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[Martin Woodford]

OK. So here's my original route, (377.32 miles) I hope it's public
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/13569227
When I use expand to add just one more point (15, up from 14) it becomes 480.85 miles and point 8 has been added between poins 5 and 6, both of which are on the correct side of the road.

[Brian McG]

@Martin-Woodford try deleting the 2 points on the UK side of the channel then use the expand function
I think the ferry / tunnel maybe has something to do with the order / timing in this example getting really mixed up
after I did that then it was just the usual overpass errors

[Martin Woodford]

Hi @brian-mcg
Thank you. Yes, that works. I very much appreciate the experience you've shared in this thread.
However - to the MRA team, the expand function is part of what we pay for. I don't expect to have to rely on the knowledge and goodwill of forum members to make something work properly.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Martin-Woodford The first impression on opening your route

You can see that the point 6, 7 and 8 are not in a logical order resulting in a dark black line as I suspected

next problem is indeed like @brian-mcg suspected the starting point on the other end off the tunnel / ferry witch resulted in the route being verry long. Deleting the first 2 points will result in the route being expanded like you want. In my case I expanded to 20 points.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Martin-Woodford I have to put in a good word for the team. As you can see part of the failure was due to a mistake in your route. The other part is that you didn't know that expanding a route in witch a tunnel or Ferry plays a roll, you"ll get strange results. So no mistake by MRA.
Beeing a RouteXpert myself I must confess, witch rarely happens, that I didn't know the Ferry bit myself.

[Martin Woodford]

Absolutely not. This is my original 14 point route
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/13569227

[Martin Woodford]

The new point number 8 can be identified as an MRA expand point because it's labelled "waypoint" the ones I manually placed have road numbers

[Martin Woodford]

I don't see how "expanding a route in witch a tunnel or Ferry plays a roll, you"ll get strange results. So no mistake by MRA" can be the case. Why should a tunnel or ferry mean the results are strange ? I'm in Norway at the moment, there are hundreds of tunnels and ferries should I expect strange results everytime one is on my route ?

[Marinus van Deudekom]

The problem occurs when you expansie the route.
In your original route you can see that the order of the shapingpoints is not logical. See my screenshot.

[Martin Woodford]

Hi @marinus-van-deudekom
Thanks for your comments. The screenshot you show is from the expanded route. This is my original 14 point, 377.32 mile route. In a moment I'll expand it in MRA and screenshot it again (MRA makes the changes in realtime and I don't know how to save versions of the original and expanded route)

[Martin Woodford]

Hi @marinus-van-deudekom
This is the expanded version. Please note the location of the new waypoint 8 and it's description.

[Martin Woodford]

I will now reset the original in MRA

[Brian McG]

@Martin-Woodford the web site planner is pretty long in the tooth, you can holler at the moon for what it is worth but nothing is going to be updated with the current version
there are plans for a complete revamp of the web site planner, what the time line is I have no clue

MRA is only a small team & they do not have the resources to fix all the old issues like this & also produce a new revamped planner
till the new site update, I am sorry but you will just have to learn to keep an eye on the mileage