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  • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

    I was in the Harz (Germany) last weekend with temperatures between 20 and 25 degrees (C). Although there are still a lot of complaints. It seems some improvement were made.
    My phone was kept at 100% battery level pretty easy and the phone temperature was also low.
    In the past i had a lot more temperatures issues compared to my last two trips. All was done with the same phone.

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    @M-Schrijver Good to read that 🙂
    HERE is continuously working on improvements but the real big blow still needs to be made. Happy that some minor adjustments already have an impact.

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      I have trouble understanding this Battery issue with MRA Just had a week in europe 250 to 350 mls a day and no problem with Battery on the phone lasted all day may of gone down to 40% sometimes but worked fine, been for some rides in the UK over the last couple of weeks and battery has only been lasting for 5 or 6 hrs before phone switches off it just doesn't make sense why?

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      • Andrewundefined Andrew

        I have trouble understanding this Battery issue with MRA Just had a week in europe 250 to 350 mls a day and no problem with Battery on the phone lasted all day may of gone down to 40% sometimes but worked fine, been for some rides in the UK over the last couple of weeks and battery has only been lasting for 5 or 6 hrs before phone switches off it just doesn't make sense why?

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        @Andrew, not everyone (not all phones) suffer from it. My CAT easily charges back to 100% during a ride, and does not get warm. I suspect a lot depends on the chipset being used.

        I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Andrew, not everyone (not all phones) suffer from it. My CAT easily charges back to 100% during a ride, and does not get warm. I suspect a lot depends on the chipset being used.

          I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

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          @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

          @Andrew,

          I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

          Just for balance. My iPhone 11 charges to +100% on a Quadlock wireless charger without problems.

          Always willing to help if I can.
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            @Con-Hennekens
            That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

            I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
            Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

            That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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            • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

              @Con-Hennekens
              That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

              I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
              Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

              That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

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                I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

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                • Andrewundefined Andrew

                  I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

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                  @Andrew That is indeed a mystery

                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                  • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                    @Andrew That is indeed a mystery

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                    @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

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                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                      @Con-Hennekens
                      That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

                      I recently made two trip with version 4.1.3 in range of 12-25 degrees (C). At both trips the battery remain at 100% and pretty cool.
                      Not as cool when using TomTom Go and using Spotify at the same time. But the gap is smaller than before.

                      That's why i suspect. Some improvement are made.

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                      @M-Schrijver said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                      That is true. But with same phone i had lot more issues with MRA and heat on older MRA versions compared to the recent version.

                      Yes but that has already been explained by Corjan's message above.

                      @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                      I dont use wireless charging just dont understand why some day trips the phone is 100% charged and some it cuts of because it has run out of Battery.

                      Does your phone get hot too? I can image that on some hot days while charging the temperature get's so high that the device decides to stop charging (or lower the level). But this is just a guess.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                        @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                        @Andrew,

                        I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

                        Just for balance. My iPhone 11 charges to +100% on a Quadlock wireless charger without problems.

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                        @Nick-Carthew @Andrew - ambient temps play a part in it as well. I live in Texas, and in my case, as long as the ambient temp is below ~80degF, not much of an issue. Now, the phone DOES get warmer than 'normal' operating conditons, so there is still an issue with the battery draw the app has. If the temp goes above 80degF, then it is a matter of shutting the app down and switching to Google Maps/Apple Maps or even Scenic...the app is 100% not useable at this point.

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                          @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                          @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

                          Hippos can sleep underwater, thanks to a built-in reflex that allows them to bob up, take a breath, and sink back down without waking.

                          Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

                          You're welcome.🤡

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                          • richtea999undefined richtea999

                            @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                            @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

                            Hippos can sleep underwater, thanks to a built-in reflex that allows them to bob up, take a breath, and sink back down without waking.

                            Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

                            You're welcome.🤡

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                            @richtea999 Thanks that something I didnt know 👍

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                              Out again yesterday On Motorbike with Android auto and while app is connected to bike with phone screen of Battery lasted OK

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                                Yesterday I used MRA on the motorcycle all day and the battery in the wireless Quad-lock charger was not below 80%.
                                How What or Why I have no idea.
                                But this does bring back the confidence that things will turn out okay

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                                • Erik 35undefined Erik 35

                                  Yesterday I used MRA on the motorcycle all day and the battery in the wireless Quad-lock charger was not below 80%.
                                  How What or Why I have no idea.
                                  But this does bring back the confidence that things will turn out okay

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                                  @Erik-35 @Andrew what was ambient temp?

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                                  • GT JWRundefined GT JWR

                                    @Erik-35 @Andrew what was ambient temp?

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                                    @GT-JWR the temperature was between 17 and 23 degrees, perfect for driving, except for the rain shower 🌦

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                                    • Erik 35undefined Erik 35

                                      @GT-JWR the temperature was between 17 and 23 degrees, perfect for driving, except for the rain shower 🌦

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                                      @Erik-35 haha...yea rain can mess it up! For me, the battery issue, while still present, does not have any issues at that ambient temp - 25degC and is very much complicated/comprimised by the heat generated while having to constantly charge the phone (wired charge), causiing excessive heat issues to the point where the phone goes into protect mode, and the screen dims to an undistinguishable level and the only option then, is to shut the app down, and go back to Google, Apple or Scenic - not ideal, but currently, the only workaround.

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                                        I also continue to have problems with phone temperature which I suspect is related to battery consumption. I use CarPlay via a usb wired connection and keep the phone in the armrest. I probably get about 2 hours of usage after which time the phone shuts down due to the temperature. So the app remains unusable for me for most trips.

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                                        • Simon Ferrariundefined Simon Ferrari

                                          I also continue to have problems with phone temperature which I suspect is related to battery consumption. I use CarPlay via a usb wired connection and keep the phone in the armrest. I probably get about 2 hours of usage after which time the phone shuts down due to the temperature. So the app remains unusable for me for most trips.

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                                          @Simon-Ferrari do you keep the phone in a closed armrest. Do you continue running MRA while using CarPlay.
                                          What I do
                                          Let Android Auto connect to my phone.
                                          Use the car screen to choose a route and navigate.
                                          The phone's screen is off. I charge the phone wired but not in the armrest so it can get fresh air. The phone will get charged and doesn't het overheated.
                                          Try this and see the results

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                                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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