What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?
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All the tools are already available in MRA but how they works is a bit odd. That's why my prefered choice isn't possible.
This option could have a better use it should be used now.If enabled like in the screenshot. The route should start at current position and navigate you to the nearest upcoming waypoint. And if possible just follow the original route.
I think this what most people want and what @Thomas-Scharrer is looking for.
If disabled. You must go the startpoint of the route.
And offcourse. What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.If you are halfway your route, the app already shows your position. You just have to zoom out a bit to see the closest waypoint. Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill.
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I don't. I could be easier. It must be easier.
Less user input is always better. Software should be more "intelligent". I told it more than once before. Other software prove this is possible. -
All the tools are already available in MRA but how they works is a bit odd. That's why my prefered choice isn't possible.
This option could have a better use it should be used now.If enabled like in the screenshot. The route should start at current position and navigate you to the nearest upcoming waypoint. And if possible just follow the original route.
I think this what most people want and what @Thomas-Scharrer is looking for.
If disabled. You must go the startpoint of the route.
And offcourse. What already mentioned pressing a waypoint of your choice.
I think this one is too complex for a quick restart. Because you need to scroll along the route to search for the waypoint of choice.@M-Schrijver
What is shown in your screenshot is very interesting but unfortunately I cannot find this function.I agree that the whole system with skipping waypoints manually by pressing them etc is no problem in a car but that is exactly my problem on motor bike because I cannot operate the phone all the time and that makes this somewhat more difficult but not impossible of course because you can always stop to do it quickly.
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Exact. You prove my point.
You mus recognize the "start" button. Because it is there everytime.
Slide the black menu upwards and you will see more options.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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Exact. You prove my point.
You mus recognize the "start" button. Because it is there everytime.
Slide the black menu upwards and you will see more options.@M-Schrijver
Thanks a lot I got it now
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@M-Schrijver
Thanks a lot I got it now@M-Schrijver
Have tried this now and I can see the the functions or navigation options in the menu below the start button are not saved permanently so you need enable/ disable them every time..... thats also good to know, not just to to press start but first choose the options you want each time -
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Have tried this now and I can see the the functions or navigation options in the menu below the start button are not saved permanently so you need enable/ disable them every time..... thats also good to know, not just to to press start but first choose the options you want each time@Thomas-Scharrer the options are the ones you activated saving the route. Calculating from this point is default on. So I think there’s no need to make this menu bigger by default
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@Thomas-Scharrer that has been my experience as well. You will have to manually delete the waypoints prior. It can be done one by one, or if you know the next waypoint, long press it, say yes, and it will start where you are.
@GT-JWR Hello, does anyone know if this functionality exists in the CarPlay version of the Navigation app? Is it possible to find the waypoint you wish to begin with and long press it (or equivalent) to begin a route in the middle? Thanks.
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@GT-JWR Hello, does anyone know if this functionality exists in the CarPlay version of the Navigation app? Is it possible to find the waypoint you wish to begin with and long press it (or equivalent) to begin a route in the middle? Thanks.
@Alan-Bowen if it is in CarPlay, I haven't been able to find it/make it work...I do it from the app.
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No it is not available. Some improvements are still needed
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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No it is not available. Some improvements are still needed
@M-Schrijver correct!
Things like this are not very trivial for CarPlay / Android Auto -
Not very trivial?
The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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Not very trivial?
The question in the first post is very trivial for AA and ACP.
MRA Next asks too much during the day when riding a route. Answering these questions is not possible in AA and ACP. MRA Next should asked nothing. It only must do the thing it is build for. Guides you when riding a preplanned route.@M-Schrijver resuming navigation is possible from Android Auto, resulting in the route resuming exactly from where you stopped it.
Waypoints can be skipped directly from Android Auto one by one.
Skipping a lot of waypoints in one go is only possible directly from your phone. In the future that will be possible from Android Auto too
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I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.
When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.
I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.
When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.
I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.
@M-Schrijver, No single device does mind reading like you seem to want. I Personally would hate it if my Navigation chose the WP to start start a route, only based on it accidentally being closest. Don't blame the app for your problem of having a crippled AA/CP without touchscreen. If you want ALL functions of the app, just use a smartphone.
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You call it crippled. I call it the future.
I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.This is also my goal.
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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You call it crippled. I call it the future.
I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.This is also my goal.
@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.
On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible
). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ CAT S52 + MRA app -
@GT-JWR, you are welcome to substantiate your downvote on my previous message
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@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.
On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible
). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...@Con-Hennekens
I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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@Con-Hennekens
I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.
@M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:
A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.
This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.
I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ CAT S52 + MRA app
