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MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold

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  • TorqueRider TorqueRider

    @richtea999

    Is MRA Navigation as good as a pro satnav?

    I find this a funny/interesting remark.
    But what is a "pro-satnav"?
    (this is absolutely not meant to be critical!!)

    richtea999
    richtea999
    richtea999
    Valued contributor
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    #8

    @Jack-van-Tilburg said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

    @richtea999

    Is MRA Navigation as good as a pro satnav?

    I find this a funny/interesting remark.

    Ah! 🤔 - I didn't want to try and specify any since I've never bought a satnav, but Garmin & TomTom immediately come to mind as the two devices that all my mates use.

    As Con suggests, they curse them regularly, so why spend money on a dedicated computer when there's already one in your pocket that's generally more capable.

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    • MotoCon MotoCon

      @Jack-van-Tilburg said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

      (this is absolutely not meant to be critical!!)

      😉

      I for sure think Navigation Next takes a lot of hassle away from the use of a dedicated satnav. In all honesty I think these units have their quirks and bugs too. https://forum.gps.nl/ is full of them.

      TorqueRider
      TorqueRider
      TorqueRider
      wrote on last edited by TorqueRider
      #9

      @Con-Hennekens, @richtea999
      My first nav was a Garmin Streetpilot 2610.
      We are now almost 20 years later.
      If I now compare the introduction of new SatNav devices with the introduction of Next, I see absolutely no reason to purchase a navigation product with dedicated hardware.
      And thanks to the platform chosen for Next, improved functionality and/or bug fixes can be rolled out much more quickly.

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      • TorqueRider TorqueRider

        @Con-Hennekens, @richtea999
        My first nav was a Garmin Streetpilot 2610.
        We are now almost 20 years later.
        If I now compare the introduction of new SatNav devices with the introduction of Next, I see absolutely no reason to purchase a navigation product with dedicated hardware.
        And thanks to the platform chosen for Next, improved functionality and/or bug fixes can be rolled out much more quickly.

        Klaus r
        Klaus r
        Klaus r
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        @Jack-van-Tilburg I am sorry to say but there is a reason for a separate GPS:
        The MRA navigation has up to now no coloured streets. Which is a no-go for me. Colour for different types of streets gives much more orientation where you are and enhances the readability in sunlight.
        I like the route planner very much but for the time being for navigation on the road I still use my zumo XT (together with Garmin Drive).

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        • Klaus r Klaus r

          @Jack-van-Tilburg I am sorry to say but there is a reason for a separate GPS:
          The MRA navigation has up to now no coloured streets. Which is a no-go for me. Colour for different types of streets gives much more orientation where you are and enhances the readability in sunlight.
          I like the route planner very much but for the time being for navigation on the road I still use my zumo XT (together with Garmin Drive).

          TorqueRider
          TorqueRider
          TorqueRider
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @Klaus-r

          I see colours ☺

          IMG_21DC262513AC-1.jpeg

          How many colours do you need?

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          • TorqueRider TorqueRider

            @Klaus-r

            I see colours ☺

            IMG_21DC262513AC-1.jpeg

            How many colours do you need?

            Stefan Hummelink
            Stefan Hummelink
            Stefan Hummelink
            Alpha tester
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            @Jack-van-Tilburg But not when navigating using the Navigation Module. 🤭

            The basic HERE colormap that the nav module uses now is simply too basic. Improvements have already been announced.

            Screenshot_20230711-145621.jpg

            Manks bu'j te bange.

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            • Stefan Hummelink Stefan Hummelink

              @Jack-van-Tilburg But not when navigating using the Navigation Module. 🤭

              The basic HERE colormap that the nav module uses now is simply too basic. Improvements have already been announced.

              Screenshot_20230711-145621.jpg

              TorqueRider
              TorqueRider
              TorqueRider
              wrote on last edited by TorqueRider
              #13

              @StefanHummelink
              Okay, een beetje kort door de bocht van mij dus. 😀

              Scherm­afbeelding 2023-07-11 om 15.20.35.png

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              • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                @StefanHummelink
                Okay, een beetje kort door de bocht van mij dus. 😀

                Scherm­afbeelding 2023-07-11 om 15.20.35.png

                Stefan Hummelink
                Stefan Hummelink
                Stefan Hummelink
                Alpha tester
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @Jack-van-Tilburg Wel heeeeel erg mooie bochtjes. ♥️

                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                • Klaus r Klaus r

                  @Jack-van-Tilburg I am sorry to say but there is a reason for a separate GPS:
                  The MRA navigation has up to now no coloured streets. Which is a no-go for me. Colour for different types of streets gives much more orientation where you are and enhances the readability in sunlight.
                  I like the route planner very much but for the time being for navigation on the road I still use my zumo XT (together with Garmin Drive).

                  MotoCon
                  MotoCon
                  MotoCon
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @Klaus-r said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                  The MRA navigation has up to now no coloured streets. Which is a no-go for me.

                  Map overlays are in the works (but don't ask for ETA 😉 )
                  I actually think there are 2 reasons in favor of dedicated satnavs:

                  • they come with a decent powered and fully integrated mount
                  • they are not considered antique after just a few years

                  Who would have thought I would turn against my own arguing 😉
                  But it is what it is. I'll be happy to spend € 250 every 4 or 5 years on a new rugged Android if needed, instead of € 800 every 6 or 7 years 😉

                  @Jack-van-Tilburg said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                  I see colours

                  You are cheating! 😉

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • MotoCon MotoCon

                    @Klaus-r said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                    The MRA navigation has up to now no coloured streets. Which is a no-go for me.

