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  • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

    @ginogino on a 200/250 km route 40 waypoints could be enigheid deoending on the surroundings, but there’s more to it then Just the Numbers of shapingpoints. If you share the route like @Corjan-Meijerink asjed maybe you could also add hij that you’ve Made this route, with witch map etc

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    @Marinus-van-Deudekom

    The route link is in the first post, I did not deviate from the route, I only had to restart navigation a third of the way along the route because I stopped at a point where there was no phone signal and when I restarted the navigation did not work, I walked down the mountain to where I found phone signal and started navigation from there and from there I never deviated from the route and I never received any warnings that I had missed waypoints.

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      @Marinus-van-Deudekom

      The route link is in the first post, I did not deviate from the route, I only had to restart navigation a third of the way along the route because I stopped at a point where there was no phone signal and when I restarted the navigation did not work, I walked down the mountain to where I found phone signal and started navigation from there and from there I never deviated from the route and I never received any warnings that I had missed waypoints.

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      @ginogino did you have the route on your phone because normale when loding the internet connection the app would go to offline navigation automaticly. The link is niet in the first post

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @ginogino did you have the route on your phone because normale when loding the internet connection the app would go to offline navigation automaticly. The link is niet in the first post

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        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in How to avoid shortcuts:

        @ginogino did you have the route on your phone because normale when loding the internet connection the app would go to offline navigation automaticly. The link is niet in the first post

        The link is here:

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        • ginoginoundefined ginogino

          In the tour I did yesterday, the app kept wanting me to do unplanned shortcuts in myroute web, as in this case:

          scorciatoie.jpg

          In the picture you can see how I designed the route, when I was there the app would tell me to take the route in red and it did this in several countries, often wanting me to go through very narrow or even unpaved roads, if the diversions is short on the display you understand not to take that diversions, but if the diversions is long you don't understand on the fly not to take that diversions.

          There is some option in the app that prevents you from taking these shortcuts but to stick to the route that you see in myroute web.

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          @ginogino I've looked at your route and a couple of things came to my attention
          The route is made quit fairly good. Good enough that is. A couple of shapingspoints were OFF route but as long as you using the Navigation Next app there's no problem. That might be diferent if you were using a dedicated device like a Garmin XT. In those cases the route would be messed up because of the Garmin way of calculation the route.
          I saw that you used the Motorbike profile. That doesn't have to be a problem but. In that profile you can't select route optimalisation and select shortest or fastest way. Maybe somewhere in your settings the use of shortest was selected and therefore using all of those small roads.
          Other then that your route looks nice and if it would be in my naberhood I would certainly use it
          The RouteXperts all use the car profile to make routes and there's almost no diference between the bike and car profile other then that I decribed. Maybe using the car profile will end your problem

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          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

            @ginogino I've looked at your route and a couple of things came to my attention
            The route is made quit fairly good. Good enough that is. A couple of shapingspoints were OFF route but as long as you using the Navigation Next app there's no problem. That might be diferent if you were using a dedicated device like a Garmin XT. In those cases the route would be messed up because of the Garmin way of calculation the route.
            I saw that you used the Motorbike profile. That doesn't have to be a problem but. In that profile you can't select route optimalisation and select shortest or fastest way. Maybe somewhere in your settings the use of shortest was selected and therefore using all of those small roads.
            Other then that your route looks nice and if it would be in my naberhood I would certainly use it
            The RouteXperts all use the car profile to make routes and there's almost no diference between the bike and car profile other then that I decribed. Maybe using the car profile will end your problem

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            @Marinus-van-Deudekom

            I have seen, however, that even with the motorbike profile it is possible to select ‘fast route’ and ‘short route’ and in my case I had selected ‘fast route’, to navigate I am using the myroute app with android auto, next time I will try the ‘auto’ profile.

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              This really has nothing to do with car / bike profile.
              I'd just pay attention to any audible or visual warning that you skipped a waypoint, that is only sensible explanation.

