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  • Guzt
    Guzt
    Guzt
    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Swiss Alps? Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone. When not, you're in for a surprise when you will receive your telephone bill.

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    • Guzt Guzt

      Swiss Alps? Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone. When not, you're in for a surprise when you will receive your telephone bill.

      Rob Verhoeff
      Rob Verhoeff
      Rob Verhoeff
      Alpha tester
      wrote on last edited by
      #9

      @Guzt said in MRA and tunnels:

      Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone.

      That entirely depends on what kind of data cap you have with your provider! I don't worry at all 😉

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      • Guzt Guzt

        Swiss Alps? Don't forget to disable roaming on your telephone. When not, you're in for a surprise when you will receive your telephone bill.

        Adrian Avram
        Adrian Avram
        Adrian Avram
        wrote on last edited by
        #10

        @Guzt I had forgotten completely about this aspect ... Thank you for reminding me !!

        Best regards,
        Adrian

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        • nomko
          nomko
          nomko
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          #11

          Does offline navigation not solve this issue? Or are you even with offline navigation depending on a good/solid/working GPS connection?

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          • Guzt
            Guzt
            Guzt
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            Using off line navigation or not, always switch off roaming in Switserland. They have their own telecom rules and are not part of the EU which implicates that the EU roaming agreements don't apply for them. As soon as your telephone makes contact to a Swiss telephone service, costs kick in. To avoid this, use a Swiss eSIM .
            https://saily.com/download-esim-app/

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            • Tony 13
              Tony 13
              Tony 13
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              For the roaming you just need to check your contract. O2 does include Switzerland in roaming from the UK
              https://www.o2.co.uk/help/international-and-network/using-your-phone-abroad/roaming-in-europe-pay-monthly

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              • Guzt Guzt

                Using off line navigation or not, always switch off roaming in Switserland. They have their own telecom rules and are not part of the EU which implicates that the EU roaming agreements don't apply for them. As soon as your telephone makes contact to a Swiss telephone service, costs kick in. To avoid this, use a Swiss eSIM .
                https://saily.com/download-esim-app/

                Peter Zehentreiter
                Peter Zehentreiter
                Peter Zehentreiter
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                @Guzt However, this is only partially true. For example, Deutsche Telekom's tariffs include roaming in Switzerland and the UK.
                I can't comment on other providers.

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                • Guzt Guzt

                  Using off line navigation or not, always switch off roaming in Switserland. They have their own telecom rules and are not part of the EU which implicates that the EU roaming agreements don't apply for them. As soon as your telephone makes contact to a Swiss telephone service, costs kick in. To avoid this, use a Swiss eSIM .
                  https://saily.com/download-esim-app/

                  Rob Verhoeff
                  Rob Verhoeff
                  Rob Verhoeff
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                  #15

                  @Guzt I mentioned this before... That's not entirely true! There are Dutch providers that simply consider Switzerland an EU country. For example, with my Dutch mobile plan, I'm allowed to use 50GB per month from my Dutch data bundle in an EU country (including Switzerland). So you really need to check the terms and conditions of your provider in your own country!

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                  • Guzt
                    Guzt
                    Guzt
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                    #16

                    My provider blocks Switzerland just to avoid the possible surprise. I have to activate it or buy a data plan for it. But then, Belgian telecom is so what the most expensive in the EU.
                    So it is up to Adrian to check this with his telecom provider.

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                    • Guzt Guzt

                      My provider blocks Switzerland just to avoid the possible surprise. I have to activate it or buy a data plan for it. But then, Belgian telecom is so what the most expensive in the EU.
                      So it is up to Adrian to check this with his telecom provider.

                      Rob Verhoeff
                      Rob Verhoeff
                      Rob Verhoeff
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      @Guzt said in MRA and tunnels:

                      Belgian telecom is so what the most expensive in the EU.

                      Time to shop elsewhere 😉

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                      • nomko nomko

                        Does offline navigation not solve this issue? Or are you even with offline navigation depending on a good/solid/working GPS connection?

