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  • Nick Dawsonundefined Offline
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    wrote last edited by
    #8

    Okay, today I carried out another short test when I drove to the golf club which is about 6km from the house.

    I created a new route using MyRouteApp route planner (using HERE maps as I normally use a Garmin GPS) with two points - my house, the golf club. I then added two additional points on that route (§one I changed to a shaping point and thenl second is a waypoint).

    I reordered then so that the route makes sense ( I have created hundreds of routes all over the World and guide groups of riders using my routes so do know what I am doing).

    All good

    Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).

    I pressed the compass button a number of times to no avail.

    I got onto the public road and the screen still showed me near my house.

    On occasions it jumped to other locations (even a built up area when there certainly isn't one on the way to my golf club).

    At times I seemed to be in a field then suddenly it found where I was (after about 5km of driving) but then froze again at that spot.

    I arrived at the golf course and it again seemed to wake up but then wanted me to go to waypoint 2 which wasn't that far from my house!

    I thought that perhaps it was the HERE maps that were the issue so on the way back, I simply chose to navigate to my home address.

    That started off well for the first two minutes but as I chose to drive along very minor roads, MRA lost where I was and froze with me still in the golf club.

    I thought that this may be a GPS issue so cancelled everything and loaded WAZE, out in my home address and navigated without a problem to my house

    I have just checked my settings for location (for the MRA app and it allows when using the app).

    So, I really don't know what to do now!

    Help!!

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    • Nick Dawsonundefined Nick Dawson

      Okay, today I carried out another short test when I drove to the golf club which is about 6km from the house.

      I created a new route using MyRouteApp route planner (using HERE maps as I normally use a Garmin GPS) with two points - my house, the golf club. I then added two additional points on that route (§one I changed to a shaping point and thenl second is a waypoint).

      I reordered then so that the route makes sense ( I have created hundreds of routes all over the World and guide groups of riders using my routes so do know what I am doing).

      All good

      Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).

      I pressed the compass button a number of times to no avail.

      I got onto the public road and the screen still showed me near my house.

      On occasions it jumped to other locations (even a built up area when there certainly isn't one on the way to my golf club).

      At times I seemed to be in a field then suddenly it found where I was (after about 5km of driving) but then froze again at that spot.

      I arrived at the golf course and it again seemed to wake up but then wanted me to go to waypoint 2 which wasn't that far from my house!

      I thought that perhaps it was the HERE maps that were the issue so on the way back, I simply chose to navigate to my home address.

      That started off well for the first two minutes but as I chose to drive along very minor roads, MRA lost where I was and froze with me still in the golf club.

      I thought that this may be a GPS issue so cancelled everything and loaded WAZE, out in my home address and navigated without a problem to my house

      I have just checked my settings for location (for the MRA app and it allows when using the app).

      So, I really don't know what to do now!

      Help!!

      Lluis Arasanzundefined Online
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      Lluis Arasanz
      wrote last edited by
      #9

      @Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:

      Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).

      @Nick-Dawson Only one question:

      You use navigation directly from your phone or you have it connected to some AndroidAuto Device?

      The behavior you explain is the "same" I noted on MRA when I use AA devices..

      Thanks in Advance

      Lluis Arasanz

      • BMW F750GS
        MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device
      • Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
        Tasker and MMLink SW for Android App Control
      • iPhone 14 with Beta MyRoute-App (personal and primary CP use)
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      • Nick Dawsonundefined Nick Dawson

        Okay, today I carried out another short test when I drove to the golf club which is about 6km from the house.

        I created a new route using MyRouteApp route planner (using HERE maps as I normally use a Garmin GPS) with two points - my house, the golf club. I then added two additional points on that route (§one I changed to a shaping point and thenl second is a waypoint).

        I reordered then so that the route makes sense ( I have created hundreds of routes all over the World and guide groups of riders using my routes so do know what I am doing).

        All good

        Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).

        I pressed the compass button a number of times to no avail.

        I got onto the public road and the screen still showed me near my house.

        On occasions it jumped to other locations (even a built up area when there certainly isn't one on the way to my golf club).

        At times I seemed to be in a field then suddenly it found where I was (after about 5km of driving) but then froze again at that spot.

        I arrived at the golf course and it again seemed to wake up but then wanted me to go to waypoint 2 which wasn't that far from my house!

        I thought that perhaps it was the HERE maps that were the issue so on the way back, I simply chose to navigate to my home address.

        That started off well for the first two minutes but as I chose to drive along very minor roads, MRA lost where I was and froze with me still in the golf club.

        I thought that this may be a GPS issue so cancelled everything and loaded WAZE, out in my home address and navigated without a problem to my house

        I have just checked my settings for location (for the MRA app and it allows when using the app).

