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Map "spinning" when standing still

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  • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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    M. Schrijver
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    #38

    I did see it on my normal navigation phone on a few trips. Today i use my daily phone, which i only use in the car for navigation (not on my bike). On this phone i saw the behaviour also
    Both were running Android Auto.
    On the bike it spins more than once on the same spot (but not constant) mostly back and forth. In the car mostly it spins only once. Just as soon as i stopped.

    Let's what the new version brings

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • Albert van den Elsenundefined Offline
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      This issue may simply be due to a weak GPS signal. I don’t think it’s related to MRA.

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      • Albert van den Elsenundefined Albert van den Elsen

        This issue may simply be due to a weak GPS signal. I don’t think it’s related to MRA.

        Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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        Marinus van Deudekom
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        wrote last edited by
        #40

        @Albert-van-den-Elsen my Guess is that it's the combination of some type of phones, mostly Android based and some AA/CP devices. I havent seen the issue at all.

        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
        Honda Silverwing GL 650
        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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          Corjan Meijerink
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          #41

          Yeah, that’s the annoying thing of these issues. It’s definitely device related so some have it, others do not. GPS positioning and especially on Android devices is not always as accurate as you’d hope.

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            peha
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            #42

            With my Samsung S22 Ultra, it is reproducibly a problem that occurs with MyRouteApp, but not with Google Maps: Sitting on my couch at home, phone laying on a table (i.e., not moving at all, not being touched), after I have opened MRA on the phone, the "view direction" (map orientation) changes several times for about 90 or 180 degrees, the movement pauses some seconds and then moves again. When it finally settles, it doesn't point in the actual direction the phone faces. Moving the phone after it has "settled", the map doesn't react any longer (map not moving). The compass needle symbol changes from "triangle shape" (map rotation follows phone) to a "strike-through compass needle" (?). No AA device involved at this point. This happens only with MRA, Google Maps doesn't show any problems, and another navigation app I had (but have uninstalled a few days ago), Magic Earth, didn't either show this problem. For me, it's clearly isolated with MRA, and while I may have seen an occasional map spin in earlier versions, it is now a constant problem (as soon as the device doesn't move) and, unfortunately, dramatically reduces the actual usefulness of the app for navigation. Phone is the same; the only thing that has changed is, there have been security/firmware updates by Samsung over the years.

            VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
            Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
            Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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            • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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              M. Schrijver
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              wrote last edited by
              #43

              It is also MRA related. Why?
              At least on my phones, only MRA has this problem. Maybe Here is the cause. I don't know
              But just like i wrote in other topics. There are other GPS related things which only occur in MRA and not in other navigation apps

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                wrote last edited by
                #44

                Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                • Donovan Smithundefined Offline
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                  #45

                  same with me on i phone. not touching phone or anything. It flips and then flips back. doesn't happen every time but sometimes even when riding

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                    #46

                    I don't doubt that it's complicated. I also didn't mean to "blame", should it have come across like this, stating that Google Maps doesn't show this phenomenon, but rather point out that it is possible to somehow avoid this problem (i.e., there's hope). I do, however, wonder why (for my setup at least) the severity/frequency of the spinning has increased to a level where it occurs at practically every stop. 🙁 Something must have changed.

                    VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
                    Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
                    Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

                      M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                      M. Schrijver
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #47

                      @Con-Hennekens said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

                      Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

                      It is true what you say but when you have multiple navigation apps on your phone and use all of them also. And only one app have issues. Than it is pretty obvious that this app is the one which needs to fix it.

                      I know it not easy to fix this. As @Corjan-Meijerink wrote. There so many different phones and not all have these issues.

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                        @Con-Hennekens said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

                        Some phone have not only GPS but also a hardware compass. These are able to "see" in which direction they are held. Phones that don't have a compass, extrapolate direction from movement. That gets very inaccurate while standing still. Then there are apps that that rely on location services only (I don't know if direction is taken from compass if available), and there are apps that have different methods of approaching hardware. It all is a little more complicated then one might think...

                        It is true what you say but when you have multiple navigation apps on your phone and use all of them also. And only one app have issues. Than it is pretty obvious that this app is the one which needs to fix it.

                        I know it not easy to fix this. As @Corjan-Meijerink wrote. There so many different phones and not all have these issues.

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                        Nick Carthew
                        RouteXpert
                        wrote last edited by
                        #48

                        @M.-Schrijver When version 5.0.2 is released you may see an improvement.

                        Always willing to help if I can.
                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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