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  • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

    @Lex.Kloet.RX I think he only has this problem when he has added a point to the route in the app, which he then has to move to the correct position using the waypoint list.
    Currently, I agree with his statement that moving the waypoints (opened via the route lab) is very jerky and it takes a long time to move the waypoint to the correct location.

    I have noticed that if you open the route via the Routes and Tracklogs menu and then open the waypoint list in the route, moving the waypoints works very quickly and smooth.

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    @Peter-Zehentreiter just insert a waypoint on the desired place and delete the other 🤷‍♂️

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    • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Lex.Kloet.RX

      @Peter-Zehentreiter just insert a waypoint on the desired place and delete the other 🤷‍♂️

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      @Lex.Kloet.RX What you say is true, but if he wants an extra one, it's fiddly on a cell phone.
      I also move points around from time to time and use this technique.

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        @Peter-Zehentreiter he mentioned "to move the point with the mouse", that is definitely not on a cell phone.

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        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

          @K-De-Weerd When you add an additional route point in between others, hover the cursor over the route line until you see a black ball, then click to add the new route point. If you need to, you can then drag the new route point to the fuel station.

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          @Nick-Carthew said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

          @K-De-Weerd When you add an additional route point in between others, hover the cursor over the route line until you see a black ball, then click to add the new route point. If you need to, you can then drag the new route point to the fuel station.

          I am aware you can add shaping points like that and you can subsequently change them into via-points, but dragging the point onto the POI does not ‘snap’ it to this POI. Would be a nice way to add a via point automatically named like and with all the info of said POI

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          • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Lex.Kloet.RX

            @Peter-Zehentreiter he mentioned "to move the point with the mouse", that is definitely not on a cell phone.

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            @Lex.Kloet.RX One-nil to you.
            But who knows which cell phones can already be operated with a mouse these days. 😁

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            • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

              @Lex.Kloet.RX One-nil to you.
              But who knows which cell phones can already be operated with a mouse these days. 😁

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              @Peter-Zehentreiter said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

              But who knows which cell phones can already be operated with a mouse these days. 😁

              They all can... Just add a BT mouse.
              And especially having a mouse on your tablet (or large phone) is working really great for planning 😉

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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              • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                @Lex.Kloet.RX One-nil to you.
                But who knows which cell phones can already be operated with a mouse these days. 😁

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                @Peter-Zehentreiter I have a Samsung S22 Ultra with pencil, it has somewhat the same function as a mouse and works also very precise. And like @Con-Hennekens writes, you can also add a BT-mouse.
                Welcome in the world of electronics 😂 (true there is a lot of electronic stuff I do not know 😉 )

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                • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                  @Lex.Kloet.RX What you say is true, but if he wants an extra one, it's fiddly on a cell phone.
                  I also move points around from time to time and use this technique.

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                  @Peter-Zehentreiter on your phone you just use your finger to click on the black line (your route) to add an intermediate waypoint. Maybe he's using the add waypoint potion which then adds it to the end of the route instead of where the petrol station is. Just click on the line 🍻

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                    I really appreciate all the feedback and am pleased to see the interest in the topic. I'll try to better explain the origins of my request.
                    From my PC on Route Lab, when I start planning a trip, I enter the coordinates of the places I'd like to visit, but without any "geographical" order. I do it randomly, following the information I find online and that I already know.
                    Consequently, there are points on the map that don't follow a logical order of the trip because I only do this once I've completed all the planning.
                    Only then do I begin to arrange the various points in a logical travel order. So far, the only way I've found is to drag the points one by one to the correct position in the "Waypoint" list with the mouse. However, if the list is very long, not all the points are visible on the screen, and dragging the mouse is time-consuming and not easy. To move a point before or after the visible list, I have to do a sort of back-and-forth with the point always clicked, otherwise the scrolling gets stuck and doesn't flow smoothly.
                    It would be much easier to be able to rename the points' placement, because the map immediately shows the logical order of my trip.
                    Just as an example, in the map below I've simulated a trip with just a few waypoints. It would already be obvious to me that:

                    • waypoint 9 should become waypoint 5
                    • waypoint 5 should become waypoint 7
                    • waypoint 7 should become waypoint 8

                    If you're thinking of an itinerary with dozens and dozens of waypoints, then it's clear that renaming the waypoints would be a very welcome option.
                    I hope Corjan considers this possibility.

