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  • Garry Davisundefined Garry Davis

    @Wallace-Shackleton If I'm not wrong, when you've named your waypoint, and you need to move it slightly, when the new name comes up, just press cancel, and your original name stays the same as you put it in, in the first place, well mine does anyway.

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    @Garry-Davis you are right ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Nothing is impossible ;-)
    In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
    In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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      This only happend when you have the option enabled. I've diabled that option. Then it will be renamed anyway.

      Screenshot 2025-03-09 11.32.52.png
      You can find it under "Toolkit" almost at the bottom of the list.

      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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      • Wallace Shackletonundefined Wallace Shackleton

        One suggestion would be to disable the automatic renaming of a waypoint if it is moved.
        It is annoying to give a waypoint a special name only to have it automatically renamed if that waypoint is moved, say to slightly fine tune a route.
        EG. If I create a names waypoint such as "Cumnock" moving it to fine tune a route changes it to "22 Mossmark, Cumnock, KA18 4NF, United Kingdom."

        As an aside. One thing that I will have to get better at is not allowing waypoints with names like "22 Mossmark, Cumnock, KA18 4NF, United Kingdom" as it comes out in its entirety when the Garmin XT announces it as part of a route.

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        @Wallace-Shackleton, Usually the name reflects an address. It is quite logical that the address changes along with the movement of the waypoint. However when you chose to give the waypoint a "sensible" name manually, it would be great if that name could be kept despite any movement.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          That would be nice, indeed

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

            This only happend when you have the option enabled. I've diabled that option. Then it will be renamed anyway.

            Screenshot 2025-03-09 11.32.52.png
            You can find it under "Toolkit" almost at the bottom of the list.

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            Removing the tick against "Ask for waypoint Name" does work but it only does that. Moving the waypoint will automatically rename it.

            Using Cancel is the best solution thanks for that but it is counter intuitive.
            Who would ever think of selecting Cancel to retain the original waypoint name?

            Thanks for the info but this needs to be addressed by the developers.

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            • Wallace Shackletonundefined Wallace Shackleton

              Removing the tick against "Ask for waypoint Name" does work but it only does that. Moving the waypoint will automatically rename it.

              Using Cancel is the best solution thanks for that but it is counter intuitive.
              Who would ever think of selecting Cancel to retain the original waypoint name?

              Thanks for the info but this needs to be addressed by the developers.

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              RetiredWingMan
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              @Wallace-Shackleton why? It works exactly as intended and the work around is simple.

              2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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              • Garry Davisundefined Garry Davis

                @Wallace-Shackleton If I'm not wrong, when you've named your waypoint, and you need to move it slightly, when the new name comes up, just press cancel, and your original name stays the same as you put it in, in the first place, well mine does anyway.

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                @Garry-Davis said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                @Wallace-Shackleton If I'm not wrong, when you've named your waypoint, and you need to move it slightly, when the new name comes up, just press cancel, and your original name stays the same as you put it in, in the first place, well mine does anyway.

                This does the trick! Just move the waypoint to a new location and instead of pressing Accept, press Cancel! The waypoint is moved to its new location and you keep the name/description you gave that waypoint.

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                • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                  @Wallace-Shackleton why? It works exactly as intended and the work around is simple.

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                  @RetiredWingMan said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                  why? It works exactly as intended and the work around is simple.

                  Because with that workaround ANY movement triggers an extra click. I tend to move waypoints A LOT to find optimum placement. And only a few of the waypoints are interesting enough for a changed name. Having to click on cancel or accept is NOT what I would want. I'd rather copy the name before moving a waypoint to be able to paste it back after moving it, for the few waypoints for which this is a thing....

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @RetiredWingMan said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                    why? It works exactly as intended and the work around is simple.

                    Because with that workaround ANY movement triggers an extra click. I tend to move waypoints A LOT to find optimum placement. And only a few of the waypoints are interesting enough for a changed name. Having to click on cancel or accept is NOT what I would want. I'd rather copy the name before moving a waypoint to be able to paste it back after moving it, for the few waypoints for which this is a thing....

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                    RouteXperts
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                    @Con-Hennekens yes I agrรฉe. For the most shapingpoints itโ€™s no issue at all and for The viapoints I tend to copy the name before moving it

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                    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                      @Con-Hennekens yes I agrรฉe. For the most shapingpoints itโ€™s no issue at all and for The viapoints I tend to copy the name before moving it

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                      I'd agree with you on that count, I used "road" on more than one occasion while editing a 300 mile route that I'm going to post sometime soon.

