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How to Navigate Route as a Track?

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  • Lenny Oundefined Offline
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    Lenny O
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    #1

    Hello, folks!
    In the 4.3.4 release I read that you can navigate Route as a TRack, but how exactly do you do it?
    Where do you make that choice?
    Thanks!

    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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      Volker Lattauer
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      #2

      I have the same question. If I pick an existing route with Via and Shaping points, where do I tell my android to navigate as a track ?

      My understanding, so far, was, that tracks do not have waypoints other than Start and Finish.

      You say one can proceed to the next logical point on the track - how can that happen when there are no points?

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      • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

        Hello, folks!
        In the 4.3.4 release I read that you can navigate Route as a TRack, but how exactly do you do it?
        Where do you make that choice?
        Thanks!

        Rob Verhoeffundefined Offline
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        Rob Verhoeff
        Alpha tester
        wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
        #3

        @Lenny-O Go to the nav-settings in the menu.

        Menu (top left) > Settings (profile icon top right) > Navigation setting > Functional. See picture below. You can choose to disable 'Automatic recalculations'. In that case you have to navigate back to the track yourself if you deviate. Set toggle to green to allow track navigation for routes.

        Route als track.jpeg

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          Lenny O
          wrote on last edited by Lenny O
          #4

          Thank you, Rob!
          That helps!
          Though I would think that it may be way more convenient to make that decision on the individual Route level. Current way makes it sort of "Global".
          I mean that once you call the Route on the screen, just before you start Navigating, would be nice to choose how you want to do it, as a Route or as a Track.
          Also, will the voice guidance work when navigating Route as a Track?

          Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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          • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

            Thank you, Rob!
            That helps!
            Though I would think that it may be way more convenient to make that decision on the individual Route level. Current way makes it sort of "Global".
            I mean that once you call the Route on the screen, just before you start Navigating, would be nice to choose how you want to do it, as a Route or as a Track.
            Also, will the voice guidance work when navigating Route as a Track?

            Herko ter Horstundefined Offline
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            Herko ter Horst
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Lenny-O said in How to Navigate Route as a Track?:

            Also, will the voice guidance work when navigating Route as a Track?

            Yes, it will.

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            • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

              @Lenny-O said in How to Navigate Route as a Track?:

              Also, will the voice guidance work when navigating Route as a Track?

              Yes, it will.

              Thomas Neumeyerundefined Offline
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              Thomas Neumeyer
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Herko-ter-Horst Sorry for the maybe dumb question. I can not change the settings. The selection switches are grey.

              Regards

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              • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                Thank you, Rob!
                That helps!
                Though I would think that it may be way more convenient to make that decision on the individual Route level. Current way makes it sort of "Global".
                I mean that once you call the Route on the screen, just before you start Navigating, would be nice to choose how you want to do it, as a Route or as a Track.
                Also, will the voice guidance work when navigating Route as a Track?

                Rob Verhoeffundefined Offline
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                Rob Verhoeff
                Alpha tester
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Lenny-O said in How to Navigate Route as a Track?:

                I mean that once you call the Route on the screen, just before you start Navigating, would be nice to choose how you want to do it, as a Route or as a Track.

                This is how it used to be! Now, you just flip the toggle. Why would you want to ride a route as a track one day and as a regular route the next? In fact, I think Iโ€™ll soon be using route navigation less and switching entirely to track navigation. Iโ€™ll create the route in the planner, and when you start navigating, you can be sure youโ€™re following your route exactly as you planned it.

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                • Lenny Oundefined Offline
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                  Lenny O
                  wrote on last edited by Lenny O
                  #8

                  Thank you, Herko and Rob!
                  Rob, I don't know if I would always want to ... did not try it yet.
                  But what are we losing if we switch to the Track navigation vs Route navigation?
                  There has to be something... ๐Ÿ™‚ Comments on via points? Pictures? IDK...

                  BTW, is this option Membership Level related?

                  Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                  • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Thomas Neumeyer

                    @Herko-ter-Horst Sorry for the maybe dumb question. I can not change the settings. The selection switches are grey.

                    Regards

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                    Lenny O
                    wrote on last edited by Lenny O
                    #9

                    @Thomas-Neumeyer check the version of the app you have. Maybe you need to reload? Also, are you signed in?

                    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                    • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Thomas Neumeyer

                      @Herko-ter-Horst Sorry for the maybe dumb question. I can not change the settings. The selection switches are grey.

                      Regards

                      Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                      Corjan Meijerink
                      Developer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @Thomas-Neumeyer they cannot be changed while navigating ๐Ÿ˜‰
                      Open the settings when you arenโ€™t driving!

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        @Thomas-Neumeyer they cannot be changed while navigating ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        Open the settings when you arenโ€™t driving!

