The compas direction on the elevation circle is wrong

[Corjan Meijerink]

We aren't a compass app.
If you stand still be don't do much effort

[superg]

It's given you the direction when you are moving .

[white.mouse]

Just look at the pictures in this thread made by Jörgen!

[LennyO]

@white.mouse Sorry, what pictures in which thread?

[Jim Allen]

When one navigates with the app one sees the altitude with a compass indication around the circle. These red segment
indicators should show the direction that one is traveling In fact the indicator correctly indicates north and south but east and west is backwards. While traveling east the red bar indicator shows west. In other words with I travel west the red indicator should be on the left. That is not the case now. I am using an iPhone 14 pro max with revision 5.2.0 - 473.

[white.mouse]

sorry,
Here's the link
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/11064/compass-is-not-working-properly/8?_=1785773867949
or
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/81307

[LennyO]

Ok, thanks to all!
I guess I needed a mental adjustment to understand that the red segment just says where the North is in relation to the direction I am traveling (to my nose... )
That said, please confirm that the following pictures show the expected behavior of the Red segment. My map is oriented NORTH, so you can easily see in which direction I am moving. Thank you!

[Marinus van Deudekom]

To me that makes no sense at all. But then again I never use North up.
Something tells me in top of that it only works when using the dynamic camera view but I'm nooit shure

[LennyO]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom The behavior of the Red segment is the same in every mode. I just verrified it on a ride this morning. In the Dynamic mode the Blue Arrow in the bottom right acts as a compass too, and it coinsides with the Red segment behavior.

[Corjan Meijerink]

Agree that it looks strange in the north up view.
The red sections points to where north is.
Compared to your physical orientation, not the map on your screen.

[Brian McG]

@Corjan-Meijerink said:
The red sections points to where north is.

North is north is north, if the map is north up then north is up
In north up mode should the red section on the compass not always be at the top & not change?

[LennyO]

@Brian-McG Evidently only if you are heading North all the time

[Stanisław]

I think in north-up map orientation, the red segment should simply disappear, as it is not useful

[Brian McG]

@Corjan-Meijerink apologies I think I now see your logic about your physical orientation & the direction of the altitude pointer, although for me it took some mental gymnastics to get there

the way I think it is working is you have to discount everything else in the MRA display & treat the altitude pointer compass as a separate device, like imagining an old fashioned compass sitting on the fuel cap of your bike
if I am riding heading east, then north is on my left shoulder & the altitude pointer compass wil point to the left of my phone screen
if I am riding heading west, then north is on my right shoulder & the altitude pointer compass will point to the right of my phone screen

again apologies but for me it was just not an intuitive bit of UI

[LennyO]

I also had a hard time with this....
I guess the simplest way to grasp the Red segment position in relation to your movement is to imagine yourself sitting inside the elevation circle heading in the 12 o'clock direction.

[Corjan Meijerink]

It’s completely correct! Has no relation with the map. Indeed like an actual compass strapped om your screen.

It makes sense but in north up it’s confusing.
Pinning it north or hiding it will make most sense I guess.

[Con Hennekens]

It seems current generations do not have much experience with (analogue) compasses anymore

[CD130]

If every change has to preserve the old way of doing things, innovation simply comes to a standstill Not every new design will be everyone’s favorite right away, but progress sometimes means moving on from older concepts 🧭

In another topic, I already mentioned that I’m not a fan of the current display. You now have to constantly think about which direction you’re heading, whereas it should be something you can understand at a glance.

[Guzzist]

@Con-Hennekens said:

It seems current generations do not have much experience with (analogue) compasses anymore

[Dave J 0]

@CD130 Agree. Using a compass is to align North and then use the analogue compass to show you direction/heading you need to travel in. I then can use that dereliction to know that I and riding in the correct general direction. Knowing where North is may be fine but it is the direction of travel that matters with the app. I want a simple indication that saves me having to think.