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  • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

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    #20

    @Corrado-Miniati-0 I have got your point, because I do planning for journeys similar.
    The system knows about the routepoint numbers and is using it for sorting the items in the list. Also the number is populated in the list item.
    May it would be possible, to get the populated number as editable. I see: manual sorting of a long list will then become quicker.

    Nothing is impossible ;-)
    In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
    In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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      #21

      "May it would be possible, to get the populated number as editable".
      This is exactly my propose to Corjan.

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      • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

        "May it would be possible, to get the populated number as editable".
        This is exactly my propose to Corjan.

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        Hi @Corrado-Miniati-0 to me your method of planning a route is a bit unusual, it is not the regular way routes are planned in MRA hence why your having the pain of reordering your points
        I am not saying your method is wrong it is just not the regular way of using MRA for creating a route

        One suggestion that might ease your pain could be to type the coordinates of your points into a CSV file via a text editor or Excel
        You can then upload these points into MRA as Points of Interest (POI)
        You then start adding route (waypoints) next to each of the POI in the order you wish
        Then you can delete remove the POI's & your left with the route you want

        just a suggestion that may be a little less painful

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        • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

          Hi @Corrado-Miniati-0 to me your method of planning a route is a bit unusual, it is not the regular way routes are planned in MRA hence why your having the pain of reordering your points
          I am not saying your method is wrong it is just not the regular way of using MRA for creating a route

          One suggestion that might ease your pain could be to type the coordinates of your points into a CSV file via a text editor or Excel
          You can then upload these points into MRA as Points of Interest (POI)
          You then start adding route (waypoints) next to each of the POI in the order you wish
          Then you can delete remove the POI's & your left with the route you want

          just a suggestion that may be a little less painful

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          @Brian-McG that is exactly, what I wanted to type, but I was stuck in a big portion if French fries with Dutch mayonaise and homemade peanutbuttersauce. Or, as we call it in the Netherlands a "patatje oorlog" or fries at war πŸ™ˆπŸ€£

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            @Brian McG:
            It may be that my planning system is unusual, but I've always found it convenient to plan this way.
            Thanks for your suggestion, too; it's very clever, but even this way involves extra work outside of MRA, and it's probably not faster than moving waypoints from the list directly into MRA.

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            • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

              @Brian McG:
              It may be that my planning system is unusual, but I've always found it convenient to plan this way.
              Thanks for your suggestion, too; it's very clever, but even this way involves extra work outside of MRA, and it's probably not faster than moving waypoints from the list directly into MRA.

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              @Corrado-Miniati-0 sorry you do not see the advantages of the method I proposed
              I do not think it is extra work,
              currently you type in the coordinates in MRA, in the proposed method you type them in Excel & just import the csv
              so now you are in the same state as you would be with your current method

              with your method you now have to sort the order of all your points
              with the proposed method all you have to do is click next to each of the POI in the order you wish the route to be
              IMO it would be a lot faster & a lot easier than your current method, especially if you have a large number of points

              I hope you try it & see, there are other advantages to having your points captured in a POI list
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                #26

                Thanks so much for your support.
                I tried, but it doesn't work. Could you please show me how to set the coordinates in Excel and what CSV format you choose for saving?

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                  Your CSV need to be Long, Lat and a description of the POI.
                  Here's one of mine.

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                  • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                    Your CSV need to be Long, Lat and a description of the POI.
                    Here's one of mine.

                    image.png

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                    This is what the uploaded POI's look like.

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                        #30

                        I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
                        My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

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                        However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

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                        • Corrado Miniati 0undefined Corrado Miniati 0

                          I discovered that MRA doesn't display POIs from csv file if they're imported as lat-lon instead of lon-lat.
                          My Google Maps displays them as lat-lon, and in Excel I have to reverse the parameters. Why?

                          Appunti_09-13-2025_03.jpg

                          However, there is an alternative method, but it would be appreciated if MRA allowed renaming the waypoint positions.

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                          #31

                          @Corrado-Miniati-0 the easy way to understand the format is to create a map / route in MRA with some POI's
                          then save the route as a CSV
                          you can then inspect the csv & replicate the format
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                          when you create your own custom CSV to import your points, import it via the Library tab
                          you will need to zoom into >=10km to see the imported POI's

                          yes the lon-lat v lat-lon is an oddity of MRA, I dont know why, maybe it is a dutch thing 😊
                          the points will be displayed just not in the part of the world you are expecting to find them πŸ˜‚

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                            Thanks, maybe Corjan could check if the lat-lon vs lon-lat theme is a bug

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                              It definitely is not a bug πŸ™‚
                              Do I find it logical for a user perspective? No.
                              Will I change it? No. Mainly because everyone using this is now used to that.

                              I do know the origin of these things.
                              Lat / lon is preferred by humans but I don’t know why. Lon / lat is however mathematically the correct order πŸ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

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                                It definitely is not a bug πŸ™‚
                                Do I find it logical for a user perspective? No.
                                Will I change it? No. Mainly because everyone using this is now used to that.

                                I do know the origin of these things.
                                Lat / lon is preferred by humans but I don’t know why. Lon / lat is however mathematically the correct order πŸ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

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                                #34

                                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Assign a via point/waypoint number:

                                ...Lon / Lat is however mathematically the correct order πŸ™‚ Longitude representing the horizontal (x) axis and Latitude the vertical (y) axis.

                                uhh, I believe it's not 100% correct explained.

                                • The geographical length, also called longitude (international abbreviation long or LON), describes the position east or west of a defined (arbitrarily defined) north-south line, the zero meridian. It's following the vertical earth axis.
                                • The geographical latitude, also called geodetic lat or (international abbreviation Lat. or LAT), describes the position north or south of a defined line round the earth, parallel to the Earth's horizontal equator.

                                But the rest, Corjan - you may know better than me πŸ˜‰

                                Nothing is impossible ;-)
                                In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                                In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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