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Improve Favorite POI management (visibility, categories, icons)

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  • Stephan Dornbergundefined Offline
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    Stephan Dornberg
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    I'd like to add my vote for this. I think POIs are not well implemented in MRA. Look for example at Google MyMaps which has a very nice system for managing what they call waypoints..I can add photos from the web, notes, all kinds of things. I use this feature a great deal to keep track of places I might want to visit on a future trip.

    There is no real counterpart to that feature in MRA and it makes planning a ride with places I might like to see that are close to but not ON the route very difficult.

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    • Stephan Dornbergundefined Stephan Dornberg

      I'd like to add my vote for this. I think POIs are not well implemented in MRA. Look for example at Google MyMaps which has a very nice system for managing what they call waypoints..I can add photos from the web, notes, all kinds of things. I use this feature a great deal to keep track of places I might want to visit on a future trip.

      There is no real counterpart to that feature in MRA and it makes planning a ride with places I might like to see that are close to but not ON the route very difficult.

      BertMundefined Offline
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      BertM
      wrote on last edited by
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      @Stephan-Dornberg said in Improve Favorite POI management (visibility, categories, icons):

      I'd like to add my vote for this. I think POIs are not well implemented in MRA. Look for example at Google MyMaps which has a very nice system for managing what they call waypoints..I can add photos from the web, notes, all kinds of things. I use this feature a great deal to keep track of places I might want to visit on a future trip.

      There is no real counterpart to that feature in MRA and it makes planning a ride with places I might like to see that are close to but not ON the route very difficult.

      I think you cannot compare myMaps with a routeplanner like MRA, these are 2 different things: MyMaps is a application for POI's, MRA is a route planner. you cannot plan routes in MyMaps.

      I think Mymaps is nice but I prever uMap.
      This is based on openstreetmap and you can directly download in CSV, GPX and GeoJson.
      MyMaps only in KML which you have to convert again to use in MRA.
      You can download any layer directly as GPX or even filter.

      3e25e20e-4f99-4052-bc8f-5ad76acc7d91-image.png

      Here a sample of the MOHO Hotels and Tourenfahrer Hotels in Umap
      http://u.osmfr.org/m/1274476/

      You can even use overpass-turbo to get a every Openstreetmap item out of Openstreetmap as POI real time.
      Here is a sample of all the hotels and campings in Slovenia downloaded directly from openstreetmap on the moment you open de map.
      http://u.osmfr.org/m/1271586/

      Only downside is that you must have a Github or Openstreetmap account to access Umap.

      I agree that POI's are (to) limited in MRA but with Umap and some tools I made to get data from the Internet I have a nice workaround.

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      • BertMundefined BertM

        @Stephan-Dornberg said in Improve Favorite POI management (visibility, categories, icons):

        I'd like to add my vote for this. I think POIs are not well implemented in MRA. Look for example at Google MyMaps which has a very nice system for managing what they call waypoints..I can add photos from the web, notes, all kinds of things. I use this feature a great deal to keep track of places I might want to visit on a future trip.

        There is no real counterpart to that feature in MRA and it makes planning a ride with places I might like to see that are close to but not ON the route very difficult.

        I think you cannot compare myMaps with a routeplanner like MRA, these are 2 different things: MyMaps is a application for POI's, MRA is a route planner. you cannot plan routes in MyMaps.

        I think Mymaps is nice but I prever uMap.
        This is based on openstreetmap and you can directly download in CSV, GPX and GeoJson.
        MyMaps only in KML which you have to convert again to use in MRA.
        You can download any layer directly as GPX or even filter.

        3e25e20e-4f99-4052-bc8f-5ad76acc7d91-image.png

        Here a sample of the MOHO Hotels and Tourenfahrer Hotels in Umap
        http://u.osmfr.org/m/1274476/

        You can even use overpass-turbo to get a every Openstreetmap item out of Openstreetmap as POI real time.
        Here is a sample of all the hotels and campings in Slovenia downloaded directly from openstreetmap on the moment you open de map.
        http://u.osmfr.org/m/1271586/

        Only downside is that you must have a Github or Openstreetmap account to access Umap.

        I agree that POI's are (to) limited in MRA but with Umap and some tools I made to get data from the Internet I have a nice workaround.

        Martin Wilckeundefined Offline
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        Martin Wilcke
        wrote on last edited by Martin Wilcke
        #10

        @BertM

        WOW - never heard of uMap before, what a great tool!

        I'm familiar with Overpass and quickly created a dynamic layer with OSM picnic sites:

        overpass.jpg

        Works great so far. There is one thing I haven't figured out: is there a way to assign a value for a sym tag when exporting this layer as GPX, for example <sym>picnic</sym>?

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        • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

          @BertM

          WOW - never heard of uMap before, what a great tool!

          I'm familiar with Overpass and quickly created a dynamic layer with OSM picnic sites:

          overpass.jpg

          Works great so far. There is one thing I haven't figured out: is there a way to assign a value for a sym tag when exporting this layer as GPX, for example <sym>picnic</sym>?

          BertMundefined Offline
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          BertM
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @Martin-Wilcke

          I am still exploring all the posibilities from uMap, documentation is not up to date I am afraid.

