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  • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Offline
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    @Brian McG:
    It may be that my planning system is unusual, but I've always found it convenient to plan this way.
    Thanks for your suggestion, too; it's very clever, but even this way involves extra work outside of MRA, and it's probably not faster than moving waypoints from the list directly into MRA.

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    • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

      @Brian McG:
      It may be that my planning system is unusual, but I've always found it convenient to plan this way.
      Thanks for your suggestion, too; it's very clever, but even this way involves extra work outside of MRA, and it's probably not faster than moving waypoints from the list directly into MRA.

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      @Corrado-Miniati-0 sorry you do not see the advantages of the method I proposed
      I do not think it is extra work,
      currently you type in the coordinates in MRA, in the proposed method you type them in Excel & just import the csv
      so now you are in the same state as you would be with your current method

      with your method you now have to sort the order of all your points
      with the proposed method all you have to do is click next to each of the POI in the order you wish the route to be
      IMO it would be a lot faster & a lot easier than your current method, especially if you have a large number of points

      I hope you try it & see, there are other advantages to having your points captured in a POI list
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        #26

        Thanks so much for your support.
        I tried, but it doesn't work. Could you please show me how to set the coordinates in Excel and what CSV format you choose for saving?

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          Your CSV need to be Long, Lat and a description of the POI.
          Here's one of mine.

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            Your CSV need to be Long, Lat and a description of the POI.
            Here's one of mine.

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            This is what the uploaded POI's look like.

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                #30

                I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
                My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

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                However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

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                • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

                  I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
                  My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

                  Appunti_09-13-2025_03.jpg

                  However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

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                  #31

                  @Corrado-Miniati-0 the easy way to understand the format is to create a map / route in MRA with some POI's
                  then save the route as a CSV
                  you can then inspect the csv & replicate the format
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                  when you create your own custom CSV to import your points, import it via the Library tab
                  you will need to zoom into >=10km to see the imported POI's

                  yes the lon-lat v lat-lon is an oddity of MRA, I dont know why, maybe it is a dutch thing 😊
                  the points will be displayed just not in the part of the world you are expecting to find them πŸ˜‚

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                    Thanks, maybe Corjan could check if the lat-lon vs lon-lat theme is a bug

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                      It definitely is not a bug πŸ™‚
                      Do I find it logical for a user perspective? No.
                      Will I change it? No. Mainly because everyone using this is now used to that.

                      I do know the origin of these things.
                      Lat / lon is preferred by humans but I don’t know why. Lon / lat is however mathematically the correct order πŸ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        It definitely is not a bug πŸ™‚
                        Do I find it logical for a user perspective? No.
                        Will I change it? No. Mainly because everyone using this is now used to that.

                        I do know the origin of these things.
                        Lat / lon is preferred by humans but I don’t know why. Lon / lat is however mathematically the correct order πŸ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

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                        #34

                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

                        ...Lon / Lat is however mathematically the correct order πŸ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

                        uhh, I believe it's not 100% correct explained.

                        • The geographical length, also called longitude (international abbreviation long or LON), describes the position east or west of a defined (arbitrarily defined) north-south line, the zero meridian. It's following the vertical earth axis.
                        • The geographical latitude, also called geodetic lat or (international abbreviation Lat. or LAT), describes the position north or south of a defined line round the earth, parallel to the Earth's horizontal equator.

                        But the rest, Corjan - you may know better than me πŸ˜‰

                        Nothing is impossible ;-)
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                        In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                          Also if you search for an address and what to add that to the route is will always be added at the end. So then you need to drag to the correct position.

                          I agree that a shorter way to edit the position of the point in the route would be a good functionality

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                            In my case, but I think for many if not all users, it would be a very significant update.

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