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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    Thanks for the discussion here.

    Just quickly a response from me:

    • waypoints not exactly on route should never ever really lead to any problem. If the route is calculated, there is a map matched location of the waypoint that is on route
    • Android Auto does sometimes have stability issues which we continuously keep improving especially since the last 2 updates (4.3.2 and 4.3.3)
    • Every user uses MRA differently and that should just work
    • Starting from nearest waypoint should definitely not be an issue anymore unless that has been explicitly turned off

    @Thomas-Piechocki that said, your biggest two issues would then be audio and Android Auto stability?

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    @Corjan-Meijerink

    Exactly. I have no complaints about the navigation performance itself. My problem is that the app simply stops working after a few hours. Very often the voice output suddenly stops. Or only the local position is displayed, but no further navigation instructions and no local route properties such as speed limit. In these cases, I have tried restarting the MRA app and also restarting the entire phone. But when I called up MRA, I kept coming back to exactly the same point: either no sound, or only position display without navigation information for the saved route, or neither. Then you simply switch to another sat nav app and everything works perfectly for the next few hours. The next morning on the return journey, I tried again with MRA with a simple route from A via B to C. Everything was fine for the first few minutes, then a two-hour walk (phone stayed in the car) and then five kilometres further on the sound and navigation disappeared. Then two hours of trouble-free driving with Google Maps. Then tried MRA again (the waypoint now behind is skipped), sat nav works perfectly for about 30 minutes, then no sound. These are my problems with MRA.

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    • Thomas Piechockiundefined Thomas Piechocki

      @Corjan-Meijerink

      Exactly. I have no complaints about the navigation performance itself. My problem is that the app simply stops working after a few hours. Very often the voice output suddenly stops. Or only the local position is displayed, but no further navigation instructions and no local route properties such as speed limit. In these cases, I have tried restarting the MRA app and also restarting the entire phone. But when I called up MRA, I kept coming back to exactly the same point: either no sound, or only position display without navigation information for the saved route, or neither. Then you simply switch to another sat nav app and everything works perfectly for the next few hours. The next morning on the return journey, I tried again with MRA with a simple route from A via B to C. Everything was fine for the first few minutes, then a two-hour walk (phone stayed in the car) and then five kilometres further on the sound and navigation disappeared. Then two hours of trouble-free driving with Google Maps. Then tried MRA again (the waypoint now behind is skipped), sat nav works perfectly for about 30 minutes, then no sound. These are my problems with MRA.

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      @Thomas-Piechocki Interesting, thanks!
      And that was all with Android Auto?

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        OMG!
        It's an old song, but 'How Long Has This Been Going On' (ACE 1974). Listen to the song and read the lyrics at YouTube.

        I mean the discussion in this topic and the ever continuing answers: Will someone ever be convinced or will this discussion never stop?

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          @Thomas-Piechocki Interesting, thanks!
          And that was all with Android Auto?

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          @Corjan-Meijerink

          yes.

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          • Rob Veermanundefined Rob Veerman

            OMG!
            It's an old song, but 'How Long Has This Been Going On' (ACE 1974). Listen to the song and read the lyrics at YouTube.

            I mean the discussion in this topic and the ever continuing answers: Will someone ever be convinced or will this discussion never stop?

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            @Rob-Veerman

            Well then, be glad that I haven't turned to the forum every time over the last six months, but only shared my experience at the end. As various people have suggested that incorrect route planning may be one of the causes, I wanted to set the record straight. And I think it's polite to answer questions. But don't worry, everything has been said and the subject is closed for me, so you can get back to more enjoyable things.

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              #45

              Just a question.
              How do you connect your phone to AA?

              @Corjan-Meijerink did explain it already. The stability of MRA in AA or ACP not there yet. Because of this.
              How you connect to AA can affect MRA more than other apps.

              Besides this
              AA and ACP have some limitations.
              With apps like Google Maps you do not notice this so much. But when you starting using an app like MRA or TomTom Go for riding a pre-planned route. You will see those limitations.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                Just a question.
                How do you connect your phone to AA?

                @Corjan-Meijerink did explain it already. The stability of MRA in AA or ACP not there yet. Because of this.
                How you connect to AA can affect MRA more than other apps.

                Besides this
                AA and ACP have some limitations.
                With apps like Google Maps you do not notice this so much. But when you starting using an app like MRA or TomTom Go for riding a pre-planned route. You will see those limitations.

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                @M-Schrijver
                The connection is made via Bluetooth.

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @cvlmtg said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

                  not a simpler app, just a smarter one

                  No, I really think a simpler one. You cannot automate a thinking process for everyone in general. What is smart for you, can be very dumb for me (en vice versa of course). Many features lead to many switches and toggles and sometimes it is too much for the one, while the other desires even more. 😉

                  I'm not here to bash the MRA team

                  That's fine, I was not trying to bash back either 😉

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                  @Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

                  not a simpler app, just a smarter one

                  No, I really think a simpler one. You cannot automate a thinking process for everyone in general. What is smart for you, can be very dumb for me (en vice versa of course). Many features lead to many switches and toggles and sometimes it is too much for the one, while the other desires even more. 😉

                  Can't think of any situation where I need a switch to tell the app not to use the internet because there is no internet.

