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  • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

    It seems to me that the main issue is that:

    • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
    • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

    The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

    In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

    • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
    • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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    @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

    It seems to me that the main issue is that:

    • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
    • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

    The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

    In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

    • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
    • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs

    @Herko-ter-Horst

    Hey, that would be my suggestion 👍

    Hey, genau das wäre auch mein Vorschlag 👍

    VG Hubert
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    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

      @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
      I've looked at your file.
      When I try to download it on mij phone (android) I run into some compatibility problems, in short trying to download the GPX file didn't work.
      Tghen I tried downloading it on my laptop. That was indeed succesfull.
      I then tried uploading it via the routelab and I choose for the option import route/track.
      That gave the following result:
      Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102623.png
      Then I started use route with the following result:
      Schermafbeelding 2024-11-27 102724.png
      An actual route with routepoints in it and a start and end Viapoint
      Zooming into the route that most of the routepoints where off the route so you would have to manualy correct all of them

      Then I went back to the routelab and oploaded the GPX file as a route with the following result:
      34208ba7-3707-4ddd-9013-35be30d2f4c0-image.png

      A totall disaster witch can't ben used in MRA. This is probably due to the fact like Con already stated that the routepoints are not in a logical order.

      Coinclusion:
      If you want to use routes from that platform the only way is upload a route track via the routelab and correct the thing manualy.
      Can be done but it takes some work.
      have fun

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      #12

      @Marinus-van-Deudekom

      Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

      War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

      IMG_9420.png

      The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

      Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

      VG Hubert
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      • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom

        Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

        War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

        IMG_9420.png

        The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

        Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

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        @Marinus-van-Deudekom

        The funny thing is that this file via WhatsApp as an attached file then does not lead to this error by clicking and the file is loaded in MRA as a route track.

        Das komische ist das diese Datei über WhatsApp als ein angehängte Datei dann per Klick nicht zu diesem Fehler führt und die Datei in MRA als Route-Track geladen wird.

        IMG_9421.png

        IMG_9423.png

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        • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom

          Was that also the error message with you in the option to load the file into the MRA by clicking?

          War das auch die Fehlermeldung bei dir in der Option die Datei per Klick in die MRA zu laden ?

          IMG_9420.png

          The question is what exactly causes this error message... what doesn't work in the MRA ⁉️

          Die Frage ist was genau verursacht diese Fehlermeldung… was geht da in der MRA gerade mal nicht ⁉️

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          #14

          @Hubert-Thoring no error message at all. In the phone or just kept hanging

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          • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

            It seems to me that the main issue is that:

            • the GPX does not actually contain a route (in the technical sense), but it does contain a list (in alphabetical order?) of waypoints
            • when importing the file as a route, MRA tries to create a route from the list of waypoints anyway, which gives a nonsensical result

            The GPX does contain a track, that can be imported as a route-track in MRA and then used as a route. This is existing functionality and can be used as a "work-around", but it loses/ignores the waypoints present in the file.

            In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

            • warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option
            • create a route from the track directly and, optionally, import the waypoints as POIs
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            @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

            In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

            warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option

            If there is no route (no waypoints) in a gpx file, MRA will not import it. The fact that there are actually waypoints in the file means that it is generated from a route. I have seen this very often. The waypoints are fine, just in the wrong order. Together with the track underneath it is usually not hard to reorder the waypoints manually in the left collumn. This way you do not lose any waypoint info.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

              @Herko-ter-Horst said in GPX Format - Übernahme als Route, Routen-track, Tracklog:

              In my opinion, a more user-friendly way to handle importing such a file as a route, would be to either:

              warn the user that the file does not contain a route and prevent them from importing it as a route/point them to the "route-track" option

              If there is no route (no waypoints) in a gpx file, MRA will not import it. The fact that there are actually waypoints in the file means that it is generated from a route. I have seen this very often. The waypoints are fine, just in the wrong order. Together with the track underneath it is usually not hard to reorder the waypoints manually in the left collumn. This way you do not lose any waypoint info.

