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    Nomko Nomden
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    Da's heel apart, die ik het in ChatGPT dan krijg ik dit te zien:

    24dfe37a-c4a1-491a-b817-8b341a2e64d4-image.png

    Geen .gpx bestand zoals bij @Dikke-Wim. Doe ik iets verkeerd?

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    • Greenhamundefined Greenham

      Is there an easy way to bulk upload POI's? I am referring to the use of a spreadsheet/CVS that I would properly add all my desired POI's into a spreadsheet then upload them ALL?

      It would be really handy to have a formatted example of a spreadsheet/CVS with all the proper headings for easy population. They could be easily shared, added too etc.

      It has to be fairly easy as this is just one big database.

      Am I right?

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      #6

      @Greenham said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

      Is there an easy way to bulk upload POI's? I am referring to the use of a spreadsheet/CVS that I would properly add all my desired POI's into a spreadsheet then upload them ALL?

      It would be really handy to have a formatted example of a spreadsheet/CVS with all the proper headings for easy population. They could be easily shared, added too etc.

      It has to be fairly easy as this is just one big database.

      Am I right?

      Yes that is possible, but the POI in MRA is quite rudimentary, you can only enter a name in the database.
      here is an example of a file that you can read in GPS Visulizer for example and convert to GPX.

      Exceldata.JPG

      https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert_input?convert_format=gpx

      For myself I have made a VBA program in Excel that converts the above data into a GPX file, which I upload in MRA.
      The reason for this is that MRA has some trouble with the CSV files and that Excel subconsciously converts my CSV numbers.
      I am currently busy converting the Excel VBA to Openoffice and expanding the GPX export so that I can enter more data such as warnings and heights that my Garmin device can use.

      Please note that you have to divide the different POIs, you cannot change the category in MRA. they all get the same icon.
      Below my (Chaotic) own POI library, by uploading them differently you can use different icons.

      Exceldata2.JPG

      BertM

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      • Greenhamundefined Greenham

        Is there an easy way to bulk upload POI's? I am referring to the use of a spreadsheet/CVS that I would properly add all my desired POI's into a spreadsheet then upload them ALL?

        It would be really handy to have a formatted example of a spreadsheet/CVS with all the proper headings for easy population. They could be easily shared, added too etc.

        It has to be fairly easy as this is just one big database.

        Am I right?

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        Adrian Avram
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        @Greenham I have a POI file that I am constantly updating and I use this website. I upload the file, add points, then download the new updated file.
        https://www.poieditor.com/

        Best regards,
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        • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

          Da's heel apart, die ik het in ChatGPT dan krijg ik dit te zien:

          24dfe37a-c4a1-491a-b817-8b341a2e64d4-image.png

          Geen .gpx bestand zoals bij @Dikke-Wim. Doe ik iets verkeerd?

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          wrote on last edited by Dikke Wim
          #8

          @Nomko-Nomden

          Ik heb ChatGPT gebruikt en daarbinnen de ChatBot "Travel Guide". Helaas kun je die maar zeer beperkt gratis gebruiken. Dus gisteravond moest ik wachten om verder te kunnen.

          Maar uiteindelijk wordt er een GPX file gegenereerd en een KML file op mijn verzoek om in Google Earth e.a. te kunnen zien.

          Zie hieronder wat ik bedoel met "Travel Guide">

          0397d99d-08be-4875-b9f2-1e811e769ae7-image.png

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          • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

            @Nomko-Nomden

            Ik heb ChatGPT gebruikt en daarbinnen de ChatBot "Travel Guide". Helaas kun je die maar zeer beperkt gratis gebruiken. Dus gisteravond moest ik wachten om verder te kunnen.

            Maar uiteindelijk wordt er een GPX file gegenereerd en een KML file op mijn verzoek om in Google Earth e.a. te kunnen zien.

            Zie hieronder wat ik bedoel met "Travel Guide">

            0397d99d-08be-4875-b9f2-1e811e769ae7-image.png

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            Mzokk
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            #9

            @Dikke-Wim you can also use Qgis to harvest POI's from OSM mapping.

            This is Castles for UK and Ireland.ksnip_20250113-163911.jpg

            You need two add ins to get the information QuickOSM
            Which gives a dialog like this.

            QuickOSM.jpg
            And POI exporter which allows export as a GPX file that MRA can read.

            POI Exporter.jpg

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            • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

              @Dikke-Wim you can also use Qgis to harvest POI's from OSM mapping.

              This is Castles for UK and Ireland.ksnip_20250113-163911.jpg

              You need two add ins to get the information QuickOSM
              Which gives a dialog like this.

              QuickOSM.jpg
              And POI exporter which allows export as a GPX file that MRA can read.

              POI Exporter.jpg

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              #10

              @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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              • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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                #11

                @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

                Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

                1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

                Overpass-1.jpg

                1. export as gpx

                Overpass-2.jpg

                1. upload into MRA

                Overpass-3.jpg

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                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                  @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

                  Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

                  1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

                  Overpass-1.jpg

                  1. export as gpx

                  Overpass-2.jpg

                  1. upload into MRA

                  Overpass-3.jpg

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                  #12

                  I do not think @Greenham want to harvest POI's but to put his own POI's into MRA in bulk.
                  I use Excel to make them and then convert to GPX.
                  MRA only uses the description but If I load them into my Garmin I get the other fields also. I am now busy to find out how to bulk import a GPX into my little housemade tool.