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                        Lenny O
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Corjan-Meijerink Corjan, does the option to navigate a Route as a Track have anything to do with the Membership Level?
                        Thanks!

                        Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          @Thomas-Neumeyer they cannot be changed while navigating ๐Ÿ˜‰
                          Open the settings when you arenโ€™t driving!

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                          Thomas Neumeyer
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                          @Corjan-Meijerink I was sitting on the couch ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                            @Corjan-Meijerink Corjan, does the option to navigate a Route as a Track have anything to do with the Membership Level?
                            Thanks!

                            Rob Verhoeffundefined Offline
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                            Rob Verhoeff
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Lenny-O I presume you have a subscription to the navigationpart, so no...

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                            • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                              @Corjan-Meijerink Corjan, does the option to navigate a Route as a Track have anything to do with the Membership Level?
                              Thanks!

                              Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                              Corjan Meijerink
                              Developer
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                              @Lenny-O no, definitely not ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Thomas Neumeyer

                                @Corjan-Meijerink I was sitting on the couch ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                Con Hennekens
                                Alpha tester
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                                #15

                                @Thomas-Neumeyer, that maybe, but you started the navigation module ๐Ÿ˜‰ In cannot be changed while navigation is running.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink Corjan, does the option to navigate a Route as a Track have anything to do with the Membership Level?
                                  Thanks!

                                  Con Hennekensundefined Online
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                                  Con Hennekens
                                  Alpha tester
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Lenny-O, no, it does not. Its a just an extra feature of the existing subscription ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                    Maybe I'm doing it wrong. But if I deviate from the route (as a track) with some shaping points, it still wants to reroute me back. I was stubborn and after around 10 km it told me it skipped that waypoint. Is it expected behavior. Tomtom for instance just tells me closest way back to the track in case I deviate.

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                                    • Martin Kjellundefined Martin Kjell

                                      Maybe I'm doing it wrong. But if I deviate from the route (as a track) with some shaping points, it still wants to reroute me back. I was stubborn and after around 10 km it told me it skipped that waypoint. Is it expected behavior. Tomtom for instance just tells me closest way back to the track in case I deviate.

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                                      @Martin-Kjell, Yes that's expected behaviour, if you keep being stubborn and don't follow the suggestion... ๐Ÿ˜‰ What you need to do in such a case, is long-press your own chosen point of re-entry. Then it will guide you to there, insead of back to a point you obviously don't want.

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                        @Martin-Kjell, Yes that's expected behaviour, if you keep being stubborn and don't follow the suggestion... ๐Ÿ˜‰ What you need to do in such a case, is long-press your own chosen point of re-entry. Then it will guide you to there, insead of back to a point you obviously don't want.

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                                        @Con-Hennekens Ok Thanks! But reading the manual states that shaping points will be ingored during "route as a track". And Waypoint (via points) is never ignored. A bit contradictaional to me, or (trying to be humble) I'm probably misinterpreting the instructions. In other words, route as a track does not seem to ignore shaping points.
                                        E.g. I would like to point out a route with say for instance 10 shaping points. But circumstances like weather, change of mind, road work etc. makes me pick another route and needed to ignore shaping point #4. Since Ive passed it I would no longer be interested in that one since it's just a shaping point. But MRA "Route as a track" tries to guide me back and after a few tries gives up. For me, theres no difference from normal route. What am I missing? Eager to learn and understand.

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                                        • Martin Kjellundefined Martin Kjell

                                          @Con-Hennekens Ok Thanks! But reading the manual states that shaping points will be ingored during "route as a track". And Waypoint (via points) is never ignored. A bit contradictaional to me, or (trying to be humble) I'm probably misinterpreting the instructions. In other words, route as a track does not seem to ignore shaping points.
                                          E.g. I would like to point out a route with say for instance 10 shaping points. But circumstances like weather, change of mind, road work etc. makes me pick another route and needed to ignore shaping point #4. Since Ive passed it I would no longer be interested in that one since it's just a shaping point. But MRA "Route as a track" tries to guide me back and after a few tries gives up. For me, theres no difference from normal route. What am I missing? Eager to learn and understand.

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                                          @Martin-Kjell said:

                                          route as a track does not seem to ignore shaping points.

                                          But it does. Instead of leading you back to a shaping point, it leads you back to the track. Depending on the density of your shaping points and the layout of the roads, the difference can sometimes be not so obvious.

                                          The way you describe sound perfectly logical. Navigation will lead you back to the track, sometimes that can be through a previous route point, but that does not mean it took it into consideration. Since MRA is a scenic navigation app, it tries to have you drive as much of the preplanned route as possible and only skipps parts of it after multiple redirections.

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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