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              @Con-Hennekens :

              Das zu tun ist mir alle klar und gut bekannt aber einiges führt zur Verwirrung wenn man es nicht weiß und genau darum geht es.

              To do this is all clear and well known to me but some things lead to confusion if you don't know it and that's exactly what it's about.

              @Jörgen @Herko-ter-Horst @Marinus-van-Deudekom

              Eine Datei „Route“ mit 95 WP inkl. eines Via Start und Via Ziel und zusätzlich weitere 10 Via WP auf der Route, die man per WhatsApp erhält wird falsch durch MRA übertragen.

              Wenn Du diese Datei dir per WhatsApp schickst und dann an MRA direkt teilst ohne diese zu speichern erhältst Du nur einen Routen Track in dem die 10 WP fehlen. ⁉️

              Wenn Du die gleiche Datei zuvor auf dem Handy speicherst und in einem Explorer an MRA teilst / zuweist direkt am die MRA auch dann fehlen die 10 internen WP auf der Route da Du einen Routen Track erhältst.. obwohl es eine Route ist.

              A file "Route" with 95 WP including a Via Start and Via Destination and additionally another 10 Via WP on the route, which you receive via WhatsApp, is transmitted incorrectly by MRA.

              If you send this file to yourself via WhatsApp and then share it directly to MRA without saving it, you will only receive a route track in which the 10 WP are missing. !?️

              If you save the same file on the Handy beforehand and share / assign it to MRA in an explorer directly at the MRA, even then the 10 internal WP on the route are missing because you get a route track .. although it is a route.

              Test that the

              Testet das mal der Link zur Route

              IMG_9407.png

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              • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                @Con-Hennekens :

                Das zu tun ist mir alle klar und gut bekannt aber einiges führt zur Verwirrung wenn man es nicht weiß und genau darum geht es.

                To do this is all clear and well known to me but some things lead to confusion if you don't know it and that's exactly what it's about.

                @Jörgen @Herko-ter-Horst @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                Eine Datei „Route“ mit 95 WP inkl. eines Via Start und Via Ziel und zusätzlich weitere 10 Via WP auf der Route, die man per WhatsApp erhält wird falsch durch MRA übertragen.

                Wenn Du diese Datei dir per WhatsApp schickst und dann an MRA direkt teilst ohne diese zu speichern erhältst Du nur einen Routen Track in dem die 10 WP fehlen. ⁉️

                Wenn Du die gleiche Datei zuvor auf dem Handy speicherst und in einem Explorer an MRA teilst / zuweist direkt am die MRA auch dann fehlen die 10 internen WP auf der Route da Du einen Routen Track erhältst.. obwohl es eine Route ist.

                A file "Route" with 95 WP including a Via Start and Via Destination and additionally another 10 Via WP on the route, which you receive via WhatsApp, is transmitted incorrectly by MRA.

                If you send this file to yourself via WhatsApp and then share it directly to MRA without saving it, you will only receive a route track in which the 10 WP are missing. !?️

                If you save the same file on the Handy beforehand and share / assign it to MRA in an explorer directly at the MRA, even then the 10 internal WP on the route are missing because you get a route track .. although it is a route.

                Test that the

                Testet das mal der Link zur Route

                IMG_9407.png

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                @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                  @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                  I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                  When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                  My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                  Thank you first!!

                  Which cell phone do you have?

                  • with an iPhone / iPad under iOS then the Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90 are missing

                  Are the WP 9,18,27 ... everything Via WP stayed with you ...

                  VG 👋

                  Danke erst einmal!!

                  Welches Handy hast Du denn ?