          It seems that the asigned symbols are not exported ( mostly the exports are fields that every navigation program can read.
          You can edit and add new field inside the program, but not everything is exported.
          See the marked field in the screenshot.
          ![alt text]Schermafbeelding 2025-09-03 214007.jpg

          I build some tools in Excel/Google sheets to geo-reference the POI's with Google and add fields to it, so I export the file as CSV from Umap, edit it in Excel and add fields that are know to my Garmin like the symbol field and export it from Excel to a GPX file with additional fields my Garmin can read.
          See the screenshot below for the edited MoHo GPX import.
          Schermafbeelding 2025-09-03 214244.jpg

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          • BertMundefined BertM

            @Martin-Wilcke

            I am still exploring all the posibilities from uMap, documentation is not up to date I am afraid.

            It seems that the asigned symbols are not exported ( mostly the exports are fields that every navigation program can read.
            You can edit and add new field inside the program, but not everything is exported.
            See the marked field in the screenshot.
            ![alt text]Schermafbeelding 2025-09-03 214007.jpg

            I build some tools in Excel/Google sheets to geo-reference the POI's with Google and add fields to it, so I export the file as CSV from Umap, edit it in Excel and add fields that are know to my Garmin like the symbol field and export it from Excel to a GPX file with additional fields my Garmin can read.
            See the screenshot below for the edited MoHo GPX import.
            Schermafbeelding 2025-09-03 214244.jpg

            Martin Wilckeundefined Offline
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            Martin Wilcke
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            @BertM

            Ok, thanks.

            Enhancing data with another tool, like Excel, is an option. However, I will dig deeper into uMap and maybe find a solution.

            Exporting a sym tag for <wpt> is key for my usage. That's one of the features I really would like to have with MRA.

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            • BertMundefined Offline
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              BertM
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @Martin-Wilcke
              If you find it let me know.

              Exporting symbols from MRA is also on my wishlist.
              If I can do it in Excel with my limited knowledge of programming, it should not be a to bigger problem for a professional programmer 😉

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              • Reinhard Punzundefined Offline
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                Reinhard Punz
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                #14

                Ich kann mich dem Thema "Verbesserung der POIs nur anschließen. Ich hätte ein paar zusätzliche Vorschläge:

                • Die verwalteten POIs nicht in einer Route speichern, sondern unabhängig davon in einer eigenen POI Datei.
                • Beim Erstellen von POIs soll es die Möglichkeit geben, diese einer bestimmten Gruppe zuzuweisen, ähnlich wie es jetzt schon in der POI Bibliothek aussieht.
                • Die POIs sollen auch verwaltet werden können, ohne dass man eine Route öffnen muss.
                • Importiere POIs sollen bearbeitet/verwaltet werden können. Sie ein- oder auszublenden ist zu wenig.
                • Die POIs sollen auch exportiert werden können.

                Gibt es Informationen darüber, ob die Umgestaltung der POI Verwaltung in Planung ist? Ich habe im Forum leider nichts gefunden.

                Derweil bleibe ich hoffnungsfroh und danke schon im Voraus für eine Antwort.

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                • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

                  Ich kann mich dem Thema "Verbesserung der POIs nur anschließen. Ich hätte ein paar zusätzliche Vorschläge:

                  • Die verwalteten POIs nicht in einer Route speichern, sondern unabhängig davon in einer eigenen POI Datei.
                  • Beim Erstellen von POIs soll es die Möglichkeit geben, diese einer bestimmten Gruppe zuzuweisen, ähnlich wie es jetzt schon in der POI Bibliothek aussieht.
                  • Die POIs sollen auch verwaltet werden können, ohne dass man eine Route öffnen muss.
                  • Importiere POIs sollen bearbeitet/verwaltet werden können. Sie ein- oder auszublenden ist zu wenig.
                  • Die POIs sollen auch exportiert werden können.

                  Gibt es Informationen darüber, ob die Umgestaltung der POI Verwaltung in Planung ist? Ich habe im Forum leider nichts gefunden.

                  Derweil bleibe ich hoffnungsfroh und danke schon im Voraus für eine Antwort.

                  Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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                  Nick Carthew
                  RouteXpert
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                  #15

                  @Reinhard-Punz Please try to use the same language that the topic is using, this makes it easier for all to follow. Thanks 👍

                  Always willing to help if I can.
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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Roberto-Ar, in short: treat Favorites like Personal POI categories.

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                    Bjorn Bjornstad
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                    #16

                    @Con-Hennekens said in Improve Favorite POI management (visibility, categories, icons):

                    @Roberto-Ar, in short: treat Favorites like Personal POI categories.

                    Is there a way of showing the Favorites in the map when planning routes (like the POIs)?

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                    • Jörgenundefined Offline
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                      #17

                      No, favourites can only be accessed and viewed individually after they have been activated.

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                      • Bjorn Bjornstadundefined Bjorn Bjornstad

                        @Con-Hennekens said in Improve Favorite POI management (visibility, categories, icons):

                        @Roberto-Ar, in short: treat Favorites like Personal POI categories.

                        Is there a way of showing the Favorites in the map when planning routes (like the POIs)?

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                        #18

                        @Bjorn-Bjornstad As @Jörgen said, no. Think of favourites as bookmarks to help you quickly find a favourite location. Once a favourite is shown on the screen you can add it as a route point.

                        Always willing to help if I can.
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