                  POIEXcel.JPG

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                  • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                    @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

                    Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

                    1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

                    Overpass-1.jpg

                    1. export as gpx

                    Overpass-2.jpg

                    1. upload into MRA

                    Overpass-3.jpg

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @Martin-Wilcke
                    Thank you very much! It seems to work great....
                    However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                    Do you have any idea how to fix this? See screendumps below.

                    See e.g. Cornwall with many castles
                    e39f2ddb-5d1a-447d-9a07-6b545ca257d5-image.png

                    Cornwall without any castles
                    9d561261-31ca-4173-94b3-d2512543137b-image.png

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                    • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                      @Martin-Wilcke
                      Thank you very much! It seems to work great....
                      However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                      Do you have any idea how to fix this? See screendumps below.

                      See e.g. Cornwall with many castles
                      e39f2ddb-5d1a-447d-9a07-6b545ca257d5-image.png

                      Cornwall without any castles
                      9d561261-31ca-4173-94b3-d2512543137b-image.png

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @Dikke-Wim said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                      However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                      Hmmm... Maybe you need to zoom in?

                      Overpass:
                      UK Castles 1.jpg

                      Imported:
                      UK Castles 2.jpg

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                      • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                        @Dikke-Wim said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                        However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                        Hmmm... Maybe you need to zoom in?

                        Overpass:
                        UK Castles 1.jpg

                        Imported:
                        UK Castles 2.jpg

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                        wrote on last edited by Dikke Wim
                        #15

                        @Martin-Wilcke

                        Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                        Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                        Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                        1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                        No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                        e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                        the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                        8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                        • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                          @Martin-Wilcke

                          Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                          Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                          Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                          1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                          No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                          e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                          the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                          8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                          Martin Wilcke
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                          #16

                          @Dikke-Wim

                          OK - let's focus on "Crane Castle" as an example; it's this one:

                          crane 1.jpg

                          Please have a look at the GPX you've uploaded with an editor and search for "Crane", there should be a match like this:

                          crane 2.jpg

                          In MRA, search for "Portreath" and zoom in to a scale of 1 km / 1 mile or less:

                          crane 3.jpg

                          Does it show up?

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                          • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                            @Martin-Wilcke

                            Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                            Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                            Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                            1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                            No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                            e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                            the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                            8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                            Martin Wilcke
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                            #17

                            @Dikke-Wim

                            And one more note:

                            I have just noticed that "historic=castle" can be modelled both as a ‘node’ (point) and as a ‘way’ (path, here in the sense of area). They appear as yellow dots for nodes and red dots for ways/areas.

                            That's why my example query node ["historic"="castle"]; is not ideal, because it only finds castles that are modelled as a point.

                            Better, as in your example, is nwr ["historic"="castle"]; as it includes nodes, ways and relations.

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                            • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                              @Martin-Wilcke

                              Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                              Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                              Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                              1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                              No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                              e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                              the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                              8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                              @Dikke-Wim

                              OK - I got it.

                              You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                              Here's the result

                              https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                              for the query:

                              UK Castles 3.jpg

                              Sorry for the confusion!

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                              • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                                @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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                                Mzokk
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                                #19

                                @Dikke-Wim Somewhat less work than the method you describe👍

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                                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                  @Dikke-Wim

                                  OK - I got it.

                                  You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                                  Here's the result

                                  https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                                  for the query:

                                  UK Castles 3.jpg

                                  Sorry for the confusion!

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                                  @Martin-Wilcke

                                  Thanks Martin. It works now much better (see below).
                                  f45a36c1-6b9e-41bd-ba3c-03809ef23506-image.png

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                                    @Dikke-Wim Somewhat less work than the method you describe👍

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                                    @Mzokk

                                    What method do you mean? I don't get it.
                                    For me: the easier the better!

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                                    • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                                      @Martin-Wilcke

                                      Thanks Martin. It works now much better (see below).
                                      f45a36c1-6b9e-41bd-ba3c-03809ef23506-image.png

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                                      #22

                                      @Dikke-Wim
                                      👍

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                                      • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                        @Dikke-Wim

                                        OK - I got it.

                                        You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                                        Here's the result

                                        https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                                        for the query:

                                        UK Castles 3.jpg

                                        Sorry for the confusion!

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                                        @Martin-Wilcke this is amazing never knew how to use this feature! It would be of great help if the MRA team @Corjan-Meijerink could make a YouTube tutorial on this. 🙏

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                                        • BertMundefined BertM

                                          I do not think @Greenham want to harvest POI's but to put his own POI's into MRA in bulk.
                                          I use Excel to make them and then convert to GPX.
                                          MRA only uses the description but If I load them into my Garmin I get the other fields also. I am now busy to find out how to bulk import a GPX into my little housemade tool.

                                          POIEXcel.JPG

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                                          @BertM

                                          Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

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