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  • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

    @Nomko-Nomden

    Ik heb ChatGPT gebruikt en daarbinnen de ChatBot "Travel Guide". Helaas kun je die maar zeer beperkt gratis gebruiken. Dus gisteravond moest ik wachten om verder te kunnen.

    Maar uiteindelijk wordt er een GPX file gegenereerd en een KML file op mijn verzoek om in Google Earth e.a. te kunnen zien.

    Zie hieronder wat ik bedoel met "Travel Guide">

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    @Dikke-Wim you can also use Qgis to harvest POI's from OSM mapping.

    This is Castles for UK and Ireland.ksnip_20250113-163911.jpg

    You need two add ins to get the information QuickOSM
    Which gives a dialog like this.

    QuickOSM.jpg
    And POI exporter which allows export as a GPX file that MRA can read.

    POI Exporter.jpg

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    • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

      @Dikke-Wim you can also use Qgis to harvest POI's from OSM mapping.

      This is Castles for UK and Ireland.ksnip_20250113-163911.jpg

      You need two add ins to get the information QuickOSM
      Which gives a dialog like this.

      QuickOSM.jpg
      And POI exporter which allows export as a GPX file that MRA can read.

      POI Exporter.jpg

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      #10

      @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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      • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

        @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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        #11

        @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

        Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

        1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

        Overpass-1.jpg

        1. export as gpx

        Overpass-2.jpg

        1. upload into MRA

        Overpass-3.jpg

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        • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

          @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

          Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

          1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

          Overpass-1.jpg

          1. export as gpx

          Overpass-2.jpg

          1. upload into MRA

          Overpass-3.jpg

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          #12

          I do not think @Greenham want to harvest POI's but to put his own POI's into MRA in bulk.
          I use Excel to make them and then convert to GPX.
          MRA only uses the description but If I load them into my Garmin I get the other fields also. I am now busy to find out how to bulk import a GPX into my little housemade tool.

          POIEXcel.JPG

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          • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

            @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

            Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

            1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

            Overpass-1.jpg

            1. export as gpx

            Overpass-2.jpg

            1. upload into MRA

            Overpass-3.jpg

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            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @Martin-Wilcke
            Thank you very much! It seems to work great....
            However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

            Do you have any idea how to fix this? See screendumps below.

            See e.g. Cornwall with many castles
            e39f2ddb-5d1a-447d-9a07-6b545ca257d5-image.png

            Cornwall without any castles
            9d561261-31ca-4173-94b3-d2512543137b-image.png

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            • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

              @Martin-Wilcke
              Thank you very much! It seems to work great....
              However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

              Do you have any idea how to fix this? See screendumps below.

              See e.g. Cornwall with many castles
              e39f2ddb-5d1a-447d-9a07-6b545ca257d5-image.png

              Cornwall without any castles
              9d561261-31ca-4173-94b3-d2512543137b-image.png

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              Martin Wilcke
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @Dikke-Wim said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

              However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

              Hmmm... Maybe you need to zoom in?

              Overpass:
              UK Castles 1.jpg

              Imported:
              UK Castles 2.jpg

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              • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                @Dikke-Wim said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                Hmmm... Maybe you need to zoom in?

                Overpass:
                UK Castles 1.jpg

                Imported:
                UK Castles 2.jpg

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                wrote on last edited by Dikke Wim
                #15

                @Martin-Wilcke

                Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                  @Martin-Wilcke

                  Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                  Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                  Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                  1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                  No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                  e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                  the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                  8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @Dikke-Wim

                  OK - let's focus on "Crane Castle" as an example; it's this one:

                  crane 1.jpg

                  Please have a look at the GPX you've uploaded with an editor and search for "Crane", there should be a match like this:

                  crane 2.jpg

                  In MRA, search for "Portreath" and zoom in to a scale of 1 km / 1 mile or less:

                  crane 3.jpg

                  Does it show up?

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                  • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                    @Martin-Wilcke

                    Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                    Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                    Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                    1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                    No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                    e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                    the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                    8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                    #17

                    @Dikke-Wim

                    And one more note:

                    I have just noticed that "historic=castle" can be modelled both as a ‘node’ (point) and as a ‘way’ (path, here in the sense of area). They appear as yellow dots for nodes and red dots for ways/areas.

