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  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

    @jean-pierre-5 said in navigon lifetime email:

    this is sneakyπŸ‘Ž

    @jean-pierre-5 Screenshot_20211231-145929_Navigation.jpg

    I don’t understand, why is this β€œsneaky”?

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    #8

    @nick-carthew I don't think there's an actual 'sneaky' reason behind it, but taking 'lifetime' to mean no later than 2098 does seem a bit arbitrary.

    It's almost like the Y2K-problem all over again, except 100 years later (so Y2.1K) πŸ™‚ At first I thought there was a technical explanation for this limit (and there still might be) but I couldn't figure out any reasonable explanation myself.

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    • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

      @nick-carthew I don't think there's an actual 'sneaky' reason behind it, but taking 'lifetime' to mean no later than 2098 does seem a bit arbitrary.

      It's almost like the Y2K-problem all over again, except 100 years later (so Y2.1K) πŸ™‚ At first I thought there was a technical explanation for this limit (and there still might be) but I couldn't figure out any reasonable explanation myself.

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      #9

      @herko-ter-horst @jean-pierre-5 I will be 137 years old in 2098 and probably not riding my motorcycle anymore πŸ€” πŸ™‚

      Always willing to help if I can.
      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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      • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

        @herko-ter-horst @jean-pierre-5 I will be 137 years old in 2098 and probably not riding my motorcycle anymore πŸ€” πŸ™‚

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        #10

        @nick-carthew treu but when i buy software its mine if i buy a car its mine whatever i buy is mine so "lifetime" is literally a dam lifetime and i did not expect that to be honest lol i mean its smart marketingwise πŸ™‚

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        • jean pierre 5undefined jean pierre 5

          @nick-carthew treu but when i buy software its mine if i buy a car its mine whatever i buy is mine so "lifetime" is literally a dam lifetime and i did not expect that to be honest lol i mean its smart marketingwise πŸ™‚

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          #11

          @jean-pierre-5 said in navigon lifetime email:

          @nick-carthew treu but when i buy software its mine if i buy a car its mine whatever i buy is mine so "lifetime" is literally a dam lifetime and i did not expect that to be honest lol i mean its smart marketingwise πŸ™‚

          You did not buy software, you bought a subscription to a service. If the platform stops, there is no software whatsoever you can still use.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Steve Lynchundefined Offline
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            #12

            β€œLifetime” is a classic marketing/legal term that very rarely means what you think it means.

            I would take a guess that 85-90% of the MRA Navigation subscribers are 35 and over, so in this instance its a bloody good offer in my opinion.

            Personally I’ll be swapping my Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro for a Zimmer frame long before my β€œLifetime” Navigation sub runs out. 😳

            Zimmer Frame.png

            I think I’ll go for the Carbon Overland adventure version when the time comes.

            Acre Carbon Overland Rollator.png

            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

              β€œLifetime” is a classic marketing/legal term that very rarely means what you think it means.

              I would take a guess that 85-90% of the MRA Navigation subscribers are 35 and over, so in this instance its a bloody good offer in my opinion.

              Personally I’ll be swapping my Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro for a Zimmer frame long before my β€œLifetime” Navigation sub runs out. 😳

              Zimmer Frame.png

              I think I’ll go for the Carbon Overland adventure version when the time comes.

              Acre Carbon Overland Rollator.png

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              #13

              @steve-lynch πŸ˜‚ When a picture or two can paint a thousand words.

              Always willing to help if I can.
              Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
              MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
              Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
              Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
              TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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              • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                @steve-lynch πŸ˜‚ When a picture or two can paint a thousand words.

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                #14

                @nick-carthew @Steve-Lynch
                I do not see the use of a walker (rollator) as the end point of the lifetime subscription.
                Maybe time for some adjustments in the MRA Nav app. I rather see a business opportunity. 😊

                800x533_248273-rollator-navigatie-3.jpg

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                  #15

                  Loving the conversation here!

                  I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                  Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                  We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                  • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                  • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                  • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                  • In app solitair minigame
                  • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                  And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    Loving the conversation here!

                    I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                    Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                    We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                    • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                    • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                    • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                    • In app solitair minigame
                    • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                    And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

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                    @corjan-meijerink said in navigon lifetime email:

                    Loving the conversation here!

                    I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                    Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                    We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                    • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                    • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                    • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                    • In app solitair minigame
                    • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                    And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

                    so, that means I can put this subscription in my will and transfer it to my children (wll, at least one of them) after my death? πŸ™‚

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                      @corjan-meijerink said in navigon lifetime email:

                      Loving the conversation here!

                      I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                      Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                      We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                      • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                      • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                      • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                      • In app solitair minigame
                      • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                      And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

                      so, that means I can put this subscription in my will and transfer it to my children (wll, at least one of them) after my death? πŸ™‚

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                      Con Hennekens
                      Alpha tester
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                      #17

                      @drabslab said in navigon lifetime email:

                      so, that means I can put this subscription in my will and transfer it to my children (wll, at least one of them) after my death? πŸ™‚

                      That is not within the definition of lifetime, even if you stretch it beyond the lifetime of the product πŸ˜‰

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        Loving the conversation here!

                        I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                        Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                        We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                        • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                        • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                        • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                        • In app solitair minigame
                        • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                        And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

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                        Stefan Hummelink
                        Alpha tester
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                        #18

                        @corjan-meijerink Kudos for this! Hahahahahahahaha I laughed so hard at this. 😁

                        Manks bu'j te bange.

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          Loving the conversation here!

                          I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                          Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                          We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                          • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                          • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                          • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                          • In app solitair minigame
                          • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                          And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

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                          Nick Carthew
                          RouteXpert
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                          #19

                          @corjan-meijerink said in navigon lifetime email:

                          Loving the conversation here!

                          I can give a simple explanation on the matter. Navigation Lifetime is just like the Gold Lifetime, you get access till eternity πŸ™‚
                          Our apps need to be updated to display something else rather than a date (such as 01-01-2099). As we now only have the possibility to display dates, an arbitrary date somewhere in the far future has been chosen πŸ˜‰

                          We are working to support the following with Navigation:

                          • Powered wheelchair vehicle selection
                          • In building navigation with preloaded senior homes
                          • POI's to quickly navigate to the restaurant or bingo
                          • In app solitair minigame
                          • Larger font size that do not require glasses

                          And way more to enable our users to use the app even after 2099!

                          Very funny @Corjan-Meijerink πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ and a good explanation, thank you πŸ‘

                          Always willing to help if I can.
                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                          • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                            @nick-carthew @Steve-Lynch
                            I do not see the use of a walker (rollator) as the end point of the lifetime subscription.
                            Maybe time for some adjustments in the MRA Nav app. I rather see a business opportunity. 😊

                            800x533_248273-rollator-navigatie-3.jpg

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                            @jack-van-tilburg said in navigon lifetime email:

                            @nick-carthew @Steve-Lynch
                            I do not see the use of a walker (rollator) as the end point of the lifetime subscription.
                            Maybe time for some adjustments in the MRA Nav app. I rather see a business opportunity. 😊

                            800x533_248273-rollator-navigatie-3.jpg

                            Great idea, I’ll design some brackets 😁

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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