Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom
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Nick as far as I know and have understand MRA description up to now at start of the route traffic will be recognized and calculated. If there is a big issue later while driving on your route, which results in an additional not acceptable time frame (more then ten minutes) you will not get an new Info, means no live traffic. This was my content.
By the way even google will not change or give a reccommendation far a change for cues of few minutes, but you see at each traffic light a red line for the few cars waiting there. Nonsens.
Crazy was maybe is Sygic, which tells you every few minutes on your route „You can save 3 Minutes or 5 Minutes on your route. will you accept the proposal.“
This is also nonsens, first due tue the time may lost and second the cue is perhaps on your 150 km trip at position 80 km, means you need an hour to reach this point and meanwhile the cue is over and not present when you be there.These annoying permanen proposal for route correction is one of the reasons why I not be a fan Sygic.
@Peter-Schiefer The coloured lines that are shown on the map for traffic do not control how the route is drawn, they are merely a visual indicator. So they are live.
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@Nick-Carthew said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
@Afterforever666 @GT-JWR
I would imagine that with a title like Traffic aware route calculation, it will guide you by any major traffic problems. Maybe someone on the forum that uses this setting can enlighten us to how it works.I've had that setting on all the time, just double checked. Didn't do much apparently. Wonder how it would have been with the setting off...
@Afterforever666 Of course, this setting would only have an effect if you are navigating online. I'm not sure if you were or not.
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@Peter-Schiefer said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
Hello Afterforever,
I am with you regard the new visibility of MRA on a CarPlay screen or on a tablett campared to other Apps like Sygic, TOMTOM, Google. Also the verbal instructions are in German language are the best. Apple maps are also not bad in visibility and with some less concerns instructions. A hightlight of A-Maps are the traffic lights in the map in cities a big advantage for counting the crossings.
But back to MRA, MRA next use HERE maps and in average the are not worse than competitors. Regard speed limits, they all have problems with actuallity.
Regard live traffic, MRAnext has no live traffic. Not yet.
You can select traffic info on the webplaner, but Next use only at start and calculation knowing traffic infos from HERE.Hi Peter,
Thanks for some thoughts! I wasn't aware there was no live traffic in MRA. If I had not overlooked that, i wouldn't even have spent money on it. I hope that whenever they provide this capability, i won't have to pay extra. For now, i will switch to Sygic or OSMAnd+ as this is a dealbreaker for me.
For the Speed Limits : i know no map has them completely right, but the HERE map is by far the worst of all.@Afterforever666 said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
I wasn't aware there was no live traffic in MRA.
Yes there is live traffic in MRA. It just does not recalculate routes dynamically using traffic info. Given the projects target on scenic routes, that is a plausible choice from the devs. Since more and more people are using MRA for purposes besides the original target, MRA has already acknowledged that dynamic traffic recalculation is in their wishlist. So all in due time
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
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@Afterforever666 said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
I wasn't aware there was no live traffic in MRA.
Yes there is live traffic in MRA. It just does not recalculate routes dynamically using traffic info. Given the projects target on scenic routes, that is a plausible choice from the devs. Since more and more people are using MRA for purposes besides the original target, MRA has already acknowledged that dynamic traffic recalculation is in their wishlist. So all in due time
regard Live traffic, sorry Con
what you comment is playing with wordsWhen you google the term „Live Traffic“ the common answer is:
Mit Live Traffic Information wird Ihre Route automatisch anhand von Echtzeit Verkehrsinformationen angepasst und optimiert.
With Live Traffic Information, your route is automatically adjusted and optimised based on real-time traffic information.
The Systems with Live traffic like Garmin, TT, Car-included installation“ allows you to select „always use best route“ or „confirm proposal when new information popped up“
This is not in MRA next actually, even when the map presents actual cues, jams everywhere in in the world.
Peter
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regard Live traffic, sorry Con
what you comment is playing with wordsWhen you google the term „Live Traffic“ the common answer is:
Mit Live Traffic Information wird Ihre Route automatisch anhand von Echtzeit Verkehrsinformationen angepasst und optimiert.
