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  • Corrado Miniati 0 Corrado Miniati 0

    I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
    My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

    Appunti_09-13-2025_03.jpg

    However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

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    #31

    @Corrado-Miniati-0 the easy way to understand the format is to create a map / route in MRA with some POI's
    then save the route as a CSV
    you can then inspect the csv & replicate the format
    b1574950-8de4-4a39-9d2d-6b905d861ba9-image.png
    when you create your own custom CSV to import your points, import it via the Library tab
    you will need to zoom into >=10km to see the imported POI's

    yes the lon-lat v lat-lon is an oddity of MRA, I dont know why, maybe it is a dutch thing ๐Ÿ˜Š
    the points will be displayed just not in the part of the world you are expecting to find them ๐Ÿ˜‚

    BlackView BV7100, Android 12
    Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
    No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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      Corrado Miniati 0
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      Thanks, maybe Corjan could check if the lat-lon vs lon-lat theme is a bug

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      • Corjan Meijerink Offline
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        Corjan Meijerink
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        It definitely is not a bug ๐Ÿ™‚
        Do I find it logical for a user perspective? No.
        Will I change it? No. Mainly because everyone using this is now used to that.

        I do know the origin of these things.
        Lat / lon is preferred by humans but I donโ€™t know why. Lon / lat is however mathematically the correct order ๐Ÿ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

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        • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

          It definitely is not a bug ๐Ÿ™‚
          Do I find it logical for a user perspective? No.
          Will I change it? No. Mainly because everyone using this is now used to that.

          I do know the origin of these things.
          Lat / lon is preferred by humans but I donโ€™t know why. Lon / lat is however mathematically the correct order ๐Ÿ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

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          @Corjan-Meijerink said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

          ...Lon / Lat is however mathematically the correct order ๐Ÿ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

          uhh, I believe it's not 100% correct explained.

          • The geographical length, also called longitude (international abbreviation long or LON), describes the position east or west of a defined (arbitrarily defined) north-south line, the zero meridian. It's following the vertical earth axis.
          • The geographical latitude, also called geodetic lat or (international abbreviation Lat. or LAT), describes the position north or south of a defined line round the earth, parallel to the Earth's horizontal equator.

          But the rest, Corjan - you may know better than me ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Nothing is impossible ;-)
          In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
          In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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            Also if you search for an address and what to add that to the route is will always be added at the end. So then you need to drag to the correct position.

            I agree that a shorter way to edit the position of the point in the route would be a good functionality

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              Corrado Miniati 0
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              In my case, but I think for many if not all users, it would be a very significant update.

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              • Corrado Miniati 0 Corrado Miniati 0

                I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
                My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

                Appunti_09-13-2025_03.jpg

                However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

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                @Corrado-Miniati-0 said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

                I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
                My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

                Appunti_09-13-2025_03.jpg

                However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

                If you look at an exported KML file the lat/lon is reversed when exported, so the display in Google is different as the exported file.

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                  Corrado Miniati 0
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                  @Bert, thanks for the explanation.
                  Unfortunately, the current inconvenience remains.

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                  • Corrado Miniati 0 Corrado Miniati 0

                    @Bert, thanks for the explanation.
                    Unfortunately, the current inconvenience remains.

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                    @Corrado-Miniati-0 said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

                    @Bert, thanks for the explanation.
                    Unfortunately, the current inconvenience remains.

                    yes, I agree.

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