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  • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

    @Rolf-Aalders Did you use the latest build 3.2.8-151? In that version some issues regarding battery drainage should be resolved!

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    @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks Rob, good to hear it is being worked on.

    No I'm not using 3.2.8-151.
    In the app version number states 3.2.8-150

    How do I update? In the play store no update is available

    Had to go somewhere tonight by car. Phone in a wired charger and normally indeed positive charging. Now, track recording and navigation: 2 crashes and negative charge. When I stopped navigating and kept recording track, positive charging, so issue is reproducable.
    I do know you mentioned latest version might fix battery usage, but still wanted to inform that navigating seems to cause it, not the track recording.

    Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
    https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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    • Flat Twin Therapyundefined Flat Twin Therapy

      @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks Rob, good to hear it is being worked on.

      No I'm not using 3.2.8-151.
      In the app version number states 3.2.8-150

      How do I update? In the play store no update is available

      Had to go somewhere tonight by car. Phone in a wired charger and normally indeed positive charging. Now, track recording and navigation: 2 crashes and negative charge. When I stopped navigating and kept recording track, positive charging, so issue is reproducable.
      I do know you mentioned latest version might fix battery usage, but still wanted to inform that navigating seems to cause it, not the track recording.

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      #5

      @Rolf-Aalders 3.2.8 is the latest! Android and iOS have a slightly different build number (150 vs 151).

      Reading these messages it indeed has more to do with the navigation rather than the background tracking. We’ll investigate!

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      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

        @Rolf-Aalders 3.2.8 is the latest! Android and iOS have a slightly different build number (150 vs 151).

        Reading these messages it indeed has more to do with the navigation rather than the background tracking. We’ll investigate!

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        @Corjan-Meijerink thanks!
        Let me know if you need more info! Happy to help!

        Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
        https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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        • Mopetenpitundefined Offline
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          My contribution to the topic "battery charging". I drove a short distance today with the bike and Navigation Next. At the start I had a battery charge of 73%, at the finish was 64%. The route is 3.4 km long and of course only takes a few minutes. Equipment: iPhone 13 pro, iOS version 16.3.

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          • Arno 0undefined Offline
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            #8

            Also tested battery drain this morning on my OnePlus 6T with Android 11 and MRA Next 3.2.8-150 installed. A half hour 25 km tour (no tracking) dropped the battery level with 9% without charging.

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              @Mopetenpit @Arno-0 Now that’s a significant different between you two. I would like to say that the Android experience is more or less reasonable battery consumption. The iOS usage is however more than you would expect.

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                #10

                Its exactly what I experienced. Large baterry draining despite phone on charger (you have my report)

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                  I plan today to do 150km, I will reset all the counters and start with 100% battery and on charger. Will post results

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                    #12

                    Today no navigation, but onbly tracking a route by bycicle. Let the screenshots speak for itself.

                    Started tracking at 96% battery capacity. Distance 15km; time 40minutes.
                    IMG_5987.jpeg

                    Halfway, 1% background activity
                    IMG_5988.jpeg

                    After 30km's end of tracking. 90 minutes pause in between two trackings and only 3% use of background activity.
                    IMG_5989.jpeg

                    Batterycondition is 100%.
                    IMG_5990.jpeg

                    Looks good so far. Resumé: tracked with the app for 90 minutes and stood on standby for 90 minutes.

                    iPhone 13
                    iOS 16.3.1
                    App-buid: 3.2.8 - 151

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                    iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
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                    • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                      Today no navigation, but onbly tracking a route by bycicle. Let the screenshots speak for itself.

                      Started tracking at 96% battery capacity. Distance 15km; time 40minutes.
                      IMG_5987.jpeg

                      Halfway, 1% background activity
                      IMG_5988.jpeg

                      After 30km's end of tracking. 90 minutes pause in between two trackings and only 3% use of background activity.
                      IMG_5989.jpeg

                      Batterycondition is 100%.
                      IMG_5990.jpeg

                      Looks good so far. Resumé: tracked with the app for 90 minutes and stood on standby for 90 minutes.

                      iPhone 13
                      iOS 16.3.1
                      App-buid: 3.2.8 - 151

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                      @Rob-Verhoeff That's very decent! Thanks for sharing the information 🙂

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                        Première sortie à moto avec la version beta :

                        Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - Android 13 Batterie 4.500 mAh
                        Version beta 3.2.8 - 150

                        1° sans alimentation du smartphone
                        Démarrage à 10h à 100% avec uniquement un itinéraire + suivi + Bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie vide (0%) à 12h !!!

                        2° Essai avec alimentation :
                        Démarrage à 14h30, batterie à 58% avec uniquement itinéraire + bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie à 44% à 15h30

                        Effectivement, la batterie se vide à une vitesse VV' alors qu'en utilisation normale, la batterie tient plus de 2 jours.