                  • mit einem iPhone / iPad unter iOS fehlen dann die Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90

                  Sind die WP 9,18,27 … alles Via WP bei dir geblieben …

                  VG 👋

                  I always use the travel mode "the motorcycle" and never had any problems !!️

                  Ich nutze immer den Reisemodus „das Motorrad“ und hatte nie Probleme ‼️

                  IMG_9438.jpeg

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                  • Nick Carthewundefined Online
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                    #19

                    I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                    I’m using an iPhone 11

                    IMG_4284.png

                    Always willing to help if I can.
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                    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                      I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                      I’m using an iPhone 11

                      IMG_4284.png

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                      @Nick-Carthew

                      Thank you first of all 👋

                      Question about the exact procedure !!️

                      You have loaded the route to +Route in your area, then saved it via export on your mobile phone and then only sent it to yourself via WhatsApp via file.

                      Then via WhatsApp on file then by click and then shared to MRA !?️

                      Was that like that or different

                      Danke erst einmal 👋

                      Frage zum genauen Ablauf ‼️

                      Hast Du die Route nach +Route in deinem Bereich geladen, danach über Export auf deinem Handy gespeichert und dann erst per WhatsApp über Datei dir selbst geschickt.

                      Dann über WhatsApp auf Datei dann per Klick und dann an MRA geteilt ⁉️

                      War das so oder anders

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                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                        I've tested the file, send it to myself using whatsapp. Opened the link in whatsapp witch resulted in MRA opening correctly and the route exactly as the original all routepoints and the viapoint were in the route.

                        When I opened your test route I noticed that the profile used was the bike profile. I don't know if you use that a lot because the Here maps used by MRA next can't handle that profile. meaning the Here maps don't support the bike profile.
                        My advise would be not to use it anymore because it has no actuall use and sometimes creates trrouble

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                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Sorry, that's just not true.
                        The motorcycle profile works just fine and won't cause issues ever.
                        It only doesn't support the shortest routing option 🤷

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                        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                          I opened your route and then clicked +Use route. I then shared the route to myself using WhatsApp, the route opened from WhatsApp with all via points.
                          I’m using an iPhone 11

                          IMG_4284.png

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                          @Nick-Carthew

                          Could it also be that you have the wrong open one because "red" is not transmitted in GPX 1.1 ... 👋

                          Könnte es auch sein das Du die falsche geöffnete hast denn „Rot“ wird nicht im GPX 1.1 übertragen … 👋

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                          • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                            @Nick-Carthew

                            Thank you first of all 👋

                            Question about the exact procedure !!️

                            You have loaded the route to +Route in your area, then saved it via export on your mobile phone and then only sent it to yourself via WhatsApp via file.

                            Then via WhatsApp on file then by click and then shared to MRA !?️

                            Was that like that or different

                            Danke erst einmal 👋

                            Frage zum genauen Ablauf ‼️

                            Hast Du die Route nach +Route in deinem Bereich geladen, danach über Export auf deinem Handy gespeichert und dann erst per WhatsApp über Datei dir selbst geschickt.

                            Dann über WhatsApp auf Datei dann per Klick und dann an MRA geteilt ⁉️

                            War das so oder anders

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                            #23

                            @Hubert-Thoring I saved your route to my MRA library by using the +Use route button. I then opened the route in the MRA mobile app and used the download button and chose.gpx 1.1 and then I clicked the Export button and chose WhatsApp.
                            I opened WhatsApp, clicked the link and it opened as it should.

                            But I don’t know why you are using this method.
                            Just open the route then click the 3 dots top right and choose share. There is no need to use the download button and export.

                            Always willing to help if I can.
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                              @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                              Thank you first!!

                              Which cell phone do you have?

                              • with an iPhone / iPad under iOS then the Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90 are missing

                              Are the WP 9,18,27 ... everything Via WP stayed with you ...

                              VG 👋

                              Danke erst einmal!!

                              Welches Handy hast Du denn ?