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

                    not a simpler app, just a smarter one

                    No, I really think a simpler one. You cannot automate a thinking process for everyone in general. What is smart for you, can be very dumb for me (en vice versa of course). Many features lead to many switches and toggles and sometimes it is too much for the one, while the other desires even more. 😉

                    Can't think of any situation where I need a switch to tell the app not to use the internet because there is no internet.

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                    @cvlmtg said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

                    Can't think of any situation where I need a switch to tell the app not to use the internet because there is no internet.

                    That switch is there to prevent data usage when there actually IS an internet connection. Also to prevent the app from accidentally using internet data when you don't want that. It's not that difficult...

                    I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                    I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      @Thomas-Piechocki Interesting, thanks!
                      And that was all with Android Auto?

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                      @Corjan-Meijerink sort of off topic but here is something that I discovered with Android Auto and my Africa Twin which might help some folk.

                      I recently got a new phone a Motorola edge 40 neo (Android14). When I used it for Android Auto plugged into the car for AA or if I tried it on my Africa Twin it would invariably operate normally for a while, then repeatedly cycle on and off AA every couple of minutes. I never had this when using my old Motorola G8 or G7. I tried a few different leads and that did not make any difference, then I tried using wireless AA in the car and it never glitched. Long story short after a lot of Googling and my own observations, I realised that the glitching started when the phone Battery was 100% full. Some phones are set up so that Android issues regular notifications when the battery is 100% full. Flashing the phone screen at a regular interval (completely pointless??). This appears to cause Android auto to glitch. Anyhow, I turned this notification off on the phone (not easy to find as its part of the OS) and have had no issues since. My old MotoG8 (Android 11) and my wifes old MotoG7 (Android 10) had the 100% charged warning switched off by default. This might help someone who is having similar issues.

                      The glitch affected all apps.

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @cvlmtg said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

                        Can't think of any situation where I need a switch to tell the app not to use the internet because there is no internet.

                        That switch is there to prevent data usage when there actually IS an internet connection. Also to prevent the app from accidentally using internet data when you don't want that. It's not that difficult...

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                        @Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-App - worst navigation experience ever:

                        That switch is there to prevent data usage when there actually IS an internet connection. Also to prevent the app from accidentally using internet data when you don't want that. It's not that difficult...

                        1. I had to switch that setting otherwise the app would not calculate a route when I had no internet connection, so no, it is not there just to prevent using internet data. And this is the reason why I talk about smarter apps
                        2. if you don't want to use internet data when there is internet connection, you can just put the phone in airplane mode. on ios there is also a setting to switch off just the data connection. or disable roaming so it is off only when abroad. there are plenty of possibilities without the need to put such an option in the MRA app which, IMHO, makes just the app more difficult to use and learn
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                        • Thomas Piechockiundefined Thomas Piechocki

                          @M-Schrijver
                          The connection is made via Bluetooth.

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                          @Thomas-Piechocki
                          If possible. Did you try it wired?
                          Normally wireless should work. But just to rule out issues, try it wired also.

                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                          • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                            @Thomas-Piechocki
                            If possible. Did you try it wired?
                            Normally wireless should work. But just to rule out issues, try it wired also.

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                            @M-Schrijver

                            Yes, of course. I tried four different USB cables, all supposedly AA-capable, but none of them really worked properly with AA, even though the vehicle system (2023) was supposed to support it. Connected via Bluetooth, I have no problems at all with AA, with the exception of MRA.

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                              Hi Im having the same issue with my newly installed Aoocci using AA. The phone works well and tracks/guides me on a route however the Aoocci C6 Pro Ive installed initially opens the map with the triangle illustrating my location, but after that the navigation doesn't work.

                              Pulling my hair out

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                              • Stephen Holmesundefined Stephen Holmes

                                Hi Im having the same issue with my newly installed Aoocci using AA. The phone works well and tracks/guides me on a route however the Aoocci C6 Pro Ive installed initially opens the map with the triangle illustrating my location, but after that the navigation doesn't work.

                                Pulling my hair out

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                                @Stephen-Holmes The developers are aware of this and I believe this issue will be resolved in the next update.

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                                • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                  @Stephen-Holmes The developers are aware of this and I believe this issue will be resolved in the next update.

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                                  @Nick-Carthew thanks for coming back so swiftly. Have you seen this in writing anywhere/how do you know? How sure are you that they are committed and any idea of timescales? Much appreciated.

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                                  • Stephen Holmesundefined Stephen Holmes

                                    @Nick-Carthew thanks for coming back so swiftly. Have you seen this in writing anywhere/how do you know? How sure are you that they are committed and any idea of timescales? Much appreciated.

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                                    @Stephen-Holmes I confirmed to be working on it 🙂
                                    I am hoping to put something in beta next week!
                                    Minor public update in ~2 weeks?

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