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Map "spinning" when standing still

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  • Erik Plaggenborgundefined Erik Plaggenborg

    said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

    @Corjan-Meijerink I use two android devices to navigate with MRA. One a Samsung S25+ and the other is the T865 from ThorkRacing. Both devices are only having a spinning map at a stand still, not while driving.

    Don't know if this information is useful, i didn't read this in this topic so thought the problem was a spinning map while driving. This never happend to my devices only at a complete stand still.

    Yesterday i drove a route A2B and the only time the "spinned" was at a complete stand still. The map turnend about 180 degrees, the minute i started moving the map turned in the correct position. This kept on happening everytime i stopped for a turn or trafficlight.

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    Marinus van Deudekom
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    wrote last edited by Marinus van Deudekom
    #57

    @Erik-Plaggenborg when the 441 update was rekeased I did a test with the T865X and for me the map didnโ€™t spin at a complete stop. Are you using the T865 or like me the T865X. As fas as I know the difference those twi is the better screen and more interval memory

    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
    Honda Silverwing GL 650
    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
    Garmin XT sold
    Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

      @Erik-Plaggenborg when the 441 update was rekeased I did a test with the T865X and for me the map didnโ€™t spin at a complete stop. Are you using the T865 or like me the T865X. As fas as I know the difference those twi is the better screen and more interval memory

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      #58

      The thread (at least how I meant it) is about the spinning when at a standstill; for me, there is no problem while moving. Unfortunately, the difficulties also occur on my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra) alone, without any Android Auto device involved, and they keep occurring with 5.02 as well. It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate. Something must have changed compared to earlier versions-be it the app, the phone, or hardware conditions-because I did not have the problem this massively in the past. It drastically reduces the usefulness of the app, and it is not good news that seemingly not much can be done to solve this. ๐Ÿ™ I do, however, appreciate the attempts to fix it, and I am hopeful that a new solution can be found and designed over time. I like the app a lot; it's been my everyday navigation app (and especially now, with free drive, even more so)-I believe in the team's ability to eventually find a fix for the phenomenon. ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿš€

      VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
      Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
      Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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        wrote last edited by
        #59

        Iโ€™ll definitely spend some more time! ๐Ÿ™‚

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          #60

          Thank you - much appreciated!

          If there's a way I could help somehow - maybe with logs, or as a beta tester, if more are needed -, I'd gladly, please just let me know.

          VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
          Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
          Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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          • pehaundefined peha

            The thread (at least how I meant it) is about the spinning when at a standstill; for me, there is no problem while moving. Unfortunately, the difficulties also occur on my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra) alone, without any Android Auto device involved, and they keep occurring with 5.02 as well. It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate. Something must have changed compared to earlier versions-be it the app, the phone, or hardware conditions-because I did not have the problem this massively in the past. It drastically reduces the usefulness of the app, and it is not good news that seemingly not much can be done to solve this. ๐Ÿ™ I do, however, appreciate the attempts to fix it, and I am hopeful that a new solution can be found and designed over time. I like the app a lot; it's been my everyday navigation app (and especially now, with free drive, even more so)-I believe in the team's ability to eventually find a fix for the phenomenon. ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿš€

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            @peha said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

            It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate.

            That in itself already is a strange phenomenon, since at speeds under a certain level, no recalculation should be triggered at all (because it is considered a stand still).

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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            • pehaundefined peha

              The thread (at least how I meant it) is about the spinning when at a standstill; for me, there is no problem while moving. Unfortunately, the difficulties also occur on my phone (Samsung S22 Ultra) alone, without any Android Auto device involved, and they keep occurring with 5.02 as well. It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate. Something must have changed compared to earlier versions-be it the app, the phone, or hardware conditions-because I did not have the problem this massively in the past. It drastically reduces the usefulness of the app, and it is not good news that seemingly not much can be done to solve this. ๐Ÿ™ I do, however, appreciate the attempts to fix it, and I am hopeful that a new solution can be found and designed over time. I like the app a lot; it's been my everyday navigation app (and especially now, with free drive, even more so)-I believe in the team's ability to eventually find a fix for the phenomenon. ๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿš€

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              @peha For me, the problem already existed with previous versions.

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @peha said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

                It happens at practically every stop, and almost every time the map then turns 180 degrees (facing the direction from where I came), causing the navigation to recalculate.

                That in itself already is a strange phenomenon, since at speeds under a certain level, no recalculation should be triggered at all (because it is considered a stand still).

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                #63

                @Con-Hennekens yesterday I noticed that in both Freedrive and A2B route when I came to a complete stop the position marker turend. Most of the time 90degrees Right. It did not recalculante. Iโ€™ve never sโ€™en it before. I was out with just my phone

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT sold
                Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  #64

                  Same for me (with the latest update!)
                  Had no problem last time on my bike but yesterday as well on my phone as on the AA screen in my car!

                  met een R1250RT met TFT en BMW Connected Ride App; de Garmin Zumo XT en My Route App in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #65

                    +1 same issue - every time I stop (at traffic lights, etc.) the map spins 180 degrees as if I'm facing the other way. Once I'm underway again it spins back and the navigation continues correctly.

                    Samsung S24 Ultra, fully patched and up to date.

                    No such issues with Google Maps or other nav programs.

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                      wrote last edited by Albert van den Elsen
                      #66

                      In my opinion this has nothing to do with MRA or other nav tooling.
                      I found this article.
                      Sorry but I cant test it, perhaps there is a solution for you in it.
                      If you don't try, you'll never know. Fingers crossed. Good luck.

                      The Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra is a fantastic device, but precisely because it is so large and packed with sensors, it can sometimes be extra sensitive to magnetic interference.

                      Here are some specific steps and tips for your S24 Ultra to stop that "spinning":

                      1. Calibrating via the hidden menu
                        You can test and reset your Samsung's sensors directly:

                      Open the Phone app and dial: #0#

                      Tap the Sensor tile.

                      Look for Magnetic Sensor. You will see a small circle with a line (the compass).

                      If the line is red and shows a "0", it is not calibrated.

                      Move your phone in a figure-8 motion until the line turns blue and a "3" appears. This indicates it is perfectly calibrated.

                      Tap the 'Back' button a few times to exit the menu.

                      1. Check your case (MagSafe accessories?)
                        The S24 Ultra is often used with cases that contain magnets (such as MagSafe-compatible rings or wallet flaps).

                      The culprit: Magnets in your case directly interfere with your S24 Ultraโ€™s magnetometer.

                      Test it: Take your phone out of the case and see if the map in Google Maps stays still. If it works correctly without the case, youโ€™ll know the magnets in the case are causing the interference.

                      1. Google Maps "Live View" calibration
                        Sometimes the magnetic field in a city (due to trams, pipes, or reinforced concrete) is too unstable for a compass.

                      In Google Maps, tap the blue dot (your location).

                      Choose the option Calibrate with Live View.

                      Use your camera to scan the buildings and street signs around you. The S24 Ultra then uses image recognition to lock in your direction, which is much more stable than the compass.

                      1. Specific S24 settings
                        Ensure your phone's "assistance" features are enabled:

                      Go to Settings > Location > Location Services.

                      Make sure Google Location Accuracy is turned on.

                      Also, turn on Wi-Fi scanning and Bluetooth scanning. This helps your phone determine your position based on nearby routers, which results in less "drift" than using GPS alone.

                      Do you happen to have a case with a magnet or a card holder on the back of your S24 Ultra?

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                      Carpe Iter Tablet V4C
                      Sena 20S EVO headset
                      Harley Davidson Road King 2017 M8.

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