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The compas direction on the elevation circle is wrong

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  • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

    @LennyO I’m not responsible for the manual and personally I think the wording is perfectly clear. The view is called ‘North up’ and the definition in the manual says
    ‘North will always be up’ I’m unsure what part is unclear!

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    @Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
    Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
    The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
    if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
    Thank you!

    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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    • LennyO LennyO

      @Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
      Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
      The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
      if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
      Thank you!

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      LennyO said:

      @Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
      Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
      The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
      if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
      Thank you!

      @nick-carthew Nick, to clarify my previous post I should add - when you are in fact heading North on the map in North up orientation, the Red segment may be pointing somewhere else, but be at the 12 o'clock. And since the Red segment always shows where the North is there is a conflict in the definition in the manual.

      Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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      • LennyO LennyO

        LennyO said:

        @Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
        Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
        The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
        if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
        Thank you!

        @nick-carthew Nick, to clarify my previous post I should add - when you are in fact heading North on the map in North up orientation, the Red segment may be pointing somewhere else, but be at the 12 o'clock. And since the Red segment always shows where the North is there is a conflict in the definition in the manual.

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        @LennyO
        Corjan is aware of the situation and although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.

        Always willing to help if I can.
        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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        • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

          @LennyO
          Corjan is aware of the situation and although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.

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          @Nick-Carthew said:

          although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.

          I don’t? 😮

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          • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

            @Nick-Carthew said:

            although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.

            I don’t? 😮

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            @Corjan-Meijerink A direct contradiction 😉

            Always willing to help if I can.
            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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            • LennyO LennyO

              @Rob-Verhoeff Bravo! That would stop the confusion for everyone! And this change should be announced to all, as I suspect many people are confused to the point of being frustrated.... me included.

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              @LennyO, "North will always be up" in this context refers to the north of the map, not to the north pole 😉

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                I know the North Pole and North on the map are not exact the same. But considering the few segments of the compass, should then the north pole and north on the map be same?

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                  I know the North Pole and North on the map are not exact the same. But considering the few segments of the compass, should then the north pole and north on the map be same?

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                  @M.-Schrijver, I don't think that makes it easier for most 😉

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                    @M.-Schrijver, I don't think that makes it easier for most 😉

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                    @Con-Hennekens said:

                    @M.-Schrijver, I don't think that makes it easier for most 😉

                    🙂
                    then this post goes from 50 to 500 😉

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                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                      @LennyO, "North will always be up" in this context refers to the north of the map, not to the north pole 😉

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                      @Con-Hennekens Ok, Con! I get it! Not the most intuitive implementation, but it is what it is....
                      Having said that, I strongly feel that the manual needs to be updated to state what you and @rob-verhoeff are saying.
                      Every GPS unit is actually North up if you select such an orientation.
                      Who would ever deduce, reading the manual, that North does not really mean North when it clearly strates that " in the North Up camera vew ( map orientation ) North will always be up".
                      When people read "North" they can not imagine that it means "North of the map"....

                      And that includes myself, which caused a major confusion in my head.
                      What's going on???? I see a discrepancy between what I thought was North and the Red segment! Re-check the manual. The manual says so, then the Red segment must be wrong, correct?
                      This whoole thing could be easily resolved in two simple steps:

                      1. Update the manual
                      2. Put the N,E,S,W cardinal markings on the segmented circle.
                        DONE!
                        I am sure you would agree with that 😕

                      Many people are having issues with this thing, so something needs to be done and hopefully soon.
                      Thank you!

                      Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                        @lennyo, In "North Up" North does not mean top, UP means top (of your phone, or paper map, or whatever). Projection of a map has really nothing to do with where North is. North Up is only about how you hold the map. I agree that adding E,S and W would help for some in that it obviously does not indicate your heading, but then again North will still not always point to the top of your phone 😉

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                        • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                          @lennyo, In "North Up" North does not mean top, UP means top (of your phone, or paper map, or whatever). Projection of a map has really nothing to do with where North is. North Up is only about how you hold the map. I agree that adding E,S and W would help for some in that it obviously does not indicate your heading, but then again North will still not always point to the top of your phone 😉

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                          @Con-Hennekens Con, there is an ambiguity and it's never good. Right?

                          Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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