                        Guzzist
                        Guzzist
                        Guzzist
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @Nomko-Nomden offline navigation depends also on good GPS receive. Means: you don't need roaming/eSIM for Internet connection. But in long tunnels, you will loose GPS - and if there is an exit inside the tunnel, you need to take- MyRoute-App may will not navigate you!

                        Nothing is impossible ;-)
                        In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                        In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                        • Herman Veldhuizen
                          Herman Veldhuizen
                          Herman Veldhuizen
                          wrote on last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
                          #19

                          i drove through many tunnels in Norway today, including the 25km long Laerdals tunnel. MRA worked without a glitch inside these tunnels, no spinning, no jumping to roads above the tunnel. This is with the 5.0.3 version. I even had a shaping point inside one of the tunnels and that worked as well.

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                          • Herman Veldhuizen Herman Veldhuizen

                            i drove through many tunnels in Norway today, including the 25km long Laerdals tunnel. MRA worked without a glitch inside these tunnels, no spinning, no jumping to roads above the tunnel. This is with the 5.0.3 version. I even had a shaping point inside one of the tunnels and that worked as well.

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                            Guzzist
                            Guzzist
                            Guzzist
                            Valued contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            @Herman-Veldhuizen ...then you are lucky.
                            The reasons are:

                            • Navigation systems can also interpolate their own position from direction and speed. But that only works in straight tunnels.
                            • In some tunnels are so called beacons installed, by this navigation systems can also calculate the actual position (in GoogleMaps, this option must be activated in settings).
                            • In other tunnels there may be TunnelSat installed. This is an advanced tunnel GPS system that extends reliable satellite navigation underground, delivering accurate, real-time positioning signal.

                            It depends on the tunnel operator.

                            Nothing is impossible ;-)
                            In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                            In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                            • Guzzist Guzzist

                              @Herman-Veldhuizen ...then you are lucky.
                              The reasons are:

                              • Navigation systems can also interpolate their own position from direction and speed. But that only works in straight tunnels.
                              • In some tunnels are so called beacons installed, by this navigation systems can also calculate the actual position (in GoogleMaps, this option must be activated in settings).
                              • In other tunnels there may be TunnelSat installed. This is an advanced tunnel GPS system that extends reliable satellite navigation underground, delivering accurate, real-time positioning signal.

                              It depends on the tunnel operator.

                              Herman Veldhuizen
                              Herman Veldhuizen
                              Herman Veldhuizen
                              wrote on last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
                              #21

                              @Guzzist the fact that it worked in all tunnels made me think that HERE maybe has made an improvement (i assume a newer version of the sdk is used since I last tried it). The cursor followed the tunnel shape.
                              I will soon drive through the tunnel again in which I know MRA was struggling.
                              I dont think that I made any changes on my phone to settings to improve the gps accuracy.

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                              • Garry Davis
                                Garry Davis
                                Garry Davis
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                Never knew about the beacons in tunnels or activation in settings. Just activated mine in Google maps. Thanks for that.
                                👍🏍️👍

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                                • Herman Veldhuizen
                                  Herman Veldhuizen
                                  Herman Veldhuizen
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                                  #23

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                                  • Herman Veldhuizen Herman Veldhuizen

                                    i drove through many tunnels in Norway today, including the 25km long Laerdals tunnel. MRA worked without a glitch inside these tunnels, no spinning, no jumping to roads above the tunnel. This is with the 5.0.3 version. I even had a shaping point inside one of the tunnels and that worked as well.

                                    1000010260.jpg

                                    TomOnTour
                                    TomOnTour
                                    TomOnTour
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    @Herman-Veldhuizen
                                    I had exactly the same experience when I was in Norway last year. I also couldn't remember any problems in any oher tunnel I ever used: Neither in the alps, nor in the german tunnels like Elbtunnel.

                                    Greetings
                                    Thomas

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