                              • mit einem iPhone / iPad unter iOS fehlen dann die Via WP 9,18,27,36,45,64,63,72,81,90

                              Sind die WP 9,18,27 … alles Via WP bei dir geblieben …

                              VG 👋

                              I always use the travel mode "the motorcycle" and never had any problems !!️

                              Ich nutze immer den Reisemodus „das Motorrad“ und hatte nie Probleme ‼️

                              IMG_9438.jpeg

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                              @Hubert-Thoring Hi Hubert
                              Like stated in my signature I use an Samsung S20FE.
                              I'm allergic to Aple so I can"t help you there 🙂

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                              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                @Marinus-van-Deudekom Sorry, that's just not true.
                                The motorcycle profile works just fine and won't cause issues ever.
                                It only doesn't support the shortest routing option 🤷

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                                @Corjan-Meijerink And it doesn't support roadsigns stating a no go for motorcycles. Up till now I haven't seen any advantage of the bike profile. But surprise me always willing to learn 🙂

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                                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink And it doesn't support roadsigns stating a no go for motorcycles. Up till now I haven't seen any advantage of the bike profile. But surprise me always willing to learn 🙂

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                                  #26

                                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom, "having no advantage" is not equal to "Here can't handle that profile". That profile is introduced by Here themselves, hence it is available in the app. "Having no advantage" is only true, as far as you know it. I agree that the advantage seems to be very limited, but for me even just the helmet icon is an advantage in itself, indicating for which purpose a route was designed.

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                    Except for not having shortest route option, there aren't disadvantages.
                                    Advantages are better ETA calculation and maneuvers that make sense for bikes.

                                    Motorcycle mode:
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                                    Car mode:
                                    8a85aaca-3e0e-492a-95cc-353604baa3fa-image.png

                                    In general motorcycle mode will allow more sharp turns as your turn radius is significantly less than for cars. Besides that roads disallowed only for cars can also be allowed but that information is quite often not as accurate and treated just as for cars 😉

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                                    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                      @Hubert-Thoring I saved your route to my MRA library by using the +Use route button. I then opened the route in the MRA mobile app and used the download button and chose.gpx 1.1 and then I clicked the Export button and chose WhatsApp.
                                      I opened WhatsApp, clicked the link and it opened as it should.

                                      But I don’t know why you are using this method.
                                      Just open the route then click the 3 dots top right and choose share. There is no need to use the download button and export.

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                                      @Nick-Carthew, @Marinus-van-Deudekom @Con-Hennekens

                                      Hello everyone,
                                      Thanks again for your cooperation, for clarification, I think we are still talking/writing at cross-purposes.

                                      The respective test was not carried out exactly 1:1 either, because friends in the test at least with the iPhone iOS / iPad iOS encountered these two errors in exactly the same way.

                                      Test:

                                      • 1.) WhatsApp, share the file received here with a click to MRA
                                      • 2.) Share the file from the phone storage with a click to MRA

                                      I would like to show the malfunction of these two already shown ways of transferring files with a route that has several Via WPs. Because during the transfer, a route track is always created in which the 10 Via WPs mentioned are missing even though it is one route and that is the error in each case.

                                      I am aware of the many other internal MRA options, but the beta is about possible errors or malfunctions, so I ask that you test exactly what I will write down step by step in the next post.

                                      Thank you very much for that.

                                      Hallo an alle,
                                      Danke noch einmal für die Zusammenarbeit, zur Erklärung, ich glaube wir reden / schreiben teilweise noch aneinander vorbei.

                                      Auch der jeweilige Test wurde nicht ganz so 1:1 durchgeführt, weil bei Freunden im Test zumindest mit dem iPhone iOS / iPad iOS diese zwei Fehler genau so aufgetreten sind.

                                      Test:

                                      • 1.) WhatsApp, hier erhaltene Datei per Klick teilen an MRA
                                      • 2.) Datei vom Handy Speicher per Klick teilen an MRA

                                      Ich möchte grundsätzlich die Fehlfunktion dieser zwei schon aufgezeigten Wege zur Dateiübertragung mit einer Route aufzeigen die mehreren Via WP hat. Denn daraus wird bei der Übertragung jeweils dann immer ein Routen-Track in der die besagten 10 Via WP fehlen obwohl es eine Route ist und das ist jeweils der Fehler.