              On recalculations the newest fastest route is always calculated (obviously taking your waypoints into consideration). Might be another reason why some part was missed.

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                @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                The route link is in the first post, I did not deviate from the route, I only had to restart navigation a third of the way along the route because I stopped at a point where there was no phone signal and when I restarted the navigation did not work, I walked down the mountain to where I found phone signal and started navigation from there and from there I never deviated from the route and I never received any warnings that I had missed waypoints.

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                @ginogino

                I may have found a way to display shortcuts in the design phase, although I don't understand why they show up.
                Comparing the route plotted with the Here maps (which if I'm not mistaken are the ones you use for navigation with the myroute app) with the Tom Tom maps, you see the shortcuts as in this case:

                scorciatoie2.jpg

                by putting a shaping point on the route you should be able to avoid the unsolicited diversions, but anyway because with Tom Tom you can see them.

                This is the route in question:

                link text

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                • ginoginoundefined ginogino

                  @ginogino

                  I may have found a way to display shortcuts in the design phase, although I don't understand why they show up.
                  Comparing the route plotted with the Here maps (which if I'm not mistaken are the ones you use for navigation with the myroute app) with the Tom Tom maps, you see the shortcuts as in this case:

                  scorciatoie2.jpg

                  by putting a shaping point on the route you should be able to avoid the unsolicited diversions, but anyway because with Tom Tom you can see them.

                  This is the route in question:

                  link text

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                  @ginogino said in How to avoid shortcuts:

                  @ginogino

                  I may have found a way to display shortcuts in the design phase, although I don't understand why they show up.
                  Comparing the route plotted with the Here maps (which if I'm not mistaken are the ones you use for navigation with the myroute app) with the Tom Tom maps, you see the shortcuts as in this case:

                  scorciatoie2.jpg

                  by putting a shaping point on the route you should be able to avoid the unsolicited diversions, but anyway because with Tom Tom you can see them.

                  This is the route in question:

                  link text

                  This was tough learning for me, too. Especially in Italy, Navigation would lead me into smallest backyards and even narrow steeps. It´s not fault of MRA, but of Here.

                  Lesson lerned: stay on the main roads, if you did not place a via or shaping point anywhere near where Navigation wants you to leave that road. Or if you´re very eager for some adventures. Once I got so stuck, I had to rotate the bike on the sidestand. Thank god I had learned that technique already by then, because the bike was fully loaded and geared up for a two weeks trip.^^

                  This is what can happen to you if you want to be adventurous... 🙂

                  2025-03-24 18_07_52-IMG_20220908_090901.jpg

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                  • ginoginoundefined ginogino

                    @ginogino

                    I may have found a way to display shortcuts in the design phase, although I don't understand why they show up.
                    Comparing the route plotted with the Here maps (which if I'm not mistaken are the ones you use for navigation with the myroute app) with the Tom Tom maps, you see the shortcuts as in this case:

                    scorciatoie2.jpg

                    by putting a shaping point on the route you should be able to avoid the unsolicited diversions, but anyway because with Tom Tom you can see them.

                    This is the route in question:

                    link text

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                    @ginogino after building a route you can hit the Compare function and also use the 3D street view, and after that you can decide if you take the shortcut or not (It might not be paved)

                    Best regards,
                    Adrian

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                    • ginoginoundefined ginogino

                      @ginogino

                      I may have found a way to display shortcuts in the design phase, although I don't understand why they show up.
                      Comparing the route plotted with the Here maps (which if I'm not mistaken are the ones you use for navigation with the myroute app) with the Tom Tom maps, you see the shortcuts as in this case:

                      scorciatoie2.jpg

                      by putting a shaping point on the route you should be able to avoid the unsolicited diversions, but anyway because with Tom Tom you can see them.

                      This is the route in question:

                      link text

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                      @ginogino you can see that the shortcut is not paved.

                      2025-03-25_16h12_02.png

                      Best regards,
                      Adrian

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