                    That's why my example query node ["historic"="castle"]; is not ideal, because it only finds castles that are modelled as a point.

                    Better, as in your example, is nwr ["historic"="castle"]; as it includes nodes, ways and relations.

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                    • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                      @Martin-Wilcke

                      Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                      Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                      Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                      1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                      No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                      e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                      the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                      8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @Dikke-Wim

                      OK - I got it.

                      You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                      Here's the result

                      https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                      for the query:

                      UK Castles 3.jpg

                      Sorry for the confusion!

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                      • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                        @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #19

                        @Dikke-Wim Somewhat less work than the method you describe👍

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                        • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                          @Dikke-Wim

                          OK - I got it.

                          You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                          Here's the result

                          https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                          for the query:

                          UK Castles 3.jpg

                          Sorry for the confusion!

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                          Dikke Wim
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          @Martin-Wilcke

                          Thanks Martin. It works now much better (see below).
                          f45a36c1-6b9e-41bd-ba3c-03809ef23506-image.png

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                          • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                            @Dikke-Wim Somewhat less work than the method you describe👍

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                            #21

                            @Mzokk

                            What method do you mean? I don't get it.
                            For me: the easier the better!

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                            • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                              @Martin-Wilcke

                              Thanks Martin. It works now much better (see below).
                              f45a36c1-6b9e-41bd-ba3c-03809ef23506-image.png

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              @Dikke-Wim
                              👍

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                              • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                @Dikke-Wim

                                OK - I got it.

                                You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                                Here's the result

                                https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                                for the query:

                                UK Castles 3.jpg

                                Sorry for the confusion!

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                                #23

                                @Martin-Wilcke this is amazing never knew how to use this feature! It would be of great help if the MRA team @Corjan-Meijerink could make a YouTube tutorial on this. 🙏

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                                • BertMundefined BertM

                                  I do not think @Greenham want to harvest POI's but to put his own POI's into MRA in bulk.
                                  I use Excel to make them and then convert to GPX.
                                  MRA only uses the description but If I load them into my Garmin I get the other fields also. I am now busy to find out how to bulk import a GPX into my little housemade tool.

                                  POIEXcel.JPG

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                                  #24

                                  @BertM

                                  Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

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                                  • Greenhamundefined Greenham

                                    @BertM

                                    Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

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                                    @Greenham said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                                    @BertM

                                    Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

                                    As another member of this forum asked me the same because I replied here, I have been dusting off my 20 year old programming skills in Excel VBA 🙂

                                    the today status of the tools is the following

                                    • Import simple POI GPX files into Excel

                                    • Edit the imported file and add Symbol, Description, Street, Phone etc for import into Garmin devices

                                    • Export the POI file to GPX format

                                    • Double Click on the filled in row and the POI wil open in Google maps.

                                    Excel file with Ribbon (KML does not work yet)
                                    MOHO hotels GPX imported into Excel
                                    *

                                    55fe76c9-4529-4956-aa88-187b6e52461c-image.png

                                    3rd Item in the list selected and button "Show in Google Maps" selected

                                    e23dc9f7-65d3-43b3-9234-a73992e056d5-image.png

                                    Import in MRA from GPX file
                                    108d4b72-58e8-4f93-996c-5a584a2aa1d3-image.png

                                    Import in Basecamp with selected symbol
                                    c26cd62c-f8ee-4dff-9e24-924ad4cc7c21-image.png

                                    Data added in Excel and transferred to Garmin GPX, see also the different symbols in the same GPX

                                    c3212141-58ca-4b2b-b383-37443fec46e0-image.png

                                    Send me your email in a PB and I send you the current file with the following status:

                                    • Made and only tested in Excel/Windows10

                                    • Error handeling is still poor in the progarmming

                                    • Program as is, it works on my system, not tested on other equipment.

                                    • Program is made in MS VBA and not tested in other programs.

                                    regards,
                                    Bert

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