                                      Die vielen MRA internen anderen Möglichkeiten sind mir bekannt aber im Beta geht es um mögliche Fehler- oder Fehlfunktionen, also bitte ich darum genau das zu testen was ich im nächsten Beitrag noch einmal Schritt für Schritt aufschreibe.

                                      Vielen Dank schon einmal dafür.

                                      VG Hubert
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                                      • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                        @Nick-Carthew, @Marinus-van-Deudekom @Con-Hennekens

                                        Hello everyone,
                                        Thanks again for your cooperation, for clarification, I think we are still talking/writing at cross-purposes.

                                        The respective test was not carried out exactly 1:1 either, because friends in the test at least with the iPhone iOS / iPad iOS encountered these two errors in exactly the same way.

                                        Test:

                                        • 1.) WhatsApp, share the file received here with a click to MRA
                                        • 2.) Share the file from the phone storage with a click to MRA

                                        I would like to show the malfunction of these two already shown ways of transferring files with a route that has several Via WPs. Because during the transfer, a route track is always created in which the 10 Via WPs mentioned are missing even though it is one route and that is the error in each case.

                                        I am aware of the many other internal MRA options, but the beta is about possible errors or malfunctions, so I ask that you test exactly what I will write down step by step in the next post.

                                        Thank you very much for that.

                                        Hallo an alle,
                                        Danke noch einmal für die Zusammenarbeit, zur Erklärung, ich glaube wir reden / schreiben teilweise noch aneinander vorbei.

                                        Auch der jeweilige Test wurde nicht ganz so 1:1 durchgeführt, weil bei Freunden im Test zumindest mit dem iPhone iOS / iPad iOS diese zwei Fehler genau so aufgetreten sind.

                                        Test:

                                        • 1.) WhatsApp, hier erhaltene Datei per Klick teilen an MRA
                                        • 2.) Datei vom Handy Speicher per Klick teilen an MRA

                                        Ich möchte grundsätzlich die Fehlfunktion dieser zwei schon aufgezeigten Wege zur Dateiübertragung mit einer Route aufzeigen die mehreren Via WP hat. Denn daraus wird bei der Übertragung jeweils dann immer ein Routen-Track in der die besagten 10 Via WP fehlen obwohl es eine Route ist und das ist jeweils der Fehler.

                                        Die vielen MRA internen anderen Möglichkeiten sind mir bekannt aber im Beta geht es um mögliche Fehler- oder Fehlfunktionen, also bitte ich darum genau das zu testen was ich im nächsten Beitrag noch einmal Schritt für Schritt aufschreibe.

                                        Vielen Dank schon einmal dafür.

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                                        wrote on last edited by Hubert Thoring
                                        #29

                                        Test: WhatsApp
                                        To explain, there are many bikers who don't have an MRA yet but have good routes, which are often sent to friends via WhatsApp. Now to the problem, when sharing directly from WhatsApp to the MRA, the error occurs and a good route with, for example, some important Via WPs becomes a route track in which these important Via WPs are missing.

                                        To test / show this, I created this route with 10 additional Via WPs.

                                        Please proceed exactly as follows when testing:

                                        Preparation for the test:
                                        1.) Please only carry out the test on your mobile phone
                                        2.) Please add the route = Link to route to your own library using +Route (use).
                                        2.) Please download the route from the MRA in 1.1 GPX format and then send it to your own WhatsApp address.

                                        Perform test:
                                        3.) Search for the received route in WhatsApp
                                        4.) Click to share this file with the route to MRA
                                        5.) The MRA opens with a route? or route track?

                                        Info: This is how it is for me - The MRA opens with a route track even though the file was once a route, the 10 Via hands are missing.

                                        5.) Please save in MRA now.

                                        You probably have two files with the same name but different content under routes, but the 10 Via WP are missing in one of them.

                                        I had Via WP at 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 shown with a red hand. Red is not transferred in the GPX but the Via points should be there.

                                        How is your test now????

                                        In my opinion, this is a mistake, at least in an iOS mobile application.

