Centre Map button
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Hello,
yesterday, I used the Navigation application for the first time in a number of years as I intend to use it in South America in Match and April with offline maps as I explore Patagonia by motorcycle.
I thought that I should become familiar with the product so created a route to a local restaurant with a shaping point and a waypoint en-route.
I used my phone running Xiaomi Hyper OS andAndrod using and v5.0.2 - 442 of MRA.
Unfortunately I got a little bit mixed up and lost the line I was supposed to be following. I tried to zoom out and move the map back to where I was but, as I was driving at the time, I was unsuccessful.
Fortunately I knew where I was going!
On the way back home I reversed the route and all started off well but again the route on the map differed from the actual route I had planned (we are talking about rural France here and not many actual options). The directions were not keeping up with where I was and neither was the map. It was as though the route was working in reverse (even through I had changed the route on MRA planning and was running that).
Often, my position was in the middle of nowhere, in fields or in villages when I was obviously on a road.
All the above is very likely user error and I will be carrying out further tests over the next few weeks so that, when I really need it, it works for me!
One key take from my experience was that often, on the map, I couldn't see my position or where I was.
I searched for some sort of "re-centre" button whilst hitting the zoom buttons and scrolling through the compass options between north up, dynamic etc. etc.
Again, obviously user error as it works for everyone else!
Any advice or plans for a re-centre button in future releases?
Nick
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Hello,
yesterday, I used the Navigation application for the first time in a number of years as I intend to use it in South America in Match and April with offline maps as I explore Patagonia by motorcycle.
I thought that I should become familiar with the product so created a route to a local restaurant with a shaping point and a waypoint en-route.
I used my phone running Xiaomi Hyper OS andAndrod using and v5.0.2 - 442 of MRA.
Unfortunately I got a little bit mixed up and lost the line I was supposed to be following. I tried to zoom out and move the map back to where I was but, as I was driving at the time, I was unsuccessful.
Fortunately I knew where I was going!
On the way back home I reversed the route and all started off well but again the route on the map differed from the actual route I had planned (we are talking about rural France here and not many actual options). The directions were not keeping up with where I was and neither was the map. It was as though the route was working in reverse (even through I had changed the route on MRA planning and was running that).
Often, my position was in the middle of nowhere, in fields or in villages when I was obviously on a road.
All the above is very likely user error and I will be carrying out further tests over the next few weeks so that, when I really need it, it works for me!
One key take from my experience was that often, on the map, I couldn't see my position or where I was.
I searched for some sort of "re-centre" button whilst hitting the zoom buttons and scrolling through the compass options between north up, dynamic etc. etc.
Again, obviously user error as it works for everyone else!
Any advice or plans for a re-centre button in future releases?
Nick
@Nick-Dawson ...did you test the same areas to navigate by other apps? For my understanding, your issues sounds like bad gps receive. Can be between high buildings, forests, narrow valleys, etc.
Nothing is impossible ;-)
In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner. -
@Nick-Dawson ...did you test the same areas to navigate by other apps? For my understanding, your issues sounds like bad gps receive. Can be between high buildings, forests, narrow valleys, etc.
@Guzzist yes I did.
I ended up near the restaurant using MRA but a the wrong end of a one way street so, as I was short on time, I switched to WAZE which took me back a few hundred yards, along to another roundabout the back to the other end of that one way street. The restaurant was a couple of hundred metres away.
I have used MRA navigation a couple of times successfully with simply entering a destination - and it worked perfectly.
This was the first time I used it with routes (and the route was pretty straightforward).
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@Guzzist yes I did.
I ended up near the restaurant using MRA but a the wrong end of a one way street so, as I was short on time, I switched to WAZE which took me back a few hundred yards, along to another roundabout the back to the other end of that one way street. The restaurant was a couple of hundred metres away.
I have used MRA navigation a couple of times successfully with simply entering a destination - and it worked perfectly.
This was the first time I used it with routes (and the route was pretty straightforward).
@Nick-Dawson ... sorry Nick, I still have a solution for you. Could slightly be a map error also.
If you talk about route: did you plan your route with several waypoints (routepoints) - or was it simply a A to B route, or a roundtrip?I use MRA for route planning and afterwards MyRoute-App for navigation since years in Europe. But such an issue - my location is indicated in the map at a wrong area - I have never seen. Only exception: as I wrote in big cities between skyscrapers, in tunnels, etc...
Nothing is impossible ;-)
In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner. -
Hello,
yesterday, I used the Navigation application for the first time in a number of years as I intend to use it in South America in Match and April with offline maps as I explore Patagonia by motorcycle.
I thought that I should become familiar with the product so created a route to a local restaurant with a shaping point and a waypoint en-route.
I used my phone running Xiaomi Hyper OS andAndrod using and v5.0.2 - 442 of MRA.
Unfortunately I got a little bit mixed up and lost the line I was supposed to be following. I tried to zoom out and move the map back to where I was but, as I was driving at the time, I was unsuccessful.