With Live Traffic Information, your route is automatically adjusted and optimised based on real-time traffic information.
The Systems with Live traffic like Garmin, TT, Car-included installation“ allows you to select „always use best route“ or „confirm proposal when new information popped up“
This is not in MRA next actually, even when the map presents actual cues, jams everywhere in in the world.
@Peter-Schiefer, if I am playing with words, you are too. I am sure I can find some internet link to back me up, but I am not starting that
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I used the myrouteapp on my android head unit in my campervan (so NOT via android auto) for all travelling of a 14 day holiday in UK. Drove a total of 2400km, of which I estimate only 30% was on highways. All other travelling was on secondary roads.
Since my android device has the capability of split-screen, I always used another navigation app next to myrouteapp. Magic Earth, Waze, Google Maps, Sygic or OsmAnd+.
Here are my observations :
The Good :- Internet connection : I had data roaming on all the time and connectivity was maintained all the time by the app.
- The visualisation of the route on the display is by far the best on the myrouteapp. The zooming, and tilting using the default values is spot on. All other navigation apps are doing a worse job in my opinion (I know this is subjective, but wanted to share my opinion).
- There have literally been NO occasions that the destination I wanted to enter was not present in the map. All POI's, addresses, camperplaces were present.
- When in the Park4Night app, clicking "itinary" and opening MyRouteApp works flawlessly.
- The app didn't crash a single time!
- The use of via-points and way-points planned upfront worked perfect. Had no issues at all.
The Bad :
- Speed Restrictions are incorrect about 90% of the time. They are completely useless. After my return I read somewhere that this may be caused by using the Camper profile. Either way, it was bad.
- Configurability of Units : I found it frustrating that I could not keep distances on the screen in metric and have speeds in imperial. The "Metric" or "Imperial" setting applies both to distances and speeds. Some of the other navigations apps I used in parallel do allow this and that is a big plus.
- Traffic information : has been very unreliable. On many occasions myrouteapp didn't give any warnings about traffic jams or suggest other routes. Waze, Magic Earth and Sygic did a great job and be avoided some heavy traffic thanks to these apps.
- Roadworks : the map used for navigation has some major flaws. While I understand that local road changes can be hard to keep up with for the map provider, I think it's unacceptable that motorways under construction or that are blocked (for long periods, as indicated on the signs) are not represented well in the map. The side effect is of course that when the app then sees you're off route (where you have no choice because of deviation) it will continuously try to get you back on these same closed roads). Waze and Google Maps have been perfect in this respect.
- The popping up of the same ridiculous dialog that needs to be confirmed on every route planning is driving me nuts. Especially because pushing confirm doesn't work always, I need to push the button a few times before the dialog closes. No other navigation app does it this way. You need to agree on the liability statement once at install time, or perhaps when the app is started, but not on EVERY single route.
These are the things I remember. If more comes to mind I will add them.
I hope MyRouteApp team does something with this info. You may have fantastic routeplanner apps and trainings on how to use it, if the navigation or execution of the plan is flawed the circle is not closed. Please listen to your userbase.@Afterforever666 Thanks for the very elaborate feedback!
We do really tend to listen to our users.The visualisation of the route on the display is by far the best on the myrouteapp. The zooming, and tilting using the default values is spot on. All other navigation apps are doing a worse job in my opinion (I know this is subjective, but wanted to share my opinion).
Happy to read that! I totally agree because I configured it
It is indeed very subjective.- Speed restrictions will be improved for motorhomes in the next update!
- Units can now be set in the app directly (for the app). Website is indeed a separate configuration (by design). You might want to plan in units you are familiar with but drive using the local units as these match the signs.
- Traffic information is something we want to improve! It's there, but not fully optimised. Root cause is that mainly our users drive their routes exactly as planned regardless of any delays.
- Roadworks, same as above.
- I'll change this
Cheers!
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@Afterforever666 Thanks for the very elaborate feedback!
We do really tend to listen to our users.The visualisation of the route on the display is by far the best on the myrouteapp. The zooming, and tilting using the default values is spot on. All other navigation apps are doing a worse job in my opinion (I know this is subjective, but wanted to share my opinion).