                                        Test: WhatsApp
                                        Zur Erklärung, es gibt viele Biker die noch keine MRA haben aber dafür gute Routen, diese werden dann oft mit der WhatsApp an Freunde geschickt. Jetzt zum Problem, beim direkten teilen aus der WhatsApp an die MRA tritt dann der Fehler auf und aus einer guten Route mit zum Beispiel einigen wichtigen Via WP wird ein Routen-Track in dem diese wichtigen Via WP fehlen.

                                        Um dieses zu testen / zu zeigen habe ich diese Route mit 10 zusätzlichen Via WP erstellt.

                                        Bitte beim Test genau so vorgehen:

                                        Vorbereitung zum Test:
                                        1.) Bitte Test nur am Handy durchführen
                                        2.) Bitte die Route = Link zur Route per +Route (benutzen) in die eigene Bibliothek übernehmen.
                                        2.) Bitte die Route aus der MRA per Herunterladen im 1.1 GPX Format laden und dann bitte an deine eigene WhatsApp Adresse schicken.

                                        Test durchführen:
                                        3.) Erhaltene Route in WhatsApp suchen
                                        4.) Diese Datei mit der Route jetzt per Klick an MRA teilen
                                        5.) Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Route ? oder Routen-Track ?

                                        Info bei mir ist es so - Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Routen-Track obwohl die Datei mal eine Route war, es fehlen die 10 Via Hände.

                                        5.) Bitte jetzt in MRA speichern.

                                        Jetzt hast Du wahrscheinlich zwei Dateien mit gleichem Namen aber unterschiedlichem Inhalt unter Routen liegen, in der einen fehlen aber die 10 Via WP.

                                        Ich hatte Via WP bei 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 mit roter Hand dargestellt. Rot wird in der GPX nicht übertragen aber die Via Punkte sollten vorhanden sein.

                                        Wie ist das bei eurem Test jetzt ????

                                        Aus meiner Sicht ist das ein Fehler, zumindest bei einer iOS Handy Anwendung.

                                        VG Hubert
                                        Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                                        iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                                        ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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                                        • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                          Test: WhatsApp
                                          To explain, there are many bikers who don't have an MRA yet but have good routes, which are often sent to friends via WhatsApp. Now to the problem, when sharing directly from WhatsApp to the MRA, the error occurs and a good route with, for example, some important Via WPs becomes a route track in which these important Via WPs are missing.

                                          To test / show this, I created this route with 10 additional Via WPs.

                                          Please proceed exactly as follows when testing:

                                          Preparation for the test:
                                          1.) Please only carry out the test on your mobile phone
                                          2.) Please add the route = Link to route to your own library using +Route (use).
                                          2.) Please download the route from the MRA in 1.1 GPX format and then send it to your own WhatsApp address.

                                          Perform test:
                                          3.) Search for the received route in WhatsApp
                                          4.) Click to share this file with the route to MRA
                                          5.) The MRA opens with a route? or route track?

                                          Info: This is how it is for me - The MRA opens with a route track even though the file was once a route, the 10 Via hands are missing.

                                          5.) Please save in MRA now.

                                          You probably have two files with the same name but different content under routes, but the 10 Via WP are missing in one of them.

                                          I had Via WP at 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 shown with a red hand. Red is not transferred in the GPX but the Via points should be there.

                                          How is your test now????

                                          In my opinion, this is a mistake, at least in an iOS mobile application.

                                          Test: WhatsApp
                                          Zur Erklärung, es gibt viele Biker die noch keine MRA haben aber dafür gute Routen, diese werden dann oft mit der WhatsApp an Freunde geschickt. Jetzt zum Problem, beim direkten teilen aus der WhatsApp an die MRA tritt dann der Fehler auf und aus einer guten Route mit zum Beispiel einigen wichtigen Via WP wird ein Routen-Track in dem diese wichtigen Via WP fehlen.

                                          Um dieses zu testen / zu zeigen habe ich diese Route mit 10 zusätzlichen Via WP erstellt.