                        Je suis certain de ne pas tenir toute une journée malgré l'alimentation 12V.
                        C'est un réel problème que je n'avais pas avec la version MRA Navigation.

                        Bon travail et bonne continuation, on compte sur vous

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                        • Willy DEOMundefined Willy DEOM

                          Première sortie à moto avec la version beta :

                          Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G - Android 13 Batterie 4.500 mAh
                          Version beta 3.2.8 - 150

                          1° sans alimentation du smartphone
                          Démarrage à 10h à 100% avec uniquement un itinéraire + suivi + Bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie vide (0%) à 12h !!!

                          2° Essai avec alimentation :
                          Démarrage à 14h30, batterie à 58% avec uniquement itinéraire + bluetooth écouteurs : Batterie à 44% à 15h30

                          Effectivement, la batterie se vide à une vitesse VV' alors qu'en utilisation normale, la batterie tient plus de 2 jours.

                          Je suis certain de ne pas tenir toute une journée malgré l'alimentation 12V.
                          C'est un réel problème que je n'avais pas avec la version MRA Navigation.

                          Bon travail et bonne continuation, on compte sur vous

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                          Corjan Meijerink
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                          #15

                          @Willy-DEOM Thanks for sharing the feedback and further information. We will continue investigating the issue.

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                          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                            @Rob-Verhoeff That's very decent! Thanks for sharing the information 🙂

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                            #16

                            @Corjan-Meijerink Just been on a run today with my iPhone 8 Plus (iOS 16.3.1) and there was no drain on battery whilst tracking, navigating and screen recording. Indeed, the charge increased to 100% as the ride went on. I was using a cable from auxiliary socket to the Lightning Port to charge and i will check wireless charge performance on the bike next time I am out on it. No issues with drain from my perspective.

                            Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                            Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                            iPhone 15 Pro
                            Chigee AIO-5 Play
                            Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                            Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                            • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                              @Corjan-Meijerink Just been on a run today with my iPhone 8 Plus (iOS 16.3.1) and there was no drain on battery whilst tracking, navigating and screen recording. Indeed, the charge increased to 100% as the ride went on. I was using a cable from auxiliary socket to the Lightning Port to charge and i will check wireless charge performance on the bike next time I am out on it. No issues with drain from my perspective.

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                              #17

                              @Dave-J-0 Thanks for confirming another side of this issue! I just drove for 45 minutes with full screen brightness, tracking on and using the nee navigation.

                              Battery usage was 15% which is pretty decent. When using Google Maps this morning during a 35 minute ride, the battery usage was 11% which is very similar.

                              My device is an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

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                              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                @Dave-J-0 Thanks for confirming another side of this issue! I just drove for 45 minutes with full screen brightness, tracking on and using the nee navigation.

                                Battery usage was 15% which is pretty decent. When using Google Maps this morning during a 35 minute ride, the battery usage was 11% which is very similar.

                                My device is an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

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                                @Corjan-Meijerink
                                Indeed that sounds acceptable! I don't mind the battery use when not charging. But when charging there should still be a positive charge, else the risk of running out of battery during a ride is too high. That should not be the case, right?

                                Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                                https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                                • Flat Twin Therapyundefined Flat Twin Therapy

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink
                                  Indeed that sounds acceptable! I don't mind the battery use when not charging. But when charging there should still be a positive charge, else the risk of running out of battery during a ride is too high. That should not be the case, right?

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                                  @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                    @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                                    @Corjan-Meijerink here my battery usage today. Used MRA between 7:30 and 9 and 4:30 and 6. My battery doesn’t like cold weather and this morning was ccccolddd (1 degree Celsius and fog). I think this is ok. My phone (iPhone 7) is always on the charger when driving. I do have background location set to “when using app” because I noticed several crashes when not even using MRA and quite some battery usage. 497DC53A-C653-4462-8CA4-303DD2ABD150.png

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                                    • infoevertkuiken.nlundefined infoevertkuiken.nl

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink here my battery usage today. Used MRA between 7:30 and 9 and 4:30 and 6. My battery doesn’t like cold weather and this morning was ccccolddd (1 degree Celsius and fog). I think this is ok. My phone (iPhone 7) is always on the charger when driving. I do have background location set to “when using app” because I noticed several crashes when not even using MRA and quite some battery usage. 497DC53A-C653-4462-8CA4-303DD2ABD150.png

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                                      @Evert-Kuiken This is fine indeed!

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                                        Yesterday I did cca 150km in car with charger. Battery stayed on same level. Didnt fall but didnt charge also. Improvement from last version, however charger is still mandatory

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                                          @Rolf-Aalders That indeed really should not be the case!

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink Any progress on this topic? 🤞 🤞 🤞

                                          Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                                          https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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