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  • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

    @Herko-ter-Horst said in Skipping waypoint button.:

    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I'm not sure of the relevance of this to the discussion at hand. The track is not used for navigation, just for display purposes. If you miss one or more waypoints, you'll still need to (manually?) skip them, right? And also: it has nothing to do with MRA Navigation (Next).

    I largely agree that this discussion is not really relevant for NEXT, although at the same time it is very relevant πŸ™‚

    What I mean is that as a user, I want NEXT to display a coherent, consistent and correct (whatever correct may be) behaviour when guiding me over a route.

    And I can think of many user oriented "features" that this behaviour should include:

    • warn me when I approach a speed trap
    • indicate road blockages and, upon my request, change the route around those
    • play a prerecorded vocal message when I am close to a specific POI
    • and so on

    To my knowledge none of these can be done only on basis of a track, or a route compatible with Garmin or TomTom.

    and as a user (forget for a minute that I am a computer addict) I don't care as long as NEXT delivers on all this.

    It is up to MRA to decide the technical solutions for all this and If they are able to provide such technical solutions then the Garmin-TomTom-track-route discussion will be over because the MRA eco system will provide a much better service, that can't be moved to other devices.

    This, of course, only if Corjan starts typing faster πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

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    @Drabslab said in Skipping waypoint button.:

    "then the Garmin-TomTom-track-route discussion will be over because the MRA eco system will provide a much better service, that can't be moved to other devices"
    Spot onπŸ‘ πŸ‘
    Oh and stop teasing @Corjan-Meijerink or we'll send a fleet of Triumph Tigers to run you off the road😁 😁 😁

    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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    • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

      @Drabslab said in Skipping waypoint button.:

      "then the Garmin-TomTom-track-route discussion will be over because the MRA eco system will provide a much better service, that can't be moved to other devices"
      Spot onπŸ‘ πŸ‘
      Oh and stop teasing @Corjan-Meijerink or we'll send a fleet of Triumph Tigers to run you off the road😁 😁 😁

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      @Steve-Lynch said in Skipping waypoint button.:

      or we'll send a fleet of Triumph Tigers to run you off the road

      Be careful, Steve, be VERY careful:

      https://www.myrouteapp.com/blog/open/1168

      πŸ™ƒ

      It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        @Steve-Lynch @Drabslab That fleet of Tigers would be fun! I can handle some teasing πŸ˜‰

        Would like to share with you that I actually drove a test route with Navigation Next! πŸŽ‰

        d151510b-9585-45e6-8376-3673e3e0b376-597F14D4-EBE4-4C12-856D-2DE4C3347E5A.jpeg

        The UI is still a very early version and I’m not even sure if it will be shown like this at all for route navigation. This screen is actually used to preview a A-B route. But for testing I abused it to display my test route. Regardless, it was the only image I got to share I actually drove a route today 😏

        https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/437744

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        • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

          @Steve-Lynch said in Skipping waypoint button.:

          or we'll send a fleet of Triumph Tigers to run you off the road

          Be careful, Steve, be VERY careful:

          https://www.myrouteapp.com/blog/open/1168

          πŸ™ƒ

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          #26

          @Drabslab
          Great Blog.πŸ‘
          I toyed with the idea of having a GS and had multiple test rides on the Standard GS1250. Very planted bike at low and high speeds. And seriously, who likes chain cleaning and maintenance,😧
          In the end it came down money, and I just couldn't justify the cost difference Vs Specification between the Beemer and the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro.

          1D0E93BE-10A9-4B65-A7FD-044F22B3A70F.jpeg

          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

            @Steve-Lynch @Drabslab That fleet of Tigers would be fun! I can handle some teasing πŸ˜‰

            Would like to share with you that I actually drove a test route with Navigation Next! πŸŽ‰

            d151510b-9585-45e6-8376-3673e3e0b376-597F14D4-EBE4-4C12-856D-2DE4C3347E5A.jpeg

            The UI is still a very early version and I’m not even sure if it will be shown like this at all for route navigation. This screen is actually used to preview a A-B route. But for testing I abused it to display my test route. Regardless, it was the only image I got to share I actually drove a route today 😏

            https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/437744

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            @Corjan-Meijerink waw, first test drive, that is progress. Careful when test driving, staring at the little screen can be dangerous.