Happy to read that! I totally agree because I configured it
It is indeed very subjective.- Speed restrictions will be improved for motorhomes in the next update!
- Units can now be set in the app directly (for the app). Website is indeed a separate configuration (by design). You might want to plan in units you are familiar with but drive using the local units as these match the signs.
- Traffic information is something we want to improve! It's there, but not fully optimised. Root cause is that mainly our users drive their routes exactly as planned regardless of any delays.
- Roadworks, same as above.
- I'll change this
Cheers!
@Corjan-Meijerink said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
Traffic information is something we want to improve! It's there, but not fully optimised. Root cause is that mainly our users drive their routes exactly as planned regardless of any delays.
That seems to be more related to the nav app's ability to indicate/warn of upcoming traffic info as well as the app's inability to provide suggested alternate routes (as Google/Apple maps do, for example) in such situations.
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@Afterforever666 Thanks for the very elaborate feedback!
We do really tend to listen to our users.The visualisation of the route on the display is by far the best on the myrouteapp. The zooming, and tilting using the default values is spot on. All other navigation apps are doing a worse job in my opinion (I know this is subjective, but wanted to share my opinion).
Happy to read that! I totally agree because I configured it
It is indeed very subjective.- Speed restrictions will be improved for motorhomes in the next update!
- Units can now be set in the app directly (for the app). Website is indeed a separate configuration (by design). You might want to plan in units you are familiar with but drive using the local units as these match the signs.
- Traffic information is something we want to improve! It's there, but not fully optimised. Root cause is that mainly our users drive their routes exactly as planned regardless of any delays.
- Roadworks, same as above.
- I'll change this
Cheers!
I performalso extended testing and report last time increasing problems with the announcement of shaping and waypoints.
May my test is hard on a 9 km trip but I found similar problems sometimes few weeks ago on my holidays in France.
The anouncements get in conflict when they are close to navigation instructions or close together
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Youtuber everyday Roadster tested several Apps which works with Carplay (not MRA up to now, but I request him to do so) He was satisfied with scenic and so I bought a years description offer to compare it with MRA.
Big big advantages on the same route. A counter presenst all WPs
For shaping points no information either sound nor text but you see on the map the number 2 in a circle for the first one because Start is WP 1
A Viapoint will be announced with his text you create has his own number 1over3 in a droparrow on the map and is shown on the left upper main textbox on carplay with the remaining distance interuppted by routing instructions when necessary. You got repeating annoncement like Garmin do.
A quite clear and easy desing on CP.
Why is this not possible for MRA.
By the way there is an announcement for scenix 4 starts on 1. October.
Scenic leave HERE, because of the concerns regard colors ( like on MRA) and promise new options, like streetview integration
Let see what is better.
Up to now the planer on the Web is better with the several map overlays. MRA next is for me actually not reliable at several situations.Peter
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I performalso extended testing and report last time increasing problems with the announcement of shaping and waypoints.
May my test is hard on a 9 km trip but I found similar problems sometimes few weeks ago on my holidays in France.
The anouncements get in conflict when they are close to navigation instructions or close together
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Youtuber everyday Roadster tested several Apps which works with Carplay (not MRA up to now, but I request him to do so) He was satisfied with scenic and so I bought a years description offer to compare it with MRA.
Big big advantages on the same route. A counter presenst all WPs
For shaping points no information either sound nor text but you see on the map the number 2 in a circle for the first one because Start is WP 1
A Viapoint will be announced with his text you create has his own number 1over3 in a droparrow on the map and is shown on the left upper main textbox on carplay with the remaining distance interuppted by routing instructions when necessary. You got repeating annoncement like Garmin do.
A quite clear and easy desing on CP.
Why is this not possible for MRA.
By the way there is an announcement for scenix 4 starts on 1. October.
Scenic leave HERE, because of the concerns regard colors ( like on MRA) and promise new options, like streetview integration
Let see what is better.
Up to now the planer on the Web is better with the several map overlays. MRA next is for me actually not reliable at several situations.Your statement about Scenic leaving HERE because of colours is incorrect. Scenic has had the ability to completely customise all colours with HERE maps for over a year.