        So, I really don't know what to do now!

        Help!!

        Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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        Con Hennekens
        Alpha tester
        wrote last edited by
        #10

        @Nick-Dawson, From your top message I assumed that you are using the app natively on your phone, but like @Lluis-Arasanz indicates the problem looks like some people still experience with AA/CP devices.

        If you indeed use an AA/CP device, would you mind testing this:

        In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

        I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, it will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not 😉

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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        • Lluis Arasanzundefined Lluis Arasanz

          @Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:

          Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).

          @Nick-Dawson Only one question:

          You use navigation directly from your phone or you have it connected to some AndroidAuto Device?

          The behavior you explain is the "same" I noted on MRA when I use AA devices..

          Thanks in Advance

          Nick Dawsonundefined Offline
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          Nick Dawson
          wrote last edited by Nick Dawson
          #11

          @Lluis-Arasanz this was directly from my phone but my intention is to use it connected to a Carplay device

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Nick-Dawson, From your top message I assumed that you are using the app natively on your phone, but like @Lluis-Arasanz indicates the problem looks like some people still experience with AA/CP devices.

            If you indeed use an AA/CP device, would you mind testing this:

            In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

            I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, it will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not 😉

            Nick Dawsonundefined Offline
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            Nick Dawson
            wrote last edited by
            #12

            @Con-Hennekens I think that you have hit it on the head so to speak.

            My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.

            I will try that and update here.

            Thank you

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            • Nick Dawsonundefined Nick Dawson

              @Con-Hennekens I think that you have hit it on the head so to speak.

              My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.

              I will try that and update here.

              Thank you

              Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote last edited by
              #13

              @Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:

              My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.

              Hmm, in case you were NOT connected to an AA/CP device, it does not sound plausible at all 😉
              Please confirm that the location permission for the MRA app is set to "always" and "exact".

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Nick-Dawson, From your top message I assumed that you are using the app natively on your phone, but like @Lluis-Arasanz indicates the problem looks like some people still experience with AA/CP devices.

                If you indeed use an AA/CP device, would you mind testing this:

                In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

                I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, it will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not 😉

                Nick Dawsonundefined Offline
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                Nick Dawson
                wrote last edited by
                #14

                @Con-Hennekens one problem here.

                You are using Android Auto but this is not something that I use

                I will force close MRA and restart my phone (should have tried this earlier) and see if that helps.

                If in doubt - do a restart!!!

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                • Nick Dawsonundefined Nick Dawson

                  @Lluis-Arasanz this was directly from my phone but my intention is to use it connected to a Carplay device

                  Lluis Arasanzundefined Online
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                  Lluis Arasanz
                  wrote last edited by
                  #15

                  @Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:

                  Lluis-Arasanz this was directly from my phone but my intention is to use it connected to a Carplay device

                  @Nick-Dawson , I use a Android Device directly with no problem (Samsung A14) and Before it I Use both Xiaomi Note 14 and Xiaomi Mi MAx3. Both of them with no problems about location, but with earlier Myroute-App app, not latest.

                  Loosing location service in such a way is very strange. Have you tried "Free Ride" mode when driving or even walking? This, I think, can be a good check to see if only happens when driving (bike or car) ( related to installaton o vehicle) or even alone walking which is a raw test: Only you and you device

                  Hope this helps to bring some light.

                  Regards

                  Lluis Arasanz

                  • BMW F750GS
                    MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device
                  • Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
                    Tasker and MMLink SW for Android App Control
                  • iPhone 14 with Beta MyRoute-App (personal and primary CP use)
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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:

                    My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.

                    Hmm, in case you were NOT connected to an AA/CP device, it does not sound plausible at all 😉
                    Please confirm that the location permission for the MRA app is set to "always" and "exact".

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                    Nick Dawson
                    wrote last edited by
                    #16

                    @Con-Hennekens I have it set to only when using the app and precise.

                    Th MRA navigation manual suggests that this is the setting to use rather than always (which uses it even when the app is closed - I wonder how that works?).

                    I can easily change it to always if to try this out as well.

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                    • Nick Dawsonundefined Nick Dawson

                      @Con-Hennekens I have it set to only when using the app and precise.

                      Th MRA navigation manual suggests that this is the setting to use rather than always (which uses it even when the app is closed - I wonder how that works?).

                      I can easily change it to always if to try this out as well.

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                      Con Hennekens
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote last edited by
                      #17

                      @Nick-Dawson, no that's just fine, "exact" was my target 😉 . It is just some tracking when the app is not in the foreground might fail if you set "only when using app".

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #18

                        Walking test with the dog this morning worked fine after restarting my device yesterday.

                        Will test in the car again in a few days..

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