                    Thanks

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                        @Corrado-Miniati-0 I have got your point, because I do planning for journeys similar.
                        The system knows about the routepoint numbers and is using it for sorting the items in the list. Also the number is populated in the list item.
                        May it would be possible, to get the populated number as editable. I see: manual sorting of a long list will then become quicker.

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                          "May it would be possible, to get the populated number as editable".
                          This is exactly my propose to Corjan.

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                          • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

                            "May it would be possible, to get the populated number as editable".
                            This is exactly my propose to Corjan.

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                            Hi @Corrado-Miniati-0 to me your method of planning a route is a bit unusual, it is not the regular way routes are planned in MRA hence why your having the pain of reordering your points
                            I am not saying your method is wrong it is just not the regular way of using MRA for creating a route

                            One suggestion that might ease your pain could be to type the coordinates of your points into a CSV file via a text editor or Excel
                            You can then upload these points into MRA as Points of Interest (POI)
                            You then start adding route (waypoints) next to each of the POI in the order you wish
                            Then you can delete remove the POI's & your left with the route you want

                            just a suggestion that may be a little less painful

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                            • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                              Hi @Corrado-Miniati-0 to me your method of planning a route is a bit unusual, it is not the regular way routes are planned in MRA hence why your having the pain of reordering your points
                              I am not saying your method is wrong it is just not the regular way of using MRA for creating a route

                              One suggestion that might ease your pain could be to type the coordinates of your points into a CSV file via a text editor or Excel
                              You can then upload these points into MRA as Points of Interest (POI)
                              You then start adding route (waypoints) next to each of the POI in the order you wish
                              Then you can delete remove the POI's & your left with the route you want

                              just a suggestion that may be a little less painful

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                              @Brian-McG that is exactly, what I wanted to type, but I was stuck in a big portion if French fries with Dutch mayonaise and homemade peanutbuttersauce. Or, as we call it in the Netherlands a "patatje oorlog" or fries at war 🙈🤣

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                                @Brian McG:
                                It may be that my planning system is unusual, but I've always found it convenient to plan this way.
                                Thanks for your suggestion, too; it's very clever, but even this way involves extra work outside of MRA, and it's probably not faster than moving waypoints from the list directly into MRA.

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                                • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

                                  @Brian McG:
                                  It may be that my planning system is unusual, but I've always found it convenient to plan this way.
                                  Thanks for your suggestion, too; it's very clever, but even this way involves extra work outside of MRA, and it's probably not faster than moving waypoints from the list directly into MRA.

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                                  @Corrado-Miniati-0 sorry you do not see the advantages of the method I proposed
                                  I do not think it is extra work,
                                  currently you type in the coordinates in MRA, in the proposed method you type them in Excel & just import the csv
                                  so now you are in the same state as you would be with your current method

                                  with your method you now have to sort the order of all your points
                                  with the proposed method all you have to do is click next to each of the POI in the order you wish the route to be
                                  IMO it would be a lot faster & a lot easier than your current method, especially if you have a large number of points

                                  I hope you try it & see, there are other advantages to having your points captured in a POI list
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                                    Thanks so much for your support.
                                    I tried, but it doesn't work. Could you please show me how to set the coordinates in Excel and what CSV format you choose for saving?

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                                      Your CSV need to be Long, Lat and a description of the POI.
                                      Here's one of mine.

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                                        Your CSV need to be Long, Lat and a description of the POI.
                                        Here's one of mine.

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                                        This is what the uploaded POI's look like.

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