Fortunately I knew where I was going!
On the way back home I reversed the route and all started off well but again the route on the map differed from the actual route I had planned (we are talking about rural France here and not many actual options). The directions were not keeping up with where I was and neither was the map. It was as though the route was working in reverse (even through I had changed the route on MRA planning and was running that).
Often, my position was in the middle of nowhere, in fields or in villages when I was obviously on a road.
All the above is very likely user error and I will be carrying out further tests over the next few weeks so that, when I really need it, it works for me!
One key take from my experience was that often, on the map, I couldn't see my position or where I was.
I searched for some sort of "re-centre" button whilst hitting the zoom buttons and scrolling through the compass options between north up, dynamic etc. etc.
Again, obviously user error as it works for everyone else!
Any advice or plans for a re-centre button in future releases?
Nick
- the recenter button is simply the compass icon.
- The strange behaviour (in reverse) on your way back could be by route points being placed on one way streets, or the wrong side of a road with split lanes.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app -
@Nick-Dawson ... sorry Nick, I still have a solution for you. Could slightly be a map error also.
If you talk about route: did you plan your route with several waypoints (routepoints) - or was it simply a A to B route, or a roundtrip?I use MRA for route planning and afterwards MyRoute-App for navigation since years in Europe. But such an issue - my location is indicated in the map at a wrong area - I have never seen. Only exception: as I wrote in big cities between skyscrapers, in tunnels, etc...
@Guzzist thank you for your reply.
I do the same as you regarding planning and utilisation so it is not that.
I have another test tomorrow on my way to the golf course. Four points (start, finish,mone shaping point and one waypoint).
Total distance about 6km.
Rural roads.
Let's see what happens.
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- the recenter button is simply the compass icon.
- The strange behaviour (in reverse) on your way back could be by route points being placed on one way streets, or the wrong side of a road with split lanes.
@Con-Hennekens thank you for your response.
I have another test tomorrow.
The points were not on one way streets or split lanes (this is rural France!).
Let's put that day down to experience and see how my next test goes.
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Okay, today I carried out another short test when I drove to the golf club which is about 6km from the house.
I created a new route using MyRouteApp route planner (using HERE maps as I normally use a Garmin GPS) with two points - my house, the golf club. I then added two additional points on that route (§one I changed to a shaping point and thenl second is a waypoint).
I reordered then so that the route makes sense ( I have created hundreds of routes all over the World and guide groups of riders using my routes so do know what I am doing).
All good
Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).
I pressed the compass button a number of times to no avail.
I got onto the public road and the screen still showed me near my house.
On occasions it jumped to other locations (even a built up area when there certainly isn't one on the way to my golf club).
At times I seemed to be in a field then suddenly it found where I was (after about 5km of driving) but then froze again at that spot.
I arrived at the golf course and it again seemed to wake up but then wanted me to go to waypoint 2 which wasn't that far from my house!
I thought that perhaps it was the HERE maps that were the issue so on the way back, I simply chose to navigate to my home address.
That started off well for the first two minutes but as I chose to drive along very minor roads, MRA lost where I was and froze with me still in the golf club.
I thought that this may be a GPS issue so cancelled everything and loaded WAZE, out in my home address and navigated without a problem to my house
I have just checked my settings for location (for the MRA app and it allows when using the app).
So, I really don't know what to do now!
Help!!
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Okay, today I carried out another short test when I drove to the golf club which is about 6km from the house.
I created a new route using MyRouteApp route planner (using HERE maps as I normally use a Garmin GPS) with two points - my house, the golf club. I then added two additional points on that route (§one I changed to a shaping point and thenl second is a waypoint).
I reordered then so that the route makes sense ( I have created hundreds of routes all over the World and guide groups of riders using my routes so do know what I am doing).
All good
Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).
I pressed the compass button a number of times to no avail.
I got onto the public road and the screen still showed me near my house.
On occasions it jumped to other locations (even a built up area when there certainly isn't one on the way to my golf club).
At times I seemed to be in a field then suddenly it found where I was (after about 5km of driving) but then froze again at that spot.
I arrived at the golf course and it again seemed to wake up but then wanted me to go to waypoint 2 which wasn't that far from my house!
I thought that perhaps it was the HERE maps that were the issue so on the way back, I simply chose to navigate to my home address.
That started off well for the first two minutes but as I chose to drive along very minor roads, MRA lost where I was and froze with me still in the golf club.
I thought that this may be a GPS issue so cancelled everything and loaded WAZE, out in my home address and navigated without a problem to my house
I have just checked my settings for location (for the MRA app and it allows when using the app).
So, I really don't know what to do now!
Help!!
@Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:
Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).
@Nick-Dawson Only one question:
You use navigation directly from your phone or you have it connected to some AndroidAuto Device?
The behavior you explain is the "same" I noted on MRA when I use AA devices..
