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  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

    @sudolea said in Next:

    <sceptical mode>
    ... and the update will come the day right before your next holiday trip starts 😊
    </sceptical mode>

    Probably yes, I saw an ETA of 1st of June. But I think the "old" app will still be usable, so I would not panic 😉

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    @Con-Hennekens said in Next:

    @sudolea said in Next:

    <sceptical mode>
    ... and the update will come the day right before your next holiday trip starts 😊
    </sceptical mode>

    Probably yes, I saw an ETA of 1st of June. But I think the "old" app will still be usable, so I would not panic 😉

    Most likely, the old app will disapear the same moment the new one becomes available

    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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    • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

      @Con-Hennekens said in Next:

      @sudolea said in Next:

      <sceptical mode>
      ... and the update will come the day right before your next holiday trip starts 😊
      </sceptical mode>

      Probably yes, I saw an ETA of 1st of June. But I think the "old" app will still be usable, so I would not panic 😉

      Most likely, the old app will disapear the same moment the new one becomes available

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      Alpha tester
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      @Drabslab said in Next:

      Most likely, the old app will disapear the same moment the new one becomes available

      Why?

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Drabslab said in Next:

        Most likely, the old app will disapear the same moment the new one becomes available

        Why?

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        @Con-Hennekens

        Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

        and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

        Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

        Hence, good testing making sure that it all works, and good communication (and here i don't mean the typical publicity messages) well on time (not 24h before the new version rolls out) would be key.

        A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

        It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

          @Con-Hennekens

          Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

          and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

          Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

          Hence, good testing making sure that it all works, and good communication (and here i don't mean the typical publicity messages) well on time (not 24h before the new version rolls out) would be key.

          A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

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          RouteXpert
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          @Drabslab said in Next:

          @Con-Hennekens

          Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

          and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

          The current MRA Navigation is a separate app the new MRA Navigation Next will run inside MRA Mobile so for the transition period both app will run.

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

            @Con-Hennekens

            Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

            and it is general practice to make "old" versions dissapear from production as soon as a new one is available because it takes a lot of effort and resources to maintain two versions in parrallel. Often also because the underlying databases are not fully compatible.

            Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

            Hence, good testing making sure that it all works, and good communication (and here i don't mean the typical publicity messages) well on time (not 24h before the new version rolls out) would be key.

            A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

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            wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
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            @Drabslab said in Next:

            @Con-Hennekens

            Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

            That was an inline update. It has been told multiple times Next will be a complete new separate app and therefore it will not interfere with the existing Navigation app.

            Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

            The "anger" we have seen probably DOES NOT make it potentially the best thing after all?

            A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

            Having it in a separate app has the benefit of being able to manage the transition yourself 😉 If learned ANYTHING from the Mobile app, it is that an automatic irreversible upgrade is not desirable, especially with that many changes, and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

              @Drabslab said in Next:

              @Con-Hennekens

              Because, to my knowledge, the same happened when the new version of "mobile" was introduced"

              That was an inline update. It has been told multiple times Next will be a complete new separate app and therefore it will not interfere with the existing Navigation app.

              Potentially, the best thing will be to have an automated and automatic upgrade from the current nav app, to next, which may of course lead to some confusion as we have seen in the past when updates of mobile and the routeplanner caused quite some anger on this forum.

              The "anger" we have seen probably DOES NOT make it potentially the best thing after all?

              A managed upgrade scenario may perhaps be beneficial.

              Having it in a separate app has the benefit of being able to manage the transition yourself 😉 If learned ANYTHING from the Mobile app, it is that an automatic irreversible upgrade is not desirable, especially with that many changes, and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

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              @Con-Hennekens said in Next:

              and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

              yep, timing is crucial, and decent communication ...

              To summarise, it ain't that easy. 🙂

              It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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              • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                @Con-Hennekens said in Next:

                and especially mid season for the largest part of the userbase.

                yep, timing is crucial, and decent communication ...

                To summarise, it ain't that easy. 🙂

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                @Drabslab @Con-Hennekens The Navigation app (as it now is) will continue to exist in the early stages of Navigation Next. This is because the Next app is developed with MyRoute-app Mobile (yeej, finally one single app to rule them all).

                This means that the Navigation app will always be a backup during the first months. Somewhere early 2023 the Navigation app will be removed and the Mobile app (with Navigation Next in it) will have fully replaced the Navigation app as you now know it.

                So long story short. When we are done, there is one app. The MyRoute-app 😉

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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                  @Drabslab @Con-Hennekens The Navigation app (as it now is) will continue to exist in the early stages of Navigation Next. This is because the Next app is developed with MyRoute-app Mobile (yeej, finally one single app to rule them all).

                  This means that the Navigation app will always be a backup during the first months. Somewhere early 2023 the Navigation app will be removed and the Mobile app (with Navigation Next in it) will have fully replaced the Navigation app as you now know it.

                  So long story short. When we are done, there is one app. The MyRoute-app 😉

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                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in Next:

                  @Drabslab @Con-Hennekens (yeej, finally one single app to rule them all).

                  UNLIMITED POWER

                  Sauron will love it!!!

                  It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    #16

                    hi guys I wrote twice to the MRA navigation next form, no answer.
                    Before buying MRA Navigation next in presale, I ask if the new app will have the navigation item menu and voice navigation in Italian.

                    thanks

                    Davide

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                    • Davide Meloncelliundefined Davide Meloncelli

                      hi guys I wrote twice to the MRA navigation next form, no answer.
                      Before buying MRA Navigation next in presale, I ask if the new app will have the navigation item menu and voice navigation in Italian.

                      thanks

                      Davide

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                      RouteXpert
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                      @Davide-Meloncelli

                      Hi @Davide-Meloncelli Yes, the intention is to offer Next in the languages that are also available on the website. (Dutch, English, German, Spanish, French, Italian)

                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                        I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

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                        • Tony 13undefined Tony 13

                          I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

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                          RouteXpert
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                          @Tony-13

                          When you have MRA Navigation lifetime nothing changes

                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                          • Tony 13undefined Tony 13

                            I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

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                            RouteXpert
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                            @Tony-13 said in Next:

                            I was trying to find out what will happen to my lifetime Gold membership. I had asked MRA over a week ago but heard nothing back. I have not found anything on this. Anyone know what is happening?

                            Hi Tony. Your question is a little confusing because lifetime gold is referring to the route planner. MRA Navigation does not have a gold account option.
                            If however you have a lifetime account for MRA Navigation then when MRA Navigation Next is released, your lifetime account will automatically be upgraded to MRA Navigation Next.

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                              thanks Nick. That must reflect my confusion. I thought Next was combining the routing and navigation into one app.

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