Volume too low
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@Thomas-Keßler What I do know is that you must not use the Siri voices. Just choose a different (enhanced)voice.
In my car the MRA voice is as loud as the media from my car entertainment system.@Rob-Verhoeff
I also have the volume being too low. Phone volume at max and also the Headset at max volume. No Siri voice. Noise remains very low.
In the past with the old app this was fine.
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The old app was indeed better.
TomTom Go is better
Waze is better.They all use(d) their own voice engine.
MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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The old app was indeed better.
TomTom Go is better
Waze is better.They all use(d) their own voice engine.
MRA could change this for the current app but i doubt if they would. I think (but totally not sure) they won't because a separate engine like the old app had, will not work with some functions of the current app. Like reading text which you can type in the info box.
Maybe @Corjan-Meijerink could clarify this.@M-Schrijver
The new app is much better then the old app and all the others, only the volume on some phones is low. But I’m sure it will be fixed
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To add my experience to this debate:
I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.
So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
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To add my experience to this debate:
I use an iPhone 11 with iOS 17.4.1
I have downloaded the Serena (Premium) system voice from Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content > Voices > English.
And I use a Cardo Scala PackTalk Bold with the latest firmware as my headset with the correct priority setting for audio source.If I am riding on my own with no one connected to the intercom I hear navigation instructions loud and clear, not at top volume of the Cardo.
As soon as I am connected to another riders intercom the navigation instruction are barely audible, I hear the first part of the first word of the instruction and then the voice fades away.I experience exactly the same behaviour when I am connected to my TomTom Rider 500 or Google maps on my phone.
So for me, I don't see a problem with the phone voice or with MRA Navigation Next.
The problem is caused by the Cardo headset.No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
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No problems with the intercom, and the Sena SRL 2 connected to my phone and the XT2 or XT.
Only the instructions of Next are to low, and that was much better before.@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.You don’t have to be Sherlock
️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now) -
@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.You don’t have to be Sherlock
️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?
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@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
Does your Cardo also use a meshnetwork connection, or do you connect to another Cardo user via Bluetooth?
@Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.
Always willing to help if I can.
Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now) -
You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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You can adjust this to some extend in the Cardo app (background volume).
@M-Schrijver Yes, thank you I have the app.
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA
Yes, that may be the case with your setup, I was pointing out that not all issues with the volume are related to MRA Navigation Next. The volume for turn by turn instructions a notes is very loud when I don’t have an intercom connection.
My devices and settings are different to yours and so we have a different experience. As far as I am concerned, the app volume is fine except when I am connected to another intercom. The same happens with my TomTom or Google Maps, turn by turn instructions cannot be heard when the intercom is connected but perfectly clear when not.You don’t have to be Sherlock
️ Holmes to work out that in my case the Cardo is at fault.I don’t think Sena is the problem, I tried another app and that works fine, volume is loud and clear also connected to the XT2 and XT.
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@Rob-Verhoeff Yes, it connects with mesh or Bluetooth and I’ve tried both. Both show the same behaviour.
@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
Both show the same behaviour.
Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge...
BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey) -
@Nick-Carthew said in Volume too low:
Both show the same behaviour.
Then the "problem-solver" has a nice challenge...
Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...
By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces
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Regarding the volume issue, it remains quiet from the developers' side...
By the way, I use MRA and Android Auto in my car, I don't have a motorcycle and therefore don't have all those interfaces
@Patrick-S0 said in Volume too low:
it remains quiet from the developers' side...
Holiday trip... back soon!
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My (working) setup:
I use an Android phone (Nothing phone 2a) which is quite close to bare Android, I think.
With this, I can increase the volume above normal limits (for which I get a warning from the phone). With this volume level, I'm able to hear MRA and Spotify in a good level, although I'm using Earplugs.
The audio system is Cardo Packtalk Edge.
The iPhone / iOS does not allow this extended increase of the volume I think. Also separate adjustment of volumes per function is not possible on iOS.
Regards,
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idd het geluid is bijna niet verstaanbaar, het is ook geen probleem wat nog maar kort bestaat, vooralsnog lijkt het niet opgelost te worden.
Aan de ontwikkelaars dus de vraag: Wanneer is het eens opgelost?
Als ik met Google Maps navigeer heb ik voldoende geluid bij de gesproken instructies, dus het ligt niet aan de telefoon of headset, heb al vanalles geprobeerd, maar de mra navigatie blijft de instructies fluisteren
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idd het geluid is bijna niet verstaanbaar, het is ook geen probleem wat nog maar kort bestaat, vooralsnog lijkt het niet opgelost te worden.
Aan de ontwikkelaars dus de vraag: Wanneer is het eens opgelost?
Als ik met Google Maps navigeer heb ik voldoende geluid bij de gesproken instructies, dus het ligt niet aan de telefoon of headset, heb al vanalles geprobeerd, maar de mra navigatie blijft de instructies fluisteren
@marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
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@marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.
@Con-Hennekens said in Volume too low:
@marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.
Bij mij dus niet, heb het deze week nog geprobeerd nadat ik een route aan het rijden was met mra in de auto en onderweg ( ja ik weet het dat kan ook met mra ) met Google Maps een restaurant zocht en met google er naar toe navigeerde, het geluid was toen duidelijk verstaanbaar en later toen ik weer met mra navigeerde was het op fluisterniveau
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@Con-Hennekens said in Volume too low:
@marc-van-der-heijden, als ik met GMaps navigeer doet zich exact hetzelfde probleem voor met het stem volume.
Bij mij dus niet, heb het deze week nog geprobeerd nadat ik een route aan het rijden was met mra in de auto en onderweg ( ja ik weet het dat kan ook met mra ) met Google Maps een restaurant zocht en met google er naar toe navigeerde, het geluid was toen duidelijk verstaanbaar en later toen ik weer met mra navigeerde was het op fluisterniveau
afgelopen 2 weken MRA Next gebruikt op ulefone armor x10 pro en mijn backup samsung a40. ik gebruik geen headset of andere zaken, gewoon volume van de telefoon. op ulefone prima en op samsung te laag. mijn conclusie is dan het ligt aan hardware en niet aan MRA Next app.
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MRA Next is gebaseerd op het HereWeGo platform. Het HereWeGo platform leunt op de als standaard ingestelde TTS engine van je smartphone voor de aanwijzingen. Het heeft geen eigen stemmen.
Iedere Android telefoon heeft de Google TTS engine aan boord. Met deze Engine zal MRA Next (en HereWeGo) op iedere telefoon hetzelfde klinken met hetzelfde volume.
Veel Android telefoon hebben een eigen skin, zoals OneUI bij Samsung. Met deze skin kan er ook een aparte TTS engine meekomen wel dan als default ingesteld wordt. Dit zorgt ervoor dat er zoveel verschil tussen de verschillende telefoons zit.Kortom het is NIET MRA die dit verschil veroorzaakt maar je eigen telefoon.
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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