Thanks in Advance
Lluis Arasanz
- BMW F750GS
MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device - Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
Tasker and MMLink SW for Android App Control - iPhone 14 with Beta MyRoute-App (personal and primary CP use)
- BMW F750GS
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Okay, today I carried out another short test when I drove to the golf club which is about 6km from the house.
I created a new route using MyRouteApp route planner (using HERE maps as I normally use a Garmin GPS) with two points - my house, the golf club. I then added two additional points on that route (§one I changed to a shaping point and thenl second is a waypoint).
I reordered then so that the route makes sense ( I have created hundreds of routes all over the World and guide groups of riders using my routes so do know what I am doing).
All good
Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).
I pressed the compass button a number of times to no avail.
I got onto the public road and the screen still showed me near my house.
On occasions it jumped to other locations (even a built up area when there certainly isn't one on the way to my golf club).
At times I seemed to be in a field then suddenly it found where I was (after about 5km of driving) but then froze again at that spot.
I arrived at the golf course and it again seemed to wake up but then wanted me to go to waypoint 2 which wasn't that far from my house!
I thought that perhaps it was the HERE maps that were the issue so on the way back, I simply chose to navigate to my home address.
That started off well for the first two minutes but as I chose to drive along very minor roads, MRA lost where I was and froze with me still in the golf club.
I thought that this may be a GPS issue so cancelled everything and loaded WAZE, out in my home address and navigated without a problem to my house
I have just checked my settings for location (for the MRA app and it allows when using the app).
So, I really don't know what to do now!
Help!!
@Nick-Dawson, From your top message I assumed that you are using the app natively on your phone, but like @Lluis-Arasanz indicates the problem looks like some people still experience with AA/CP devices.
If you indeed use an AA/CP device, would you mind testing this:
In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it
I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, it will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app -
@Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:
Started off in the garage and MRA showed me in the garage. When I left on the small private road from our house (about 1km) it started to show where I was then froze).
@Nick-Dawson Only one question:
You use navigation directly from your phone or you have it connected to some AndroidAuto Device?
The behavior you explain is the "same" I noted on MRA when I use AA devices..
Thanks in Advance
@Lluis-Arasanz this was directly from my phone but my intention is to use it connected to a Carplay device
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@Nick-Dawson, From your top message I assumed that you are using the app natively on your phone, but like @Lluis-Arasanz indicates the problem looks like some people still experience with AA/CP devices.
If you indeed use an AA/CP device, would you mind testing this:
In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it
I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, it will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not
@Con-Hennekens I think that you have hit it on the head so to speak.
My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.
I will try that and update here.
Thank you
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@Con-Hennekens I think that you have hit it on the head so to speak.
My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.
I will try that and update here.
Thank you
@Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:
My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.
Hmm, in case you were NOT connected to an AA/CP device, it does not sound plausible at all
Please confirm that the location permission for the MRA app is set to "always" and "exact".I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app -
@Nick-Dawson, From your top message I assumed that you are using the app natively on your phone, but like @Lluis-Arasanz indicates the problem looks like some people still experience with AA/CP devices.
If you indeed use an AA/CP device, would you mind testing this:
In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it
I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, it will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not
@Con-Hennekens one problem here.
You are using Android Auto but this is not something that I use
I will force close MRA and restart my phone (should have tried this earlier) and see if that helps.
If in doubt - do a restart!!!
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@Lluis-Arasanz this was directly from my phone but my intention is to use it connected to a Carplay device
@Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:
Lluis-Arasanz this was directly from my phone but my intention is to use it connected to a Carplay device
@Nick-Dawson , I use a Android Device directly with no problem (Samsung A14) and Before it I Use both Xiaomi Note 14 and Xiaomi Mi MAx3. Both of them with no problems about location, but with earlier Myroute-App app, not latest.
Loosing location service in such a way is very strange. Have you tried "Free Ride" mode when driving or even walking? This, I think, can be a good check to see if only happens when driving (bike or car) ( related to installaton o vehicle) or even alone walking which is a raw test: Only you and you device
Hope this helps to bring some light.
Regards
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@Nick-Dawson said in Centre Map button:
My gut feeling was that it was using the phone signal rather than the satellite so your idea sounds very plausible.
Hmm, in case you were NOT connected to an AA/CP device, it does not sound plausible at all
Please confirm that the location permission for the MRA app is set to "always" and "exact".@Con-Hennekens I have it set to only when using the app and precise.
Th MRA navigation manual suggests that this is the setting to use rather than always (which uses it even when the app is closed - I wonder how that works?).
I can easily change it to always if to try this out as well.
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@Con-Hennekens I have it set to only when using the app and precise.
Th MRA navigation manual suggests that this is the setting to use rather than always (which uses it even when the app is closed - I wonder how that works?).
I can easily change it to always if to try this out as well.
@Nick-Dawson, no that's just fine, "exact" was my target
. It is just some tracking when the app is not in the foreground might fail if you set "only when using app". -
Walking test with the dog this morning worked fine after restarting my device yesterday.
Will test in the car again in a few days..
