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New update! (4.3.7) - Track navigation improvements and CP / AA zooming

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  • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

    Than it does not work in Android Auto.

    In the settings are 4 options:

    • Off
    • Speed related
    • Direction related
    • Both

    I use "Both" with dynamic zoom.

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    Nick Carthew
    RouteXperts Instructor
    wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @M-Schrijver Camera view has 3 options. Top down, north up and dynamic. You adjust the camera view by tapping the compass, it is not in the settings. Your camera view choice is stored and will be used next time until you change it.
    You see a notification each time you tap the compass that tell you which camera view is active and what zoom is available. My example shows top down is chosen and it is fixed zoom level.

    IMG_4518.jpeg

    Always willing to help if I can.
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      #26

      Yes, i know.
      The "compass" is set so dynamic.

      But in the settings are some settings which tells how the autozoom should behave. That one i've set to "Both"

      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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      • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

        Yes, i know.
        The "compass" is set so dynamic.

        But in the settings are some settings which tells how the autozoom should behave. That one i've set to "Both"

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        RouteXperts Instructor
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        #27

        @M-Schrijver Have you tried adjusting your default zoom correction? I have mine set to +0.0 which works for me.

        Always willing to help if I can.
        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
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        • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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          wrote on last edited by M. Schrijver
          #28

          I did but i see very little changes. The global zoomlevel changes. But the range of zoom level does not change. The range of zoom level is very limited.
          I don't have real figures about the zoom level. So i will use examples.

          What it looks like to me at the moment
          Maximum zoomed out (at 100 km/u) is 1 cm on screen is 200 meters in real. Maximium zoomed in (at slow driving or stop) is 1 cm on screen is 150 meter in real.

          What I expect?
          At 100 km/u. 1 cm on screen is 200 meters in real.
          At 30 km/u/stop. 1 cm on screen is 30 meters in real.

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

            @M-Schrijver @Gaetano-9 What camera view are you using? Automatic zoom does not work with top down view. Adjust the camera view by tapping the compass.

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            #29

            @Nick-Carthew ....

            Today I checked and used all the possible settings. The automatic zoom does not work on AA but on the cell phone yes. Even with Google maps. On a motorcycle the automatics are important, if it is not possible I will switch to a Tablet or a dedicated cell phone.

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            • Gaetano 9undefined Gaetano 9

              @Nick-Carthew ....

              Today I checked and used all the possible settings. The automatic zoom does not work on AA but on the cell phone yes. Even with Google maps. On a motorcycle the automatics are important, if it is not possible I will switch to a Tablet or a dedicated cell phone.

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              #30

              I can confirm that the automatic zoom does not work in the new version on AA. With the same camera modus as I used in older versions and were it zoomed, it does not do now.

              Also I experience that when I have used the new zoom buttons they remain on the screen. Because of this also the stop button overlays the maximum velocity sign.

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              • Léon Hassingundefined Léon Hassing

                I can confirm that the automatic zoom does not work in the new version on AA. With the same camera modus as I used in older versions and were it zoomed, it does not do now.

                Also I experience that when I have used the new zoom buttons they remain on the screen. Because of this also the stop button overlays the maximum velocity sign.

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                #31

                Also bei mir funktioniert es jetzt endlich! Ich hatte bei den vorherigen Versionen das gleiche Problem.

                Es ist aber ein bisschen tricki! Man braucht die richtigen Einstellung.

                Den Standard Zoomfaktor in den Einstellungen habe ich auf -2. Zoomanpassungen auf Aktiviert.

                Der Kompass steht auf Dynamisch.

                Jetzt kommt es, mit der neuen Schaltfläche kann man zwischen manuellen und automatischen Zoomen umstellen. Wenn man die + und - Tasten sieht ist man im manuellen Modus! Hier wird nicht mehr auf die Kreuzung gezoomt.

                Wenn man wieder die ganz unten rechte Taste drückt ist man wieder im automatischen Modus und es wird rein und raus gezoomt. Hat mich auch eine Weile fummeln gekostet!

                @Admins
                Bei der Version wird der Akku bei Android Auto extrem warm. Bitte unbedingt korrigieren!

                Danke Lutz

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                • LRundefined LR

                  Also bei mir funktioniert es jetzt endlich! Ich hatte bei den vorherigen Versionen das gleiche Problem.

                  Es ist aber ein bisschen tricki! Man braucht die richtigen Einstellung.

                  Den Standard Zoomfaktor in den Einstellungen habe ich auf -2. Zoomanpassungen auf Aktiviert.

                  Der Kompass steht auf Dynamisch.

                  Jetzt kommt es, mit der neuen Schaltfläche kann man zwischen manuellen und automatischen Zoomen umstellen. Wenn man die + und - Tasten sieht ist man im manuellen Modus! Hier wird nicht mehr auf die Kreuzung gezoomt.

                  Wenn man wieder die ganz unten rechte Taste drückt ist man wieder im automatischen Modus und es wird rein und raus gezoomt. Hat mich auch eine Weile fummeln gekostet!