They’ve moved to OSM due to HERE having performance issues, many routing issues and the fact that HERE don’t seem to care or be responsive to smaller developers.
I’m on the beta for Scenic 4 and have constant contact with the developer.
This is their explanation from their blog:-
We want the best for our users and that means empowering them with accurate, detailed maps, reliable routing options, and avoiding unwanted surprises. Around three years ago, Scenic switched to HERE maps, which served our adventurous community well. However, after two years of excellent service, HERE released a new mapping framework with changes to map styles and other elements that negatively impacted the community.
Since the switch, you’ve consistently reported a lack of map detail, counterintuitive route suggestions, and unexpected route alterations.
We’ve heard your concerns and appealed to HERE for feature request changes to address these challenges, specifically for motorcyclists and our other adventurers. But HERE’s focus has shifted to logistics and big automotive clients, and the needs of our close community were either not prioritized or were denied altogether.
We have now found a map partner that can answer each of these concerns as well as offer new features that will uniquely improve your Scenic experience, giving you more freedom to adventure your way. -
Your statement about Scenic leaving HERE because of colours is incorrect. Scenic has had the ability to completely customise all colours with HERE maps for over a year.
They’ve moved to OSM due to HERE having performance issues, many routing issues and the fact that HERE don’t seem to care or be responsive to smaller developers.
I’m on the beta for Scenic 4 and have constant contact with the developer.
This is their explanation from their blog:-
We want the best for our users and that means empowering them with accurate, detailed maps, reliable routing options, and avoiding unwanted surprises. Around three years ago, Scenic switched to HERE maps, which served our adventurous community well. However, after two years of excellent service, HERE released a new mapping framework with changes to map styles and other elements that negatively impacted the community.
Since the switch, you’ve consistently reported a lack of map detail, counterintuitive route suggestions, and unexpected route alterations.
We’ve heard your concerns and appealed to HERE for feature request changes to address these challenges, specifically for motorcyclists and our other adventurers. But HERE’s focus has shifted to logistics and big automotive clients, and the needs of our close community were either not prioritized or were denied altogether.
We have now found a map partner that can answer each of these concerns as well as offer new features that will uniquely improve your Scenic experience, giving you more freedom to adventure your way.I am just new in Scenic and I find the color adjustments and do some test with planning.
The handling with Waypoints ist just quite clearer.
Shapingpoints at Scenic these are Via points, which is in my point of view correct, are only bullets on the route with a number (assumed internally use only the Geocoordinates for route calculation in conjunction with the numbers in sequence) Viapoints in scenic called Stop poibt could named as you like and are announced as interim target (Milestone) 3 Times with remaining distance like Garmin do this. Text is on the screen. What MRA is doing with SPs and VPs is an overkill, which when they close together or near route advices which happen in cities also very quick get in trouble.
There are a lot of advantages with MRA especially currently with the Webplaner and I like it, but on MRA next the different handling of SPs and VPs in announcements by distances 700 m for SPs, which van be disabled and 2 Kilometers only one time for an interim Target Viapoint is for me in a car or with the limited View of infos on CarPlay not satisfying.
By the way, Scenic presents the text of Viapoints, called there Stop points in the main Text box of Carplay too.Let see what Scenic additionally may do better next week with version 4.
May for my requests it should be better tool in the routing mode.You know:The better ones is the enemy of the good ones.
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Your statement about Scenic leaving HERE because of colours is incorrect. Scenic has had the ability to completely customise all colours with HERE maps for over a year.
They’ve moved to OSM due to HERE having performance issues, many routing issues and the fact that HERE don’t seem to care or be responsive to smaller developers.
I’m on the beta for Scenic 4 and have constant contact with the developer.
This is their explanation from their blog:-
We want the best for our users and that means empowering them with accurate, detailed maps, reliable routing options, and avoiding unwanted surprises. Around three years ago, Scenic switched to HERE maps, which served our adventurous community well. However, after two years of excellent service, HERE released a new mapping framework with changes to map styles and other elements that negatively impacted the community.