                      MRA is a good program but it has some insider tricks that seldom show up on the webinars and tips like those mentioned above deserve better recognition.

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Wallace-Shackleton, Usually the name reflects an address. It is quite logical that the address changes along with the movement of the waypoint. However when you chose to give the waypoint a "sensible" name manually, it would be great if that name could be kept despite any movement.

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                        @Con-Hennekens said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                        it would be great if that name could be kept despite any movement.

                        100% agree. I can't imagine a use case where I want a name automatically changed once I've edited it.

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                        • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                          @Con-Hennekens said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                          it would be great if that name could be kept despite any movement.

                          100% agree. I can't imagine a use case where I want a name automatically changed once I've edited it.

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                          @Martin-Wilcke said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                          ...I can't imagine a use case where I want a name automatically changed once I've edited it.

                          Use case is: if you set a Waypoint in first planning (to estimate distance) in the middle of a village/city. Later, if you know exactly the restaurant/camping/hotel - if you move the Waypoint - it's good to get automatically the new address in name. If not needed, simply click on button [cancel].

                          I don't understand the long discussion here ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Nothing is impossible ;-)
                          In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                          In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                          • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                            @Martin-Wilcke said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                            ...I can't imagine a use case where I want a name automatically changed once I've edited it.

                            Use case is: if you set a Waypoint in first planning (to estimate distance) in the middle of a village/city. Later, if you know exactly the restaurant/camping/hotel - if you move the Waypoint - it's good to get automatically the new address in name. If not needed, simply click on button [cancel].

                            I don't understand the long discussion here ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            @Guzzist said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                            I don't understand the long discussion here

                            The example you mentioned is a different use case: you did not change the name manually.

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                            • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                              @Martin-Wilcke said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                              ...I can't imagine a use case where I want a name automatically changed once I've edited it.

                              Use case is: if you set a Waypoint in first planning (to estimate distance) in the middle of a village/city. Later, if you know exactly the restaurant/camping/hotel - if you move the Waypoint - it's good to get automatically the new address in name. If not needed, simply click on button [cancel].

                              I don't understand the long discussion here ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              @Guzzist There are times when the actual address of the waypoint is irrelevant, there are times when the location of the waypoint itself that matters more, say to mark a turn or a point on the route.

                              To be really objective, the given address for waypoints generated by MRA are at times useless as they do not include the actual name of the Village or Town the waypoint is located in.
                              For example This waypoint was generated from a route that I am working on
                              "7 High Main Street, Ayr, KA6 7QN, United Kingdom" The town mentioned here is actually Dalmellington roughly 20 miles or 40 km away from Ayr.
                              For reference this is the lat/long of a nearby waypoint located in Dalmellington
                              55.323021, -4.401105

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                              • Wallace Shackletonundefined Wallace Shackleton

                                @Guzzist There are times when the actual address of the waypoint is irrelevant, there are times when the location of the waypoint itself that matters more, say to mark a turn or a point on the route.

                                To be really objective, the given address for waypoints generated by MRA are at times useless as they do not include the actual name of the Village or Town the waypoint is located in.
                                For example This waypoint was generated from a route that I am working on
                                "7 High Main Street, Ayr, KA6 7QN, United Kingdom" The town mentioned here is actually Dalmellington roughly 20 miles or 40 km away from Ayr.
                                For reference this is the lat/long of a nearby waypoint located in Dalmellington
                                55.323021, -4.401105

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                                @Wallace-Shackleton said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                                there are times when the location of the waypoint itself that matters more, say to mark a turn or a point on the route.

                                That's exactly my thoughts. I've never understood what an address as a route point name is good for. I prefer LAT/LON as the default name as it's the most simple, versatile and valuable information.

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                                • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                                  @Martin-Wilcke said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                                  ...I can't imagine a use case where I want a name automatically changed once I've edited it.

                                  Use case is: if you set a Waypoint in first planning (to estimate distance) in the middle of a village/city. Later, if you know exactly the restaurant/camping/hotel - if you move the Waypoint - it's good to get automatically the new address in name. If not needed, simply click on button [cancel].

                                  I don't understand the long discussion here ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  @Guzzist said in Waypoint automatic renaming when moved:

                                  I don't understand the long discussion here

                                  Me neither, but obviously for different reasons ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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