            It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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            • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

              @Drabslab
              Great Blog.πŸ‘
              I toyed with the idea of having a GS and had multiple test rides on the Standard GS1250. Very planted bike at low and high speeds. And seriously, who likes chain cleaning and maintenance,😧
              In the end it came down money, and I just couldn't justify the cost difference Vs Specification between the Beemer and the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro.

              1D0E93BE-10A9-4B65-A7FD-044F22B3A70F.jpeg

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              @Steve-Lynch cost was also the limiting factor for me. But i am very happy with ktm. The only big weakness is the battery. In the garage, i always must put a charger on as the battery runs empty in a week

              It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                @Steve-Lynch @Drabslab That fleet of Tigers would be fun! I can handle some teasing πŸ˜‰

                Would like to share with you that I actually drove a test route with Navigation Next! πŸŽ‰

                d151510b-9585-45e6-8376-3673e3e0b376-597F14D4-EBE4-4C12-856D-2DE4C3347E5A.jpeg

                The UI is still a very early version and I’m not even sure if it will be shown like this at all for route navigation. This screen is actually used to preview a A-B route. But for testing I abused it to display my test route. Regardless, it was the only image I got to share I actually drove a route today 😏

                https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/437744

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                @Corjan-Meijerink

                Looking at your screenshot, is Route Point 1 your current location or the start of the Route?
                Seems strange to plot half the route with no Route Points?
                Was that just to demonstrate that MRA Next will offer options to save time.
                As I ride purely for pleasure I have no interest in the the fastest route.
                Personally I would never leave half a route without any Route Points.

                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  Looking at your screenshot, is Route Point 1 your current location or the start of the Route?
                  Seems strange to plot half the route with no Route Points?
                  Was that just to demonstrate that MRA Next will offer options to save time.
                  As I ride purely for pleasure I have no interest in the the fastest route.
                  Personally I would never leave half a route without any Route Points.

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                  @Steve-Lynch said in Skipping waypoint button.:

                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  Looking at your screenshot, is Route Point 1 your current location or the start of the Route?
                  Seems strange to plot half the route with no Route Points?
                  Was that just to demonstrate that MRA Next will offer options to save time.
                  As I ride purely for pleasure I have no interest in the the fastest route.
                  Personally I would never leave half a route without any Route Points.

                  Hi @Steve-Lynch I’m sure Corjan won’t mind me answering for him, he’s a busy man. The route shown in the screenshot is a test route. There are many parameters to test and I expect one of them is how the routing algorithm manages long gaps between route points.
                  I know that Corjan will correct me if I’m wrong.

                  Always willing to help if I can.
                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                  Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                  Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                  TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                  • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

                    @Corjan-Meijerink

                    Looking at your screenshot, is Route Point 1 your current location or the start of the Route?
                    Seems strange to plot half the route with no Route Points?
                    Was that just to demonstrate that MRA Next will offer options to save time.
                    As I ride purely for pleasure I have no interest in the the fastest route.
                    Personally I would never leave half a route without any Route Points.

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                    @Steve-Lynch Point 1 was the start of the route. I drove to that location (a motorcycle dealer) using the A-B route calculation as test.

                    From point 1 I took the fastest route (highway) to point 2. The following waypoints were merely to shape the route to my preference πŸ˜‰

                    The alternative route displayed (grey line) is an A-B route calculation feature. As mentioned, the screen as shown in my screenshot was that of A-B route generation but slightly abused by me to display a quick route. Normally we wouldn’t show alternative routes when loading a stored route. So yeah, purely testing here but thought it would be nice to share an image πŸ˜„

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                    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                      @Steve-Lynch said in Skipping waypoint button.:

                      @Corjan-Meijerink

                      Looking at your screenshot, is Route Point 1 your current location or the start of the Route?
                      Seems strange to plot half the route with no Route Points?
                      Was that just to demonstrate that MRA Next will offer options to save time.
                      As I ride purely for pleasure I have no interest in the the fastest route.
                      Personally I would never leave half a route without any Route Points.

                      Hi @Steve-Lynch I’m sure Corjan won’t mind me answering for him, he’s a busy man. The route shown in the screenshot is a test route. There are many parameters to test and I expect one of them is how the routing algorithm manages long gaps between route points.
                      I know that Corjan will correct me if I’m wrong.