                                          Bitte beim Test genau so vorgehen:

                                          Vorbereitung zum Test:
                                          1.) Bitte Test nur am Handy durchführen
                                          2.) Bitte die Route = Link zur Route per +Route (benutzen) in die eigene Bibliothek übernehmen.
                                          2.) Bitte die Route aus der MRA per Herunterladen im 1.1 GPX Format laden und dann bitte an deine eigene WhatsApp Adresse schicken.

                                          Test durchführen:
                                          3.) Erhaltene Route in WhatsApp suchen
                                          4.) Diese Datei mit der Route jetzt per Klick an MRA teilen
                                          5.) Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Route ? oder Routen-Track ?

                                          Info bei mir ist es so - Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Routen-Track obwohl die Datei mal eine Route war, es fehlen die 10 Via Hände.

                                          5.) Bitte jetzt in MRA speichern.

                                          Jetzt hast Du wahrscheinlich zwei Dateien mit gleichem Namen aber unterschiedlichem Inhalt unter Routen liegen, in der einen fehlen aber die 10 Via WP.

                                          Ich hatte Via WP bei 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 mit roter Hand dargestellt. Rot wird in der GPX nicht übertragen aber die Via Punkte sollten vorhanden sein.

                                          Wie ist das bei eurem Test jetzt ????

                                          Aus meiner Sicht ist das ein Fehler, zumindest bei einer iOS Handy Anwendung.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          Test: Share route as a file to MRA

                                          Please proceed exactly as follows when testing:

                                          Preparation for the test:

                                          1.) Please only carry out the test on your mobile phone

                                          1.1.) Optional if you haven't already done so - Please add the route = Link to route to your own library using +Route (use).

                                          2.) Please download the route from the MRA in 1.1 GPX format and then save it on your mobile phone.

                                          Carry out the test:

                                          3.) Search for the saved route on your mobile phone

                                          4.) Now share this file with the route to MRA with a click

                                          5.) The MRA opens with a route? or route track?

                                          Info: For me it's like this - The MRA opens with a route track even though the file was once a route, the 10 via hands are missing.

                                          5.) Please save in MRA now.

                                          You probably have another file with the same name under routes, but the new one is missing the 10 Via WPs.

                                          I had Via WPs at 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 shown with a red hand. Red is not transferred in the GPX but the Via points should be there.

                                          Test: Route als Datei nach MRA teilen

                                          Bitte beim Test genau so vorgehen:

                                          Vorbereitung zum Test:
                                          1.) Bitte Test nur am Handy durchführen
                                          1.1.) Optional wenn nicht schon geschehen - Bitte die Route = Link zur Route per +Route (benutzen) in die eigene Bibliothek übernehmen.
                                          2.) Bitte die Route aus der MRA per Herunterladen im 1.1 GPX Format laden und dann bitte auf dem Handy speichern.

                                          Test durchführen:
                                          3.) Die gespeicherte Route auf dem Handy suchen
                                          4.) Diese Datei mit der Route jetzt per Klick an MRA teilen
                                          5.) Die MRA öffnet sich mit einer Route ? oder Routen-Track ?

                                          Info bei mir ist es so - Die MRA öffnet sich mit einem Routen-Track obwohl die Datei mal eine Route war, es fehlen die 10 Via Hände.

                                          5.) Bitte jetzt in MRA speichern.

                                          Jetzt hast Du wahrscheinlich eine weitere Datei mit gleichem Namen unter Routen liegen, in der neuen fehlen aber auch wieder die 10 Via WP.

                                          Ich hatte Via WP bei 9, 18,27,36,45,54,63,72,81,90 mit roter Hand dargestellt. Rot wird in der GPX nicht übertragen aber die Via Punkte sollten vorhanden sein.

                                          Wie ist das bei eurem Test jetzt ????

                                          Aus meiner Sicht ist das auch ein Fehler, zumindest bei einer iOS Handy Anwendung.

                                          VG Hubert
                                          Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                                          iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                                          ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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