                    Map overlays are in the works (but don't ask for ETA 😉 )
                    I actually think there are 2 reasons in favor of dedicated satnavs:

                    • they come with a decent powered and fully integrated mount
                    • they are not considered antique after just a few years

                    Who would have thought I would turn against my own arguing 😉
                    But it is what it is. I'll be happy to spend € 250 every 4 or 5 years on a new rugged Android if needed, instead of € 800 every 6 or 7 years 😉

                    @Jack-van-Tilburg said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                    I see colours

                    You are cheating! 😉

                    TorqueRider
                    TorqueRider
                    TorqueRider
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                    #16

                    @Con-Hennekens said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                    You are cheating! 😉

                    shushing-face_1f92b.png

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                    • Mike 56
                      Mike 56
                      Mike 56
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                      #17

                      Thanks everyone for the responses. I will try the 14 free trial for the navigation and then go from there.
                      I am using the free app now and find it to be one of the better route apps on the market.

                      Keep up the good work.

                      Mike

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                      • MotoCon MotoCon

                        @Klaus-r said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                        The MRA navigation has up to now no coloured streets. Which is a no-go for me.

                        Map overlays are in the works (but don't ask for ETA 😉 )
                        I actually think there are 2 reasons in favor of dedicated satnavs:

                        • they come with a decent powered and fully integrated mount
                        • they are not considered antique after just a few years

                        Who would have thought I would turn against my own arguing 😉
                        But it is what it is. I'll be happy to spend € 250 every 4 or 5 years on a new rugged Android if needed, instead of € 800 every 6 or 7 years 😉

                        @Jack-van-Tilburg said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                        I see colours

                        You are cheating! 😉

                        flamingm0e
                        flamingm0e
                        flamingm0e
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @Con-Hennekens said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                        they are not considered antique after just a few years

                        🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

                        The satnavs that Garmin and TomTom produce are antique before they get announced!

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                        • flamingm0e flamingm0e

                          @Con-Hennekens said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                          they are not considered antique after just a few years

                          🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

                          The satnavs that Garmin and TomTom produce are antique before they get announced!

                          MotoCon
                          MotoCon
                          MotoCon
                          Alpha tester
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          @Matt-Flaming, yes indeed 🤣, but you can still use them ten years later. I don't see that happening a lot with smartphones.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                          • MotoCon MotoCon

                            @Matt-Flaming, yes indeed 🤣, but you can still use them ten years later. I don't see that happening a lot with smartphones.

                            richtea999
                            richtea999
                            richtea999
                            Valued contributor
                            wrote on last edited by richtea999
                            #20

                            @Con-Hennekens said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                            @Matt-Flaming, yes indeed 🤣, but you can still use them ten years later. I don't see that happening a lot with smartphones.

                            Agreed that smartphones are currently good for 5 years tops - for most people probably it's closer to 3 or 4, and then pass it on / trade it in.

                            But few points:

                            • the size and quality of your dedicated 5" satnav screen from 5 years ago is really going to annoy you for the final 5 of those 10 years
                            • whereas I can run MRA on an iPhone, a Samsung, a OnePlus. A 6" screen, 7" even - and I get to choose, not Garmin or TomTom designers
                            • you'll still to have buy a phone every 5 years anyway! 🤔

                            In terms of suitability, most modern mid-priced smartphones are waterproof enough not to need a special case, they can be charged off the vehicle battery with a 15€ USB adapter, and Quad Lock or equivalent solves any mounting problems. You may need to buy touch-sensitive gloves though, or use BarButtons.

                            I am pretty sure it's the future. MRA have bet on it, after all. 🙂

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                            • richtea999 richtea999

                              @Con-Hennekens said in MRA Navigation vs MRA Gold:

                              @Matt-Flaming, yes indeed 🤣, but you can still use them ten years later. I don't see that happening a lot with smartphones.

                              Agreed that smartphones are currently good for 5 years tops - for most people probably it's closer to 3 or 4, and then pass it on / trade it in.

                              But few points:

                              • the size and quality of your dedicated 5" satnav screen from 5 years ago is really going to annoy you for the final 5 of those 10 years
                              • whereas I can run MRA on an iPhone, a Samsung, a OnePlus. A 6" screen, 7" even - and I get to choose, not Garmin or TomTom designers
                              • you'll still to have buy a phone every 5 years anyway! 🤔

                              In terms of suitability, most modern mid-priced smartphones are waterproof enough not to need a special case, they can be charged off the vehicle battery with a 15€ USB adapter, and Quad Lock or equivalent solves any mounting problems. You may need to buy touch-sensitive gloves though, or use BarButtons.

                              I am pretty sure it's the future. MRA have bet on it, after all. 🙂

                              RetiredWingMan
                              RetiredWingMan
                              RetiredWingMan
                              Valued contributor
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              @richtea999 I've had several Tomtoms over the years. I had to upgrade several times because the maps would no longer fit in the available memory. No ability to upgrade memory. So in my experience, even the dedicated nav units were only good for 3 to 5 years.

                              2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                              • RetiredWingMan RetiredWingMan

                                @richtea999 I've had several Tomtoms over the years. I had to upgrade several times because the maps would no longer fit in the available memory. No ability to upgrade memory. So in my experience, even the dedicated nav units were only good for 3 to 5 years.

                                MotoCon
                                MotoCon
                                MotoCon
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                @Doug-Robinson, Really? I remember on a Zumo (can't remember which one), the maps were suddenly split into Northern Europe and Southern Europe, because it didn't fit into memory in one piece anymore. But luckily I could add an SD card and install both. I guess designing devices with just enough memory is the model of revenue for TomTom then 😉

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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