                  @Admins
                  Bei der Version wird der Akku bei Android Auto extrem warm. Bitte unbedingt korrigieren!

                  Danke Lutz

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                  @LR Ich werde das Morgen mal versuchen. Danke.

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                    #33

                    Just to investigate.
                    As long as this screen is visible:

                    b347a1c6-6871-46cd-a39c-cdf33760495b-image.png

                    Automatic zooming will not work.
                    When zoom buttons are present, the top down mode is activated.

                    If you click the close button bottom right, the last used camera mode before entering the top down mode will be used again 🙂

                    When the buttons hide due to inactivity that does not mean the top-down mode is closed

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      Just to investigate.
                      As long as this screen is visible:

                      b347a1c6-6871-46cd-a39c-cdf33760495b-image.png

                      Automatic zooming will not work.
                      When zoom buttons are present, the top down mode is activated.

                      If you click the close button bottom right, the last used camera mode before entering the top down mode will be used again 🙂

                      When the buttons hide due to inactivity that does not mean the top-down mode is closed

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                      #34

                      @Corjan-Meijerink ... Ok... Does the auto zoom work for you at roundabouts or intersections? Because it doesn't work for me, in two different AAs. I think it's not difficult to understand your directions, at least I hope.

                      1. This is the setting on the mobile, the only one you can do and the other is the view on the AA to activate the automatic zoom... up to this point I hope I have succeeded.

                      Screenshot_20250318-105017.png

                      Screenshot_20250318-093913 (1).png

                      Yesterday I navigated with AA in the car and today with Carpuride dedicated to the motorbike.
                      It works on the mobile phone but not on the two AAs.
                      IMG_20250313_171253436.jpg
                      IMG_20250318_094035528.jpg

                      If it works for you then there must be something that I can't activate, but all the adjustments on the map work, except the automatic zoom.

                      I am available for any viable solution. For goodness sake, I just need to use a unit of size when looking at the route without automatic zoom.. I sleep peacefully at night.. but if there is a function that simplifies, why not use it?

                      Thanks and sorry...

                      Google traslate...

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                        #35

                        When doing a simple A to B route two or three options are allowed. However whenever I choose a different route to drive it then reverts to the default route when driving off? How can this be prevented so that the route chosen is driven, not the default route? This is when I connect my mobile phone to the Android Auto screen.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #36

                          I can confirm the images of @Gaetano-9
                          On my AA looks the same.

                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                            #37

                            It looks like this is a new feature: When navigating a route that was not created with HERE, the navigation mode automatically switches to "route as track".

                            mode.jpg

                            This makes life a bit easier: I can leave the toggle "Navigate routes as tracks" turned off; routes created with HERE will be started in "route" navigation mode, others in "route as track".
                            Clever concept; well done!

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                              #38

                              This "feature" is already there for a while.

                              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                This "feature" is already there for a while.

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                                #39

                                @M-Schrijver said in New update! (4.3.7) - Track navigation improvements and CP / AA zooming:

                                This "feature" is already there for a while.

                                Really? Interesting. I did a lot of navigating "route as track", almost always with routes created with OSM, but I never recognized this automatic switch of navigation mode...

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                                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                  It looks like this is a new feature: When navigating a route that was not created with HERE, the navigation mode automatically switches to "route as track".

                                  mode.jpg

                                  This makes life a bit easier: I can leave the toggle "Navigate routes as tracks" turned off; routes created with HERE will be started in "route" navigation mode, others in "route as track".
                                  Clever concept; well done!

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                                  #40

                                  @Martin-Wilcke, I understand that you don't want certain map-details public. But you can choose to cut off unnecessary parts instead of blurring them 😉

                                  I never recognized this automatic switch of navigation mode...

                                  To be honest: me neither 😉
                                  But it seems very handy. If you disable "routes as tracks", HERE routes wile be navigated like always, and OSM/TT routes will automatically be navigated as tracks, which is the clever choice for those. 👍

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                    @Martin-Wilcke, I understand that you don't want certain map-details public. But you can choose to cut off unnecessary parts instead of blurring them 😉

                                    I never recognized this automatic switch of navigation mode...

                                    To be honest: me neither 😉
                                    But it seems very handy. If you disable "routes as tracks", HERE routes wile be navigated like always, and OSM/TT routes will automatically be navigated as tracks, which is the clever choice for those. 👍

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                                    @Con-Hennekens said in New update! (4.3.7) - Track navigation improvements and CP / AA zooming:

                                    But you can choose to cut off unnecessary parts instead of blurring them

                                    Right, that would be an option. In this case, however, I wanted to show the complete screen to make it clear how and where the message appears 🙂

                                    But it seems very handy. If you disable "routes as tracks", HERE routes wile be navigated like always, and OSM/TT routes will automatically be navigated as tracks, which is the clever choice for those.

                                    Exactly my thoughts - as I already wrote...

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                                      Exactly how I intended it to be.
                                      We force track navigation as it works great now and it's the only sensible choice for OSM / TomTom routes 🙂

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