Since the switch, you’ve consistently reported a lack of map detail, counterintuitive route suggestions, and unexpected route alterations.
We’ve heard your concerns and appealed to HERE for feature request changes to address these challenges, specifically for motorcyclists and our other adventurers. But HERE’s focus has shifted to logistics and big automotive clients, and the needs of our close community were either not prioritized or were denied altogether.
We have now found a map partner that can answer each of these concerns as well as offer new features that will uniquely improve your Scenic experience, giving you more freedom to adventure your way.@Dae-0 said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
They’ve moved to OSM due to HERE having performance issues, many routing issues and the fact that HERE don’t seem to care or be responsive to smaller developers.
Performance issues, yes sometimes. Battery usage is a big issue but they are now actively working on improvements and I've seen some promising results!
Routing issues? Never to be honest. We as MRA haven't always implemented stuff in the best way possible. Lack of correct information? Definitely sometimes but that would be worse with OSM.
Caring about smaller developers? Not always as much as I would like but cannot really blame them for that. Switching to open sourced alternative means nobody cares as you need to care for yourself / hope some random community members do that.
Generally I am a massive fan of OSM and Graphhopper routing. They do not however provide any development platform for both iOS / Android and definitely not a singular cross-platform enabler.
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@Dae-0 said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
They’ve moved to OSM due to HERE having performance issues, many routing issues and the fact that HERE don’t seem to care or be responsive to smaller developers.
Performance issues, yes sometimes. Battery usage is a big issue but they are now actively working on improvements and I've seen some promising results!
Routing issues? Never to be honest. We as MRA haven't always implemented stuff in the best way possible. Lack of correct information? Definitely sometimes but that would be worse with OSM.
Caring about smaller developers? Not always as much as I would like but cannot really blame them for that. Switching to open sourced alternative means nobody cares as you need to care for yourself / hope some random community members do that.
Generally I am a massive fan of OSM and Graphhopper routing. They do not however provide any development platform for both iOS / Android and definitely not a singular cross-platform enabler.
So there is a lot of nuance to their post that can be added.Absolutely. I was just pointing out the real reason that they’ve left HERE and correcting Peter’s assertion that it’s due to colours.
I’m not loyal to a particular product or developer - I simply use the one that’s best for my needs and will honestly tell people if asked.
I frequently mention Scenic on here as I prefer it over MRA for navigation. It meets my needs more than MRA. However, I often mention MRA on the Scenic forum, often with the claim that it’s light years ahead of Scenic for planning. It’s about balance and suitability. I see the MRA/Scenic combo as like having 2 dedicated tools in my toolbox, rather than a Swiss Army knife.
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Absolutely. I was just pointing out the real reason that they’ve left HERE and correcting Peter’s assertion that it’s due to colours.
I’m not loyal to a particular product or developer - I simply use the one that’s best for my needs and will honestly tell people if asked.
I frequently mention Scenic on here as I prefer it over MRA for navigation. It meets my needs more than MRA. However, I often mention MRA on the Scenic forum, often with the claim that it’s light years ahead of Scenic for planning. It’s about balance and suitability. I see the MRA/Scenic combo as like having 2 dedicated tools in my toolbox, rather than a Swiss Army knife.
@Dae-0 Appreciated!
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Absolutely. I was just pointing out the real reason that they’ve left HERE and correcting Peter’s assertion that it’s due to colours.
I’m not loyal to a particular product or developer - I simply use the one that’s best for my needs and will honestly tell people if asked.
I frequently mention Scenic on here as I prefer it over MRA for navigation. It meets my needs more than MRA. However, I often mention MRA on the Scenic forum, often with the claim that it’s light years ahead of Scenic for planning. It’s about balance and suitability. I see the MRA/Scenic combo as like having 2 dedicated tools in my toolbox, rather than a Swiss Army knife.
@Dae-0
As you could read, I correct myself regard color scheme, it was first a miss translation by me regard user concerns at scenic with Here maps.
And to Corjan, creating own road colors as known from paper maps like Shell or Michelin is a great option.
