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  • Drabslab Drabslab

    @Con-Hennekens

    Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

    and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

    Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

    Hence, good testing making sure that it all works, and good communication (and here i don't mean the typical publicity messages) well on time (not 24h before the new version rolls out) would be key.

    A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

    Nick Carthew
    Nick Carthew
    Nick Carthew
    RouteXpert
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @Drabslab said in Next:

    @Con-Hennekens

    Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

    and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

    The current MRA Navigation is a separate app the new MRA Navigation Next will run inside MRA Mobile so for the transition period both app will run.

    Always willing to help if I can.
    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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    • Drabslab Drabslab

      @Con-Hennekens

      Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

      and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

      Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

      Hence, good testing making sure that it all works, and good communication (and here i don't mean the typical publicity messages) well on time (not 24h before the new version rolls out) would be key.

      A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

      Con Hennekens
      Con Hennekens
      Con Hennekens
      Alpha tester
      wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
      #12

      @Drabslab said in Next:

      @Con-Hennekens

      Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

      That was an inline update. It has been told multiple times Next will be a complete new separate app and therefore it will not interfere with the existing Navigation app.

      Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

      The "anger" we have seen probably DOES NOT make it potentially the best thing after all?

      A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

      Having it in a separate app has the benefit of being able to manage the transition yourself πŸ˜‰ If learned ANYTHING from the Mobile app, it is that an automatic irreversible upgrade is not desirable, especially with that many changes, and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

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      • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

        @Drabslab said in Next:

        @Con-Hennekens

        Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

        That was an inline update. It has been told multiple times Next will be a complete new separate app and therefore it will not interfere with the existing Navigation app.

        Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

        The "anger" we have seen probably DOES NOT make it potentially the best thing after all?

        A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

        Having it in a separate app has the benefit of being able to manage the transition yourself πŸ˜‰ If learned ANYTHING from the Mobile app, it is that an automatic irreversible upgrade is not desirable, especially with that many changes, and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

        Drabslab
        Drabslab
        Drabslab
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        @Con-Hennekens said in Next:

        and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

        yep, timing is crucial, and decent communication ...

        To summarise, it ain't that easy. πŸ™‚

        It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        • Drabslab Drabslab

          @Con-Hennekens said in Next:

          and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

          yep, timing is crucial, and decent communication ...

          To summarise, it ain't that easy. πŸ™‚

          Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink
          Developer
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          @Drabslab @Con-Hennekens The Navigation app (as it now is) will continue to exist in the early stages of Navigation Next. This is because the Next app is developed with MyRoute-app Mobile (yeej, finally one single app to rule them all).

          This means that the Navigation app will always be a backup during the first months. Somewhere early 2023 the Navigation app will be removed and the Mobile app (with Navigation Next in it) will have fully replaced the Navigation app as you now know it.

          So long story short. When we are done, there is one app. The MyRoute-app πŸ˜‰

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          • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

            @Drabslab @Con-Hennekens The Navigation app (as it now is) will continue to exist in the early stages of Navigation Next. This is because the Next app is developed with MyRoute-app Mobile (yeej, finally one single app to rule them all).

            This means that the Navigation app will always be a backup during the first months. Somewhere early 2023 the Navigation app will be removed and the Mobile app (with Navigation Next in it) will have fully replaced the Navigation app as you now know it.

            So long story short. When we are done, there is one app. The MyRoute-app πŸ˜‰

            Drabslab
            Drabslab
            Drabslab
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @Corjan-Meijerink said in Next:

            @Drabslab @Con-Hennekens (yeej, finally one single app to rule them all).

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            • Davide Meloncelli
              Davide Meloncelli
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              #16

              hi guys I wrote twice to the MRA navigation next form, no answer.
              Before buying MRA Navigation next in presale, I ask if the new app will have the navigation item menu and voice navigation in Italian.

              thanks

              Davide

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              • Davide Meloncelli Davide Meloncelli

                hi guys I wrote twice to the MRA navigation next form, no answer.
                Before buying MRA Navigation next in presale, I ask if the new app will have the navigation item menu and voice navigation in Italian.

                thanks

                Davide

                Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                Valued contributor
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                #17

                @Davide-Meloncelli

                Hi @Davide-Meloncelli Yes, the intention is to offer Next in the languages that are also available on the website. (Dutch, English, German, Spanish, French, Italian)

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                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • Tony 13
                  Tony 13
                  Tony 13
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                  #18

                  I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

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                  • Tony 13 Tony 13

                    I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

                    Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                    Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                    Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                    Valued contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    @Tony-13

                    When you have MRA Navigation lifetime nothing changes

                    BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                    • Tony 13 Tony 13

                      I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

                      Nick Carthew
                      Nick Carthew
                      Nick Carthew
                      RouteXpert
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      @Tony-13 said in Next:

                      I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

                      Hi Tony. Your question is a little confusing because lifetime gold is referring to the route planner. MRA Navigation does not have a gold account option.
                      If however you have a lifetime account for MRA Navigation then when MRA Navigation Next is released, your lifetime account will automatically be upgraded to MRA Navigation Next.

                      Always willing to help if I can.
                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                      • Tony 13
                        Tony 13
                        Tony 13
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                        #21

                        thanks Nick. That must reflect my confusion. I thought Next was combining the routing and navigation into one app.

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