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Map "spinning" when standing still

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  • Albert van den Elsenundefined Offline
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    This issue may simply be due to a weak GPS signal. I don’t think it’s related to MRA.

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    • Albert van den Elsenundefined Albert van den Elsen

      This issue may simply be due to a weak GPS signal. I don’t think it’s related to MRA.

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      @Albert-van-den-Elsen my Guess is that it's the combination of some type of phones, mostly Android based and some AA/CP devices. I havent seen the issue at all.

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        Yeah, that’s the annoying thing of these issues. It’s definitely device related so some have it, others do not. GPS positioning and especially on Android devices is not always as accurate as you’d hope.

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          #42

          With my Samsung S22 Ultra, it is reproducibly a problem that occurs with MyRouteApp, but not with Google Maps: Sitting on my couch at home, phone laying on a table (i.e., not moving at all, not being touched), after I have opened MRA on the phone, the "view direction" (map orientation) changes several times for about 90 or 180 degrees, the movement pauses some seconds and then moves again. When it finally settles, it doesn't point in the actual direction the phone faces. Moving the phone after it has "settled", the map doesn't react any longer (map not moving). The compass needle symbol changes from "triangle shape" (map rotation follows phone) to a "strike-through compass needle" (?). No AA device involved at this point. This happens only with MRA, Google Maps doesn't show any problems, and another navigation app I had (but have uninstalled a few days ago), Magic Earth, didn't either show this problem. For me, it's clearly isolated with MRA, and while I may have seen an occasional map spin in earlier versions, it is now a constant problem (as soon as the device doesn't move) and, unfortunately, dramatically reduces the actual usefulness of the app for navigation. Phone is the same; the only thing that has changed is, there have been security/firmware updates by Samsung over the years.

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          • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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            It is also MRA related. Why?
            At least on my phones, only MRA has this problem. Maybe Here is the cause. I don't know
            But just like i wrote in other topics. There are other GPS related things which only occur in MRA and not in other navigation apps

            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

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                same with me on i phone. not touching phone or anything. It flips and then flips back. doesn't happen every time but sometimes even when riding

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                  I don't doubt that it's complicated. I also didn't mean to "blame", should it have come across like this, stating that Google Maps doesn't show this phenomenon, but rather point out that it is possible to somehow avoid this problem (i.e., there's hope). I do, however, wonder why (for my setup at least) the severity/frequency of the spinning has increased to a level where it occurs at practically every stop. 🙁 Something must have changed.

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                  Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
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                    Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

                    Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

                    It is true what you say but when you have multiple navigation apps on your phone and use all of them also. And only one app have issues. Than it is pretty obvious that this app is the one which needs to fix it.

                    I know it not easy to fix this. As @Corjan-Meijerink wrote. There so many different phones and not all have these issues.

                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                      @Con-Hennekens said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

                      Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

                      It is true what you say but when you have multiple navigation apps on your phone and use all of them also. And only one app have issues. Than it is pretty obvious that this app is the one which needs to fix it.

                      I know it not easy to fix this. As @Corjan-Meijerink wrote. There so many different phones and not all have these issues.

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                      wrote last edited by
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                      @M.-Schrijver When version 5.0.2 is released you may see an improvement.

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