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Waypoints being skipped - not what I want to happen

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  • David 38
    David 38
    David 38
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    I have been using the MRA web site to create routes for almost 10 years. I've used these routes successfully for my Garmin Zumo 550 and Harley-Davidson Boom (2015).

    I recently started using the MRA navigation app. I've been creating very simple routes on the MRA web site to verify my understanding of the app. Unfortunately I have not yet figured out how to use waypoints or via points or shaping points such that MRA nav redirects me to them if I miss the calculated turn to reach them.

    I've got the MRA nav app setting for 'auto skip of waypoints' turned OFF. But regardless of whether I've created a waypoint as 'via' ('hand') or 'shaping' (sort of a balloon), every time I miss a turn to take me to them, they get skipped.

    Do I need to update a setting in the app ? Create my routes differently ? Other ?

    Thanks.

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    • MotoCon
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      This strikes me as odd. Skipping waypoints if that setting is off is never mentioned here. Especially skipping VIA points automatically is something that can't (should not) happen.

      However version 6 of the app is going to be released soon, and the skipping algorithm has been extensively improved, so I would wait for that.

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      • MotoCon MotoCon

        This strikes me as odd. Skipping waypoints if that setting is off is never mentioned here. Especially skipping VIA points automatically is something that can't (should not) happen.

        However version 6 of the app is going to be released soon, and the skipping algorithm has been extensively improved, so I would wait for that.

        Dave J 0
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        Dave J 0
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        #3

        @MotoCon I have had this happen to me with V5 but also with V6 on occasion. I have not been able to determine if there is a trigger apart from being near the destination with a final via point before. I need to do some more testing.

        Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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        • MotoCon MotoCon

          This strikes me as odd. Skipping waypoints if that setting is off is never mentioned here. Especially skipping VIA points automatically is something that can't (should not) happen.

          However version 6 of the app is going to be released soon, and the skipping algorithm has been extensively improved, so I would wait for that.

          David 38
          David 38
          David 38
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          @MotoCon

          Here is a picture of my route. I purposefully put via points 3,5, and 7 on the route just to test being re-routed to them after passing them. Does the fact that they are somewhat close to the 'main route' contribute to them getting skipped ?

          image.jpeg

          And here is and example showing 3 is a via point

          image.jpeg

          Is it possible that the points are not being stored as Via points ? I'm using the free Basic MRA web site account to create routes. Is there something I could be looking for by creating a GPX file of the route and view the XML tags ?

          Here are the settings I've got in the MRA app:

          image.jpeg

          image.jpeg

          There must be something I'm doing or wouldn't a LOT of people be reporting this ?

          Should I create a ticket for support ?

          Thanks everyone

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          • David 38 David 38

            @MotoCon

            Here is a picture of my route. I purposefully put via points 3,5, and 7 on the route just to test being re-routed to them after passing them. Does the fact that they are somewhat close to the 'main route' contribute to them getting skipped ?

            image.jpeg

            And here is and example showing 3 is a via point

            image.jpeg

            Is it possible that the points are not being stored as Via points ? I'm using the free Basic MRA web site account to create routes. Is there something I could be looking for by creating a GPX file of the route and view the XML tags ?

            Here are the settings I've got in the MRA app:

            image.jpeg

            image.jpeg

            There must be something I'm doing or wouldn't a LOT of people be reporting this ?

            Should I create a ticket for support ?

            Thanks everyone

            Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior
            Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior
            Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            @David-38 Jus to be clear, 3 is not a via point as can be clearly seen on your screenshot of the map. The route point menu screenshot that you shared shows how to select a via point, if the via point is selected the icon would show a shaping point.

            image.jpeg

            image.jpeg

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            • Marinus van Deudekom
              Marinus van Deudekom
              Marinus van Deudekom
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              That 3,5 and 7 are being skipped automatically is exactly how it is supposed to be

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              • Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior Nick Carthew RouteXpert Senior

                @David-38 Jus to be clear, 3 is not a via point as can be clearly seen on your screenshot of the map. The route point menu screenshot that you shared shows how to select a via point, if the via point is selected the icon would show a shaping point.

                image.jpeg

                image.jpeg

                David 38
                David 38
                David 38
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                @Nick-Carthew-RouteXpert-Senior

                Ahh, seeing the 'hand' gave me the impression it was already a via point .............. I'll update my route accordingly and re-test.

                Thanks everyone who pointed this out.

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                • David 38 David 38

                  I have been using the MRA web site to create routes for almost 10 years. I've used these routes successfully for my Garmin Zumo 550 and Harley-Davidson Boom (2015).

                  I recently started using the MRA navigation app. I've been creating very simple routes on the MRA web site to verify my understanding of the app. Unfortunately I have not yet figured out how to use waypoints or via points or shaping points such that MRA nav redirects me to them if I miss the calculated turn to reach them.

                  I've got the MRA nav app setting for 'auto skip of waypoints' turned OFF. But regardless of whether I've created a waypoint as 'via' ('hand') or 'shaping' (sort of a balloon), every time I miss a turn to take me to them, they get skipped.

                  Do I need to update a setting in the app ? Create my routes differently ? Other ?

                  Thanks.

                  Guzzist
                  Guzzist
                  Guzzist
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                  wrote last edited by
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                  @David-38 ...to make it clear: Via-Points must be reached exactly. For Shaping-Points it's good enough if you drive by in some distance. So, your Routepoibts 3,5,7 are very close by the road you are driving.
                  If you still drive on the road, the close by Shaping-Point has been accepted as reached. And there will no re-routing happen.

                  Nothing is impossible ;-)
                  In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                  In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                  • David 38
                    David 38
                    David 38
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                    Thanks for clarifying SP (close enough) vs VP (exactly reached).

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                    • David 38 David 38

                      @Nick-Carthew-RouteXpert-Senior

                      Ahh, seeing the 'hand' gave me the impression it was already a via point .............. I'll update my route accordingly and re-test.

                      Thanks everyone who pointed this out.

                      David 38
                      David 38
                      David 38
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      I converted the Shaping Points to Via Points (see pic)

                      image.jpeg

                      But as I drove past the turns to each of them, I did NOT get directed back to them.

                      But notice the message about using track navigation ......... is that ( track navigation) essentially preventing me from getting directed back to the Via Points ?

                      How do I stop track navigation / navigate as a route ? (As shown in an earlier post, I have the 'navigate routes as tracks' setting turned OFF)

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                      • David 38 David 38

                        I converted the Shaping Points to Via Points (see pic)

                        image.jpeg

                        But as I drove past the turns to each of them, I did NOT get directed back to them.

                        But notice the message about using track navigation ......... is that ( track navigation) essentially preventing me from getting directed back to the Via Points ?

                        How do I stop track navigation / navigate as a route ? (As shown in an earlier post, I have the 'navigate routes as tracks' setting turned OFF)

                        Nick Carthew
                        Nick Carthew
                        Nick Carthew
                        RouteXpert
                        wrote last edited by Nick Carthew
                        #11

                        @David-38 You are planning your route using the planning map from OpenStreetMap (OSM). Use the planning map from HERE as this is the map that the app uses.

                        image.jpeg

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