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                      @Nick-Carthew You literally just beat me to it hahah

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                      • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                        @Steve-Lynch said in Skipping waypoint button.:

                        @Corjan-Meijerink

                        Looking at your screenshot, is Route Point 1 your current location or the start of the Route?
                        Seems strange to plot half the route with no Route Points?
                        Was that just to demonstrate that MRA Next will offer options to save time.
                        As I ride purely for pleasure I have no interest in the the fastest route.
                        Personally I would never leave half a route without any Route Points.

                        Hi @Steve-Lynch I’m sure Corjan won’t mind me answering for him, he’s a busy man. The route shown in the screenshot is a test route. There are many parameters to test and I expect one of them is how the routing algorithm manages long gaps between route points.
                        I know that Corjan will correct me if I’m wrong.

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                        @Nick-Carthew @Corjan-Meijerink

                        Thank you both for the clarification.πŸ‘
                        It was the visible grey route that confused me.

                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        • Fijnieundefined Fijnie

                          Most often I ride with a group of friends, most of them use TomTom and I use the imported GPX. Which means I usually have a lot of waypoint. Even after checking the route and comparing them in the route planner there will always be points when the TomTom route uses roads that are not in the Here map and such. The auto skip waypoints function usually has no problem with that but not always. Having to skip waypoint whilst driving is far from ideal. Asking the group to stop whilst I fumble with the buttons isn't ideal either. I would like a much bigger button for skipping waypoints and a option to skip to the next point in the direction I am driving . For example when we take a shortcut and thereby skipping several waypoints. I would like to have the option to choose skip till next waypoint in driving direction. Now I have to push the tiny "next" button several times before I get to the waypoint that is coming up whilst driving and that is far from ideal.

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                            I just ordered MRA next and had also some remarks on that topic.

                            When you are follow your route made in MRA navigation and you have to take a certain way that's under construction with soft waypoint on that way(vormingspunt) , so you have to take another way.
                            In this case, the navigation still want to take this point so you have to skip this soft waypoint (vormingspunt) but it 's not possible to do this when your are driving.
                            You have to much steps to adapt this. First you have to press the "three points button" (...) afterwards you take the "skip button" following by how many waypoints you want to skip. But my phone is connected in landscape on my motorcycle and my keyboard (I can't swip it away) comes on top of the screen. If I want to skip 1 waypoint, I can write "1" without problem but I can not see the "OK" button. To do this I have to rotate my phone in portrait and than I can see the"OK button". I have to stop every time when I have this issue.

                            Is there no possibility to have a extra button for example next to the camera button. If you want to remove a waypoint, you can easely do this by just pressing this button and you can do this while your are driving.
                            If you want to delete two waypoints, then you press two times on the same button.
                            I saw that my navigation setting are "skip waypoint automatically beta -> ON but it doesn't work, I have to skip manualy.

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                            • pieter vundefined pieter v

                              I just ordered MRA next and had also some remarks on that topic.

                              When you are follow your route made in MRA navigation and you have to take a certain way that's under construction with soft waypoint on that way(vormingspunt) , so you have to take another way.
                              In this case, the navigation still want to take this point so you have to skip this soft waypoint (vormingspunt) but it 's not possible to do this when your are driving.
                              You have to much steps to adapt this. First you have to press the "three points button" (...) afterwards you take the "skip button" following by how many waypoints you want to skip. But my phone is connected in landscape on my motorcycle and my keyboard (I can't swip it away) comes on top of the screen. If I want to skip 1 waypoint, I can write "1" without problem but I can not see the "OK" button. To do this I have to rotate my phone in portrait and than I can see the"OK button". I have to stop every time when I have this issue.

                              Is there no possibility to have a extra button for example next to the camera button. If you want to remove a waypoint, you can easely do this by just pressing this button and you can do this while your are driving.
                              If you want to delete two waypoints, then you press two times on the same button.
                              I saw that my navigation setting are "skip waypoint automatically beta -> ON but it doesn't work, I have to skip manualy.

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                              @pieter-v Skipping route points will be greatly improved when MRA Navigation Next is released.

                              Always willing to help if I can.
                              Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                              MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                              Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                              Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                              TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                              • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                @pieter-v Skipping route points will be greatly improved when MRA Navigation Next is released.

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                                @Nick-Carthew Ok thx Nick

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