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GPX Versions 1.1 vs 1.2 for Garmin Visually Explained

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  • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

    When I save a route created in My Route planner website using shape points and save it as 1.2 the route appears on my routes page as only a route and not a route and track. Is this normal?

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    @Simon-James-Hancock Yes. The route that shows in MRA will also be your track when it's exported.

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      I thought so, I just wanted to make sure.
      Again I want to thank everyone who has helped.

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      • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

        I thought so, I just wanted to make sure.
        Again I want to thank everyone who has helped.

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        @Simon-James-Hancock You're very welcome. Everyone has been extremely helpful in this thread and I'm grateful as well!

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          Just to summarize what I have learned.
          Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
          Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
          Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
          Save as 1.2
          Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

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            @simon-james-hancock I think with your petrol station, the symbol you have added on MRA will only appear there and not on your Zumo. If you want a symbol on the Zumo, you can add a POI on MRA and that will appear - but it will only show as a flag and with the name you have given it (default is POI) so further editing is required on the Zumo if you want to see a petrol pump. If you want a mileage and/or time countdown to the petrol station, change the shaping point to a via point which you can name and that will be retained on the Zumo (also as a flag).

            Just to recap, shaping points will not show on your Zumo using GPX1.2 but via points will.

            I'm happy to be corrected and to learn if there is a different way.

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              Has anyone tried the trip repair tool by FrankB
              Here is the link
              https://www.javawa.nl/triprepair.html

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              • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

                Just to summarize what I have learned.
                Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
                Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
                Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
                Save as 1.2
                Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

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                @Simon-James-Hancock You would have to make it a via point. Shaping points simply shape the route. There are no shaping points in the route section of a 1.2 .gpx file. There are just gpx lat/lon coordinates.

                Steve Jarrell
                Western North Carolina US

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                2025 BMW R1300GS
                2025 Can-Am Spyder
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                  As I understand it if I make it a via point I will have to stop there otherwise will be rerouted back.
                  I just want to add the location of petrol stations for referance when I might need them along the route.

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                  • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

                    Has anyone tried the trip repair tool by FrankB
                    Here is the link
                    https://www.javawa.nl/triprepair.html

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                    @Simon-James-Hancock

                    Trip Manager by FrankB is brilliant. Too much to go into detail here. Best bet is to go to https://zumouserforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3150 which has a full discussion on the features, functions, links, documentation etc. for Trip Manager.

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                    • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

                      Just to summarize what I have learned.
                      Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
                      Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
                      Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
                      Save as 1.2
                      Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

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                      @Simon-James-Hancock said:

                      Just to summarize what I have learned.
                      Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
                      Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
                      Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
                      Save as 1.2
                      Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

                      There is no specific need for using HERE as the base map when creating a GPX. It doesn't matter at all for 1.2, and if you have enough shaping points, it shouldn't make a difference using 1.1.

                      HERE can be troublesome unless you actually need it for the NN app, where it's required. I've been using OSM exclusively for some time now, and it's a solid choice.

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                      • John S Parry John S Parry

                        @Simon-James-Hancock said:

                        Just to summarize what I have learned.
                        Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
                        Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
                        Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
                        Save as 1.2
                        Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

                        There is no specific need for using HERE as the base map when creating a GPX. It doesn't matter at all for 1.2, and if you have enough shaping points, it shouldn't make a difference using 1.1.

                        HERE can be troublesome unless you actually need it for the NN app, where it's required. I've been using OSM exclusively for some time now, and it's a solid choice.

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                        @John-S-Parry said:

                        There is no specific need for using HERE as the base map when creating a GPX. It doesn't matter at all for 1.2, and if you have enough shaping points, it shouldn't make a difference using 1.1.

                        That's not true. If you want to use the 1.2 file Here map is mandatory.
                        Since there is quite a difference between Here and TomTom you will certainly have a bad route using OSM of TomTom for you planning.
                        On top of that all Garmin systems are Here based

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