And as Dea confirmed too, the routing works better. You can select number of announcement for stop points, viapoints and routing instructions, not only for the routing.
MRA has this option only for routing.
Shaping points will not be announced, because normally there is no need. MRA says you can, when you rename the position with no digits or add info.
Reduce this function to POI, stop points only, simliar to Scenic or Garmin.
Currently I test scenic routing engine a bit more, but it seems this is with CarPlay, the own colors and better announcement stability reduced to POIs the reference and perhaps I will use both.Regard Here or OSM I believe HERE who is working for automotive since decades has and works with more profession. OSM is perhaps too much splitted in interest groups.
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Absolutely. I was just pointing out the real reason that they’ve left HERE and correcting Peter’s assertion that it’s due to colours.
I’m not loyal to a particular product or developer - I simply use the one that’s best for my needs and will honestly tell people if asked.
I frequently mention Scenic on here as I prefer it over MRA for navigation. It meets my needs more than MRA. However, I often mention MRA on the Scenic forum, often with the claim that it’s light years ahead of Scenic for planning. It’s about balance and suitability. I see the MRA/Scenic combo as like having 2 dedicated tools in my toolbox, rather than a Swiss Army knife.
@Dae-0, Am I guessing correctly that long-announced Android project is thrown off by this change of map-provider decision?
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
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@Dae-0, Am I guessing correctly that long-announced Android project is thrown off by this change of map-provider decision?
I believe the developer actually said the change helps. I’m not on top of the Android stuff as I stopped using it 4 years ago.
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@Dae-0 said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
They’ve moved to OSM due to HERE having performance issues, many routing issues and the fact that HERE don’t seem to care or be responsive to smaller developers.
Performance issues, yes sometimes. Battery usage is a big issue but they are now actively working on improvements and I've seen some promising results!
Routing issues? Never to be honest. We as MRA haven't always implemented stuff in the best way possible. Lack of correct information? Definitely sometimes but that would be worse with OSM.
Caring about smaller developers? Not always as much as I would like but cannot really blame them for that. Switching to open sourced alternative means nobody cares as you need to care for yourself / hope some random community members do that.
Generally I am a massive fan of OSM and Graphhopper routing. They do not however provide any development platform for both iOS / Android and definitely not a singular cross-platform enabler.
So there is a lot of nuance to their post that can be added.@Corjan-Meijerink said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
Performance issues, yes sometimes. Battery usage is a big issue but they are now actively working on improvements and I've seen some promising results!
@Corjan-Meijerink, I am very happy to hear about the promising results! My Pixel 6 gets pretty hot even if I just have MRA open on my computer desk. If I run MRA on the motorcycle while it is plugged into a charging port, it gets really, really hot and sometimes shuts down, even in moderate temperatures. This is the single most important obstacle to me having complete confidence in the program. Thanks for all of your work in prodding HERE to address the issue!
Vinnie
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@Corjan-Meijerink said in Overview of extended testing (goods and bads) done in United Kingdom:
Performance issues, yes sometimes. Battery usage is a big issue but they are now actively working on improvements and I've seen some promising results!
@Corjan-Meijerink, I am very happy to hear about the promising results! My Pixel 6 gets pretty hot even if I just have MRA open on my computer desk. If I run MRA on the motorcycle while it is plugged into a charging port, it gets really, really hot and sometimes shuts down, even in moderate temperatures. This is the single most important obstacle to me having complete confidence in the program. Thanks for all of your work in prodding HERE to address the issue!
Vinnie
@Vincent-Curren see my reply here: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/55080
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@Vincent-Curren see my reply here: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/55080
@Corjan-Meijerink
Regard usability on CarPlay the winner is ScenicSorry Corjan, I perform now some test with the until unknown Scenic App.
May you know I like MRA with the palnning on the Web but i struggle with next and the differences in announcments of SP und VP. May you consider this
I copied now my two test route to Scenic in the GPX 1.2 format but renamed the Viapoints at Scenic Stoppoints to a clear readable Text.
Scenic open this file with no difference.
