might know. Even with the big providers (Google, etc.) you can never be sure. > > So it is reassuring to have a method to pull out all the data you have on a platform. > > Greetings, > > Hans

                      Thanks a lot! 🙂

                      For instance, take photobucket as example.

                      It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                      • Drabslab Drabslab

                        @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                        @Hans-Kremers said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?: > @Albert-van-den-Elsen > > I can understand Maicro's question. > > Accidents or disasters happen. Either technical in nature or other. When you use something as a service, you are dependent on the provider of that service not to lose the data, and with the data all the work you put into it. > > And you depend on the provider to continue the service. Web services are discontinued more often than you might know. Even with the big providers (Google, etc.) you can never be sure. > > So it is reassuring to have a method to pull out all the data you have on a platform. > > Greetings, > > Hans

                        Thanks a lot! 🙂

                        For instance, take photobucket as example.

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                        @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                        For instance, take photobucket as example.

                        Yes, but that fileformat does not help much in such a case, if it is a closed source one that cannot be imported anywhere else. The raw data (being the waypoints and a track) is already exportable.

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                        • Drabslab Drabslab

                          @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                          @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                          just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.
                          Or do i understand you wrongly?

                          I am sorry. I speak English very poorly. I meant to imply a rhetorical question. An unanswered question. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you very much for your interest. What I wanted to imply is the advantage for users to have a MRA file system that allows us to exchange routes by file exchange.

                          I think your english is excellent. Butmisunderstandings do happen 😉😉

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                          @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                          @Maicro said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                          @Drabslab said in Is there a file format that is fully compatible with MRA?:

                          just download them from wikiloc (in gpx format) and upload them to MRA routeplanner.
                          Or do i understand you wrongly?

                          I am sorry. I speak English very poorly. I meant to imply a rhetorical question. An unanswered question. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you very much for your interest. What I wanted to imply is the advantage for users to have a MRA file system that allows us to exchange routes by file exchange.

                          I think your english is excellent. Butmisunderstandings do happen 😉😉

                          My English is very poor. DeppL does a great job 😅

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