Wall waypoint get numbers in Sequence, a Stoppoint a own number over the total numbers.
even when a SP is close to a VP there is no conflict in announcement of the distance up to 3 times of an upcomming „Zwischenziel“.
The text of this stop point will not be announced, but is readable as selected by you in the upper main screen of CarPlay as thenext point interchanged by routing instructions.
In the lower left CarPlay screen you see the time and distance to the next Stoppoint but you can select in the settings that you see there in in about every 10 second change also the time and distance to the final target.
Here some pictures.
CarPlay screen (with own selected Colors in the setting of Scenic)
Next Stoppoint (Via at MRA) in the upper left textbox
Nr. 2 is a visible shapingpoint, no verbal info.
routing instruction just comming (in 300 m rechts abbiegen) with no problems and a shaping point nr.4 just behind the corner.
just after turning right and passing Sp 4 you get on the textbox the info for the next stoppoint.
Here I am close to this stopppoint from the pictuer before just after passing a sp nr 5 (grey now) and the stoppoint number over the total numer of Waypoint on the road.
in the lower box ist just the tiem and distance to the final destination visible.Advantage her in the textbox for a stoppoint you can write what you need, Restaurant name, filling station, a forced shapingpoint between the other shapingpoints. Whatever it is always visible as the next important instruction about two kilometers before with the remaining distance, perhaps interuppted by a routing direction, but with no conflicts when they are close together down to 50 meters.
The hand and Bullet is nice in MRA but with no big clear readable Infotext or not seen on CarPlay and AA not useful.
Also the possibilty the have an interchangable via of the ETA of the ViaPoint and Final Dest is not bad.
The compicated use of SPs with announcements or not, additional text is too much. limit this to VPs and reduce the conflict with the distances to other instructions which are increase since 4.3 -
@Corjan-Meijerink
Regard usability on CarPlay the winner is ScenicSorry Corjan, I perform now some test with the until unknown Scenic App.
May you know I like MRA with the palnning on the Web but i struggle with next and the differences in announcments of SP und VP. May you consider this
I copied now my two test route to Scenic in the GPX 1.2 format but renamed the Viapoints at Scenic Stoppoints to a clear readable Text.
Scenic open this file with no difference.
Wall waypoint get numbers in Sequence, a Stoppoint a own number over the total numbers.
even when a SP is close to a VP there is no conflict in announcement of the distance up to 3 times of an upcomming „Zwischenziel“.
The text of this stop point will not be announced, but is readable as selected by you in the upper main screen of CarPlay as thenext point interchanged by routing instructions.
In the lower left CarPlay screen you see the time and distance to the next Stoppoint but you can select in the settings that you see there in in about every 10 second change also the time and distance to the final target.
Here some pictures.
CarPlay screen (with own selected Colors in the setting of Scenic)
Next Stoppoint (Via at MRA) in the upper left textbox
Nr. 2 is a visible shapingpoint, no verbal info.
routing instruction just comming (in 300 m rechts abbiegen) with no problems and a shaping point nr.4 just behind the corner.
just after turning right and passing Sp 4 you get on the textbox the info for the next stoppoint.
Here I am close to this stopppoint from the pictuer before just after passing a sp nr 5 (grey now) and the stoppoint number over the total numer of Waypoint on the road.
in the lower box ist just the tiem and distance to the final destination visible.Advantage her in the textbox for a stoppoint you can write what you need, Restaurant name, filling station, a forced shapingpoint between the other shapingpoints. Whatever it is always visible as the next important instruction about two kilometers before with the remaining distance, perhaps interuppted by a routing direction, but with no conflicts when they are close together down to 50 meters.
The hand and Bullet is nice in MRA but with no big clear readable Infotext or not seen on CarPlay and AA not useful.
Also the possibilty the have an interchangable via of the ETA of the ViaPoint and Final Dest is not bad.
The compicated use of SPs with announcements or not, additional text is too much. limit this to VPs and reduce the conflict with the distances to other instructions which are increase since 4.3@Peter-Schiefer Unfortunately, as far as I have been able to see, Scenic is not yet available for Android. Only for Apple yet